Sponsor Message:
Non Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Biden Lays Out His Thoughts On 2008  
User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1185 times:

Boy - Sen. Biden pulls no punches in his opinion of his fellow democrats.

Obama is fluff, Hillary too calibrated, and Edwards doesn't know what he's doing.

Quote:
Mr. Biden is equally skeptical---albeit in a slightly more backhanded way---about Mr. Obama. "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," he said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."



Quote:
"Are they going to turn to Hillary Clinton?" Biden asked, lowering his voice to a hush to explain why Mrs. Clinton won't win the election. "Everyone in the world knows her," he said. "Her husband has used every single legitimate tool in his behalf to lock people in, shut people down. Legitimate. And she can't break out of 30 percent for a choice for Democrats? Where do you want to be? Do you want to be in a place where 100 percent of the Democrats know you? They've looked at you for the last three years. And four out of 10 is the max you can get?"



Quote:
"I don't think John Edwards knows what the heck he is talking about," Mr. Biden said, when asked about Mr. Edwards' advocacy of the immediate withdrawal of about 40,000 American troops from Iraq. "John Edwards wants you and all the Democrats to think, 'I want us out of there,' but when you come back and you say, 'O.K., John'"---here, the word "John" became an accusatory, mocking refrain---"'what about the chaos that will ensue? Do we have any interest, John, left in the region?' Well, John will have to answer yes or no. If he says yes, what are they? What are those interests, John? How do you protect those interests, John, if you are completely withdrawn? Are you withdrawn from the region, John? Are you withdrawn from Iraq, John? In what period? So all this stuff is like so much Fluffernutter out there. So for me, what I think you have to do is have a strategic notion. And they may have it---they are just smart enough not to enunciate it."


Is he doing this to offer himself up as an alternative?

Quote:
Mr. Biden, who ran an ill-fated campaign for President in 1988, is a man who believes his time has finally come, announcing this week that he was filing papers to make his 2008 Presidential bid official. Although he admits to a tendency to "bloviate," he thinks that an aggressive advocate with rough edges might be just what the party needs right now. "Democrats nominated the perfect blow-dried candidates in 2000 and 2004," he said, "and they couldn't connect.

http://www.observer.com/20070205/200...n_Horowitz_pageone_newsstory1.html

16 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1174 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Thread starter):
Is he doing this to offer himself up as an alternative?

One word: Yes
Can he get the nod from the Democratic party: No
Talks too much, has some skeletons in his closet (but then again so does McCain)
at this time to right center for the party as a whole.

Quoting Halls120 (Thread starter):
"Democrats nominated the perfect blow-dried candidates

As did the Republicans, if GWB was a homely looking guy he wouldn't have gotten the nomination either, all candidates need to look good on television.


User currently offlineTZ757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2867 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1174 times:

All I can say is good luck to my Senator. He probably one of the more likable contenders for the position. I've met him on many occasions and I'll I see is good intentions from him. He lays his thoughts down without the "sugar coating."


LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!
User currently offlinePanAmOldDC8 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 960 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1168 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Thread starter):
Boy - Sen. Biden pulls no punches in his opinion of his fellow democrats.

And let the games begin.



Barbados, CWC soon, can't wait
User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4343 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1161 times:

Quoting PanAmOldDC8 (Reply 3):
And let the games begin.

Unfortunately, they did on 8 November, 2006, and we're going to have to suffer through it until 11/3/2008.

Biden seems like an interesting candidate. Can't say I totally disagree with his views on the other front runners, but I tend to agree with AirCop about his prospects. But hey, one can hope. I think overall I'm still pulling for Giuliani, but he has even less of a chance than Biden in getting his party's nod.



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlinePanAmOldDC8 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 960 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1146 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 4):
I think overall I'm still pulling for Giuliani, but he has even less of a chance than Biden in getting his party's nod.

Might surprise everyone, the dark horse sometimes win. Just wish your elections didn't go on all the time. It seems to me when I turn on the TV there is always election talk going on. We in Canada are sick of our elections having had 2 in the last couple of years and we are all hoping that we can get by without anymore for awhile. Besides they cost a lot of money. Have a question, if all the money that was spent by various people on elections was put to say helping the health care system etc, wouldn't that be a better way to spend the money, rather than on TV etc. Everyone on election time is for this and that until they get in then they forget about what they promised just my  twocents 



Barbados, CWC soon, can't wait
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1143 times:

Biden is an insufferable twit.

If this gasbag got the nomination, and the GOP offered up Rudy Guiliani, I'd vote for Rudy anytime.


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4343 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1140 times:

Quoting PanAmOldDC8 (Reply 5):
Just wish your elections didn't go on all the time.

