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Another Casualty In The Wal-Mart Wars  
User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2567 times:

http://www.rnews.com/Story_2004.cfm?...60&rnews_story_type=18&category=10
Aahh, the sweet smell of progress, right?

[Edited 2007-02-05 05:15:11]

[Edited 2007-02-05 05:16:52]


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User currently offlineTransWorldSTL From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

As convenient as Wal*Mart Supercenters seem to be, they don't exactly sell the freshest of groceries, in my observations..

Like the Tyson everything that's been shipped all over the country..


Last week, while inside a local WalMart at 2am buying a magazine and pens, I saw a worker find a package of ground beef laying on a shelf. I decided to follow him to see what he did with it, knowing that the meat had probably been sitting there for most of the day (only midnight crews really sweep the store of out-of-place items)... He walked right over to the grocery section, and placed it with the other packaged meats. I notified him that the meat was surely bad, to which he replied "no, it's still good" and walked away..

I would never buy meat products, or fruits/veggies/etc from WalMart. I don't quite understand why people would.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2512 times:

This scares me. And hits home because I work in the same kind of store. We have been in the same spot for 70 years and most of our customers are regulars who have been coming here for years. And wal*mart is building a supercenter here in town.. Bastards.


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User currently offline174thfwff From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

What if a Wegmans or Kroger's built there in place of a super Walmart? Would that be okay then? It's tough luck for that guy, but if he did have a superior service, better quality of food, etc then he wouldn't have shut down.

User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3397 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

Quoting 174thfwff (Reply 3):
What if a Wegmans or Kroger's built there in place of a super Walmart?

Difference being at least with Wegmans, it's a family run buisness that treats it's employee's excellent, has ultra clean stores, and very fresh products. For that reason, I will gladly pay extra for shopping in Wegmans; at least that's how I feel.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

Quoting 174thfwff (Reply 3):
What if a Wegmans or Kroger's built there in place of a super Walmart? Would that be okay then? It's tough luck for that guy, but if he did have a superior service, better quality of food, etc then he wouldn't have shut down

How can a can of Cambels soup at walmart for 84 cents compete with the small store for 99? It doesnt. Us small stores struggle enough to keep up with regular chains. We dont have the buying power they do so to remain competitice we have to keep our prices near the chains, but wal mart prices will kick our ass.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2491 times:

Rubbish.

This happens all the time, and not just with Wal*Mart. Today I went to a small town in middle TN to watch the SB at a friends new house. I needed some Hamburger Buns, so on the way, I went to the locally owned HG Hills store that was there in December. It was closed! For good.

Why? About a mile or so down the road, a Publix opened this late summer, and a Kroger just opened.

So let's get off this train of Wal*Mart this and that. Do they close competition? Yes, of course they do, but so do many other chains. HG Hills is known for drab, high priced stores with OK service, but little selection, and they closed without a Wal*Mart being within 10 miles. In FACT, the closest W*M just closed and they moved farther north of this town to a new building.

Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 1):
He walked right over to the grocery section, and placed it with the other packaged meats. I notified him that the meat was surely bad, to which he replied "no, it's still good" and walked away..

And this also ONLY happens at Wal*Mart?



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User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2491 times:

Quoting 174thfwff (Reply 3):
What if a Wegmans or Kroger's built there in place of a super Walmart? Would that be okay then? It's tough luck for that guy, but if he did have a superior service, better quality of food, etc then he wouldn't have shut down.

I think Kroger's are only down South, so I really don't know much about them. I do know Wegman's, however.

Wegman's is a higher-end grocery store and is rarely a threat to small businesses. I haven't heard of any casualties after they opened up in the area. Heck, even our "mid-level" grocery store didn't put anyone out of business when they moved into town, competing against two other supermarkets.

And you know know as well as I do that superior service and better quality matter little when competing against a Wal-Mart. Look at the little hardware stores that get shut down. They have sales reps that have been there two decades and can give you a thirty minute lecture on hammers, and they carry dozens of types. The Wal-Mart "associate" can tell you where they are and how much they cost and that's about it.

AAndrew


User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2487 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 6):
Rubbish.

