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One-Handed Handgun Shooting?  
User currently offlineDrDeke From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 830 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

I have a question regarding the de facto second-favorite topic here: Guns!

I think it would be interesting to go learn to shoot a handgun, but I may have a problem: One of my arms is several inches longer than the other due to a birth defect, so I'm not sure I'll be able to hold one properly. I am led to understand that a handgun is normally held with both hands when firing; but if I am going to do this, my longer arm will have to be bent at the elbow while my shorter arm will be held straight, and it seems like this could cause major problems with accuracy and recoil.

So, I'm wondering, is it possible to fire a gun while holding it with one hand? Safely? Anywhere near accurately? If not, that's fine; this is just a curiosity for me, not a safety need or major desire. However, I do wish to avoid going down to the shooting range and breaking my elbow/shoulder/arms/etc by doing something stupid  Smile.

Any thoughts?

-DrDeke


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

Quoting DrDeke (Thread starter):
So, I'm wondering, is it possible to fire a gun while holding it with one hand? Safely? Anywhere near accurately?

Yes, to all of the above.

Quite possible.

Depending on the type of handgun, and the training involved.

Obviously, a IMI Desert Eagle is a pretty heavy weapon and two hands is always preferred - and with the desert Eagle a necessity to be accurate and safe.

That said, there are plenty of lighter weapons, with serious hitting power, out there, it shouldn't be a problem.

In fact, we train in my department to shoot accurately one handed, just in case an arm is incapacitated. We train to load and reload that way as well. I can shoot my duty weapon, within reasonable range, accurately with either hand, only one hand on the weapon.

It's not the preferred method, but in the even it becomes necessary, I can do it. Training is the key.

In your case, using two hands, one arm bent, the other straight, will just be a matter of training. Not major problem really. Practice will make perfect.


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14139 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

The traditional (dueling, trained until after WW2) style of handgun shooting is single handed, with the arm outstretched and the side of the body turned towards the target.
Just watch olympic target shooters.

Jan


User currently offlineIlikeyyc From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1499 times:

Quoting DrDeke (Thread starter):
Any thoughts?

Yes. Try to make it to Birmingham, Alabama in October for our A.net meet:

http://www.freewebs.com/bhmshoot07/index.htm



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User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Practice will make perfect.

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See below:


User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

Quoting DrDeke (Thread starter):

I think it would be interesting to go learn to shoot a handgun, but I may have a problem

Good to hear of your interest, DrDeke! No, I don't think you're going to have a problem. I reread your post very carefully and didn't see any mention of a difference in strength of the arms, just length. Look around your area to find a GOOD handgun instructor that you are comfortable with and will help you to find your own most comfortable way to hold a handgun, either with both hands or just one.

Quoting DrDeke (Thread starter):
So, I'm wondering, is it possible to fire a gun while holding it with one hand? Safely? Anywhere near accurately?

YES!!! As ANCFlyer said....

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
In fact, we train in my department to shoot accurately one handed, just in case an arm is incapacitated. We train to load and reload that way as well. I can shoot my duty weapon, within reasonable range, accurately with either hand, only one hand on the weapon.

As a Handgun Instructor I train my students to shoot one-handed and doing so is a part of the qualification shoots at some of the advanced firearms training schools. I practiced shooting one-handed just day before yesterday as a matter of fact! Anyone who is serious about being able to shoot a handgun in a defensive situation should be trained and PRACTICE shooting one-handed with both their strong and their weak hand!

Here's a target I shot Saturday with a new Sig P220 .45ACP, 32 shots (8 rounds per magazine, 3 reloads) in 38 seconds from 7 yards with my preferred stance, both hands:



And here's the same thing, 32 shots in 48 seconds using my "weak" hand (ignore the smaller .22 holes):



....so you can see, it is certainly possible and if you practice (like I need to do more of!) you can get really good at it!

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 4):
See below:

Good picture of a Classic Weaver stance. This can be slightly changed into a Modified Weaver or a Chapman stance as needed to suit the individual shooter. Females often use a stance such as this to "accomodate" their anatomy, and they do so with great success when properly trained.

Here's a good web page that shows you some of the variations that can be made to suit your anatomy: http://corneredcat.com/ShootingBasics/stance.htm
Edit: See the last picture at the bottom of this page for a proper one-hand grip.

And if you decide to shoot one-handed, it is no problem at all! Good luck and let us know how it goes! Hope you can make it to the BHM meet