You're preaching to the choir. Although its totally contrary to our 'free speach' concept, I could almost support a ban on campaigning except for an x week period before the actual election.

Quoting PanAmOldDC8 (Reply 5):
Have a question, if all the money that was spent by various people on elections was put to say helping the health care system etc, wouldn't that be a better way to spend the money, rather than on TV etc.

Interesting statistic I heard this morning, that a Presidential bid now costs approximately $1B total (I'm assuming that means from start to getting party nomination, through the election). Obviously Senate, House, Gubernatorial and state races are significantly less, but still, the vast amount of money that goes into nothing but putting a but in a seat in a government building is insane.



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1133 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 7):
You're preaching to the choir. Although its totally contrary to our 'free speach' concept, I could almost support a ban on campaigning except for an x week period before the actual election.

Wondering if it was different when the political parties picked the candidates at the conventions, unlike today with the endless primaries. Who would have been on the ballot in November 2000 if the party hacks picked the candidates? Anyway if the primary system is going to be used, lets just have one national primary, that way the states of New Hampshire and Iowa won't have an major influence on our candidates..


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1118 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Thread starter):
I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," he said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

Wha the hell is wrong with Biden? This guy makes Dan Quayle look like Einstein.

Were prior African-American candidates a bunch of ghetto-trashy, ebonics mumbling, dirty looking, fuglies?

What about JC Watts? Harold Ford? Jesse Jackson Jr.?

And say what you want about Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton - those guys sure dress up, and are pretty articulate (I mean, you can't shut them up, much like Biden).

This guy is old hat and a loser. He wins in Delaware because of continuous name recognition and incumbency. Someone needs to put a gag order on him.


User currently offlineTZ757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2867 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1112 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 9):
He wins in Delaware because of continuous name recognition and incumbency.

and that he actually does stuff for the state.



LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!
User currently offlineDavestanKSAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1678 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1088 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Thread starter):
Quote:
Mr. Biden is equally skeptical---albeit in a slightly more backhanded way---about Mr. Obama. "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," he said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

I don't think he meant this as a racist remark, but he doesn't have his facts right.

Politics, isn't it fun.

Dave



Yesterday we've sinned, today we move towards God. Touch the sky....love and respect...Safe Star!
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1061 times:

Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 11):
I don't think he meant this as a racist remark,

While I agree with you, boy is Biden taking alot of heat regarding his comments regarding Senator Obama. Can you say you're finished before you started.


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4343 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1058 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 12):
While I agree with you, boy is Biden taking alot of heat regarding his comments regarding Senator Obama. Can you say you're finished before you started.

They had this on NPR this morning, along with some of his other 'quips' that have gotten him into trouble. He may not be done before he starts, but another blunder like this and he'll be toast.



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1051 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 12):
Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 11):
I don't think he meant this as a racist remark,

While I agree with you, boy is Biden taking alot of heat regarding his comments regarding Senator Obama.

I don't think Biden is racist either.

He's just an idiot, a loud mouth, and suffers from foot-in-the-mouth-itis.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17322 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1031 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 12):
boy is Biden taking alot of heat regarding his comments regarding Senator Obama

Apparently Jesse Jackson is okay with his remarks, and I'm sure it would have been a very different story had it been a Republican making the same gaffe Silly.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1015 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 15):
and I'm sure it would have been a very different story had it been a Republican making the same gaffe

 checkmark 

If a Republican made these comments, (s)he would be hung out to dry.


Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Thoughts On Betty Ford posted Tue Jan 2 2007 15:37:34 by AeroWesty
BA (GB) Pilot Exposes HIS Joystick On The Internet posted Sat Dec 9 2006 02:16:17 by AlanUK
Thoughts On Sen. Barack Obama? posted Tue Oct 24 2006 07:40:10 by QXatFAT
Your Thoughts On Norway posted Sun Sep 24 2006 18:17:50 by Speedbird747BA
Pete Rose- thoughts on hall of fame posted Tue Sep 19 2006 06:17:55 by TPAflyer
Look Out For AirworldA320 On The Telly, Friday posted Mon Jul 17 2006 22:46:55 by AirworldA320
A.netter's Thoughts On Future Vehicle Development posted Sat Jun 17 2006 16:13:50 by Cptkrell
Finding Out Ink Levels On HP Printers posted Tue Jun 13 2006 09:01:14 by Joffie
Thoughts On West Bank Withdrawal? posted Tue May 23 2006 16:55:42 by RJpieces
Your Thoughts On AK Senator Stevens posted Wed Apr 5 2006 23:21:24 by Bushpilot