You do have a point, to an extent. The difference being when a grocery store opens, it might put another grocery store out of business. When a Wal-Mart Supercenter opens up, it puts the local shoe store, grocery store, office supply store and pharmacy out of business, if you're lucky.

AAndrew


User currently offlineTransWorldSTL From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 6):
And this also ONLY happens at Wal*Mart?

Maybe not, but it sure as hell happens A LOT MORE at walmart, than anywhere else. Why? Because the workers are poorly trained compared to specialty stores.
If I went to a local grocery store and asked them how long I could keep meat out of the fridge before it went bad, I'd get a big lecture about how it depends on the conditions, etc etc... If I went to Walmart and asked the same question to whoever was near the grocery dept, I'd get "well, i'm not sure" or "its good until it smells bad".


User currently offlineMaidensGator From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 945 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2472 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 6):
Why? About a mile or so down the road, a Publix opened this late summer,

Publix is a nice store, pricey, but nice....

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 7):
think Kroger's are only down South

Kroger is huge, they're like the third largest retailer after Wal-Mart and Home Depot. I pulled up all the stores they run:

* Baker's (Nebraska)
* Cala Foods and Bell Markets (California)
* City Market (Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming)
* Dillons (Kansas)
* Food 4 Less and Foods Co. (California, Illinois, Indiana, Nevada)
* Fred Meyer (Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, Washington)
o Fred Meyer Marketplace (Alaska, Oregon, Washington)
o Fred Meyer Northwest Best (Oregon, Washington)
* Fred Meyer Jewelers
o Littman Jewelers
o Barclay Jewelers
o Fox's Jewelers
* Fry's Food and Drug (Arizona)
o Fry's Marketplace (Arizona)
* Gerbes (Missouri)
* Hilander (Illinois)
* JayC Food Stores (Indiana)
* King Soopers (Colorado, Wyoming)
* Kroger
o Kroger Marketplace (Ohio)
* KwikShop (Kansas, Nebraska)
* Loaf 'N Jug
* Owen's Market (Indiana)
* Pay Less Food Markets (Indiana)
* Quality Food Centers aka QFC (Oregon, Washington)
* Ralphs (California)
o Ralphs Marketplace (California)
* Smith's Food and Drug (Arizona, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming)
o Smith's Marketplace (Utah)



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20640 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2471 times:

Old, local chain stores just can't survive in a lot of places, and Wal-Mart isn't always the problem. Undersized stores is the reason a 90-year-old chain went under here in Portland a few years ago. Nearly all their locations were snapped up by either more upscale chains, or chains who could expand the properties. The economies of scale and revenue per square foot is an important factor in the industry. We only have two Wal-Marts here, and neither sell groceries.


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2468 times:

Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 9):
Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 6):
And this also ONLY happens at Wal*Mart?

Maybe not, but it sure as hell happens A LOT MORE at walmart, than anywhere else

Source?

Proof?

I don't get groceries at Wally World . . . but your statement is unfounded. You can't prove it. Neither can anyone else.

Speaking of your statement . . .

Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 1):
I notified him that the meat was surely bad, to which he replied "no, it's still good" and walked away..

What did you do at this point, leave the meat, leave the store? Wasn't there a little voice in your head telling you to find a manager? Surely, even at 0200 someone is in charge. If you left how does this make you more morally correct than the moron that put the meat back on the shelf?

Wal-mart sucks in a lot of areas, but I'm here to tell you, if I need a widget and it costs US$.99 at Wally World and US$6.97 at Tommy Tentpegs widgets, I'm going to Wally World. Simply economics.

Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 9):
If I went to a local grocery store and asked them how long I could keep meat out of the fridge before it went bad, I'd get a big lecture about how it depends on the conditions, etc etc... If I went to Walmart and asked the same question to whoever was near the grocery dept, I'd get "well, i'm not sure" or "its good until it smells bad".

Opinion on your part.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17508 posts, RR: 45
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2451 times:

Here's the world's smallest violin...

Sometimes Walmart comes to town and drives inefficient competition like Dale's market out...sometimes an LCC comes to town and everyone enjoys the low fares but sticks with legacy carrier resulting in the LCC pulling out...



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User currently offlineTransWorldSTL From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Source?

Proof?

I don't get groceries at Wally World . . . but your statement is unfounded. You can't prove it. Neither can anyone else.

Well, lets go sit at Walmart for 24 hours, then a local upscale grocer for 24 hours. I'm sure we'll see more red flags at Walmart than the grocer.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 1):
I notified him that the meat was surely bad, to which he replied "no, it's still good" and walked away..

What did you do at this point, leave the meat, leave the store? Wasn't there a little voice in your head telling you to find a manager? Surely, even at 0200 someone is in charge. If you left how does this make you more morally correct than the moron that put the meat back on the shelf?

Actually, I took it and reported it to the lady who rang up my stuff. She threw it away and said she'd right it up as damaged.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 9):
If I went to a local grocery store and asked them how long I could keep meat out of the fridge before it went bad, I'd get a big lecture about how it depends on the conditions, etc etc... If I went to Walmart and asked the same question to whoever was near the grocery dept, I'd get "well, i'm not sure" or "its good until it smells bad".

Opinion on your part.

No, not at all. There have been many-a-times where Walmart employees know as much about the products their departments sell, as I do about cars (which is nothing, except their general price range)...

Edit: they're = their

[Edited 2007-02-05 06:42:54]

User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

There is an inherent bias by many against Wal-Mart for numerous reasons – anti-union, part-time, China, health care, and the venerable ‘what they do to small towns’ by putting the small guy out of business.

One example – my parents live in NB, Can across the border from Washington County in Northern Maine. They are from there and have always maintained a residence in the area. Washington County is one of the poorest counties in the US.

Sammy’s folk threw up [pun fully intended] a Wally World about a decade ago. It has absolutely devastated the lives of everyone they know. It has absolutely devastated the town and surrounding area. Has is helped the economy? Well, you can throw numbers around all day long. But those numbers don’t say part-time, uninsured people are slaves to this corporation as opposed to being the true movers and shakers of a village.

One doesn’t go to an auto mechanic, hardware store, market, furniture store, pet store, ice cream parlor, etc anymore. One goes to Wal-Mart so those slaves scan something to a ‘beep’ much to the Walton Empire’s delight.

And rural northern Maine is 10 years behind the time. Wal-Mart did this to most of America a generation ago.


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2410 times:

It's market forces and economic Darwinism at work. It may not be pretty but it is necessary for a healthy competitive environment...

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 5):
How can a can of Cambels soup at walmart for 84 cents compete with the small store for 99? It doesnt

You compete on service, among other things. I don't shop at Wal-Mart because of the store cleanliness, the product display, and the customer service (or the complete void thereof) -- the same reasons I didn't shop at Tops unless I could avoid it prior to their exiting the NEO market. (And hey-did you notice? They left NEO...I must not have been the only person avoiding them!)

The places I do shop (Zagaras Marketplace, Giant Eagle, and very occasionally Target, among others) have excellent customer service and generally fresh merchandise in well-kept stores.

I'm fortunate in that I only have to feed myself and my job pays well enough that I'm not counting every penny I spend so I can (and) do place an emphasis on total quality over cost.

(I'm also making more of an effort to shop specailty stores rather than GMing everything. It's a tough habit to break, but I feel better about shopping that way).

Lincoln



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 14):
Well, lets go sit at Walmart for 24 hours, then a local upscale grocer for 24 hours. I'm sure we'll see more red flags at Walmart than the grocer.

Not my job to substantiate your assertion/allegation.

Proof? Source? This happens MORE at Wal-Mart than anywhere else. I call it  redflag . You can't prove that.

Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 14):
Actually, I took it and reported it to the lady who rang up my stuff. She threw it away and said she'd right it up as damaged.

Excellent. And anything about the moron that put it back on the shelf? Was there some ramification for that stupidity? Glad you followed up on that . . .


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2388 times:

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 16):
It's market forces and economic Darwinism at work.

Indeed. It's easy to put the blame on Wal Mart and the likes; but after all consumers vote with their purse, hence they are to blame for bland and uniform looking cities or shopping streets and grey box-shaped megastores.



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User currently offlineTransWorldSTL From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 17):

Excellent. And anything about the moron that put it back on the shelf? Was there some ramification for that stupidity? Glad you followed up on that . . .

Would you like me to go back there yell at him for you, or something? Maybe I should have staged a sit-in, until I witnessed him being verbally and physically abused by his manager? Would that make you feel better?

I reported the incident.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 19):
Would you like me to go back there yell at him for you, or something?

 rotfl 

Noo, I mean, did the person that disposed of the meat say this idiot would be dealt with? A complaint form? An incident form?

Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 19):
I reported the incident.

I guessed that, I wondered if they had you fill out a form or some BS like that.


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2368 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 20):
had you fill out a form

You realize how badly that would come back to bite them in the ass if there were ever some sort of foodborne illness outbreak? If they could, they'd probably send the WMIB (WalMart Men In Black) out to zap his memory so he couldn't tell anyone about it, let alone creating a potentially discoverable peice of paper that may pop up in a future legal action.

Lesson #1 in Lincoln's Pretend Law School: Don't create evidence for the other side you don't have to.  Smile

Lincoln
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User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

Down here in FL, about 3/4 of a mile from a huge Lowe's is a local hardware store that was here long before the big box stores came...it still is going fine and even has expanded after the Lowe's! They actually were getting more business as many of their customers are older and don't want to deal with a big store and lack of help...

Up on Cape Cod, a Home Depot opened about 15 or so months ago...the Ace hardware store (which I use about as often as the HD) in same town said business for first 2-3 mths after HD opened was less, but has mostly returned...for similar reasons as in FL...help and size of store...I use them because they carry a different product mix than HD...and I can buy some items in smaller quantity than HD, or for less cost (especially odd/end screws, nuts/bolts, etc)

So it isn't always a big store that forces out the lil guys...it depends on how they handle it.



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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 22):

So it isn't always a big store that forces out the lil guys...it depends on how they handle it.

Quite true. All businesses have to adjust to their current conditions. Some have taken advantage by offering something different than the big box store.

I noticed some time back about the 'Home Depot Special', where for any type of home construction, there are many (lets just keep to my electrical specialty) devices that are standard and therefore cheaper (standard items are what are kept in stock at all times).

This creates a McMansion special, where many homes look very similar. The stores that keep a different stock do well, since the big box store has removed their competition.

Personally, we don't buy almost anything from Walmart. We might go there twice a year for something that does not require quality. But whoever wants to shop there can go there, this is a free, capitalist country.


User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

About 3 wks before the HD opened on Cape, I needed a small electric chainsaw...price about $53 at ACE...via net, I saw that HD's price was $10 less than ACE...so do I wait for it at HD? No...I asked at ACE if they'd split the diff...which they did...so I got it for 10% less, and when I wanted it.

Most of the stuff I buy a WalMart are things that I'd buy at some other similar large store anyway...just that W-M is much closer to home...



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25 RichardPrice : Theres a similiar arguement going on in the UK at the moment regarding Tesco - which is our biggest grocery retailer. Something like a third of all mo
26 MD11Engineer : We used to have some Walmart shops in Germany, the ones I've been in were quite clean (there were always cleaners around sweeping the shop) and the fo
27 NoUFO : Chain stores will always find means to keep prices ridiculously low. By ridiculously I mean that farmers are pressed to save money on hygiene, fodder
28 AndesSMF : It is easier to justify spending more money for a typical one-time purchase than what you NEED to buy constantly, such a food and gas.
29 Banco : Sure. And it's invariably the same people that use them because they are cheaper that then complain about the loss of local shops. Personally, I tend
30 Pope : The beauty of capitalism is that every single consumer gets to vote on this every single day by deciding where they shop. The problem is that the mark
31 Dougloid : Absolutely correct. Every dollar you spend is a vote for how you'd like your world to look, and every dollar spent is a political statement about the
32 LTBEWR : I don't think Wal-Mart is the only cause for the disappearance of family run retail businesses - there are other factors too. Many of the later genera
33 MD11Engineer : Wel, there are some exceptions when you will be forced to buy at one single supplier: Back in the late 1990s, when I was working in SNN, Ireland, the
34 UH60FtRucker : LH, just a point of contention... why would you post just a link, without expanding upon the subject of your thread or the link? Indeed, one doesn't
35 KROC : Mark is still not over his favorite local bar closing down, so now its just drop a link and not actually discuss the issue. I think the best point ma
36 MD11Engineer : I think the problem is also that there exists a downward spiral concerning income, at least in Germany where over the last ten years or so net income
37 Post contains images Banco : Great boss. Must be nice to know he rates what you do so highly. Perhaps the cost of having to hire new staff after his existing ones have all left m
38 767Lover : Then you should have nothing to worry about. And this reminds me of the little donut and sandwich shop around the corner from me. It's owned by a Kor
39 NoUFO : Funny enough, this never works the other way around. In this case your employer would (rightfully) claim that you'll have to substantiate the increas
40 LHMARK : Sorry. I found the story late last night and posted it just before going to bed. I think it sucks, and I'm disappointed in American consumers for let
41 Pope : Of course, but is that the case with Wal*Mart? The biggest criticism I hear of it is that it drives out smaller competitors. Therefore, competition d
42 JeepBoy : Wall Mart = white trash = food stamps = if the Chinese economy flops... They are stalking Australia now which is an interesting thing. Cheers, j
43 Dougloid : Walmart isn't very helpful if you're a manufacturer trying to compete with Stalag China. Some folks have found that between just-in-time ordering, Wal
44 Post contains images Fumanchewd : You obviously haven't been to any stores in the US. Perhaps not in rural areas, but in suburbs and the city a good portion of the customers are "mino
45 Dougloid : That might hold true anywhere in your state...on the other hand, on the rare occasions that I go to Wally World the crowd seems to be about 50 per ce
46 MaidensGator : Even though I live in Florida, I've been to Wal-Mart in Arizona. It was identical to the one at home. Everything in the same place. It was pretty cle
47 Beefstew25 : I wonder if when cars were invented, people bitched about how the stables were going to go under. If you don't adjust, you lose. In high school I deli
48 MD11Engineer : This is actually how many Turkish and Chinese owned corner shops in German cities survive, by delivering groceries to their customers. Jan
49 QXatFAT : I am proud to say that here in Madera, CA we have a Wal-Mart who keeps on pushing for the past 3 years a Super Wal-Mart and the City of Madera keeps o
50 Post contains images Itsjustme : I don't agree with Pope too often but he's hit the nail on the head here. With regard to the quoted article, the customers of Dale's Market have no o
51 Lincoln : Margianally on topic, but I thought Madera was home to the first Wal Mart in California...or at least that's what the relatives I had in Madera told
52 767Lover : At least they are making prices affordable for the poor. I don't imagine laborers and their families can afford to shop at the Fresh Market on a regul
53 KaiGywer : She'd write it up as damaged... Talking about the one in Truman, MN? Just a few miles from me actually. I wouldn't say that, as most of their stuff i
54 Luv2fly : See if you work hard and worry about yourself more than what the other guy is doing you can make it.
55 Pope : And that is one of the little reported secrets about Wal*Mart. Though it's correct that the name brand sold in Wal*Mart are the same name brands sold
56 J_Hallgren : I think this also depends on the type of product involved...as I doubt there are different levels of things that have a specific model number, such a
57 Lincoln : The thing to compare isn't the model number silkscreened on the thing but the UPC code on the box. Working in the AV industry, I've found a few thing
58 Pope : Absolutely. I by no means am arguing that every product in WM is unique to it. But part of their strategy to keep prices low is to allow lower grade
59 J_Hallgren : Agreed...they sometimes have slightly different model numbers for same product for this reason, as in XY-4251 vs XY-4252 or such. But there are thous
60 ShyFlyer : This is the reason I won't by consumer electronics at Wal-Mart any more. Items such as: I have no problem with.
61 QXatFAT : I dont know if it was the very first but it was one put in the Central Valley in the earlyest stages of Wal Marts locations here. The reasoning for t
62 Pope : The funny thing about Wal*Mart is that if you really study the whole basket of goods purchased by consumers, it isn't all that cheaper (and frequently
63 Lincoln : I was born in '84 out in '89 but visited several times per year until 2000 or so. My grandpatents built their house (on DeChesari at California) in t
64 APFPilot1985 : no the people who chose to shop at Wal-Mart did it. Walmart doesn't force anyone to shop there, if people we so concerned about their local stores th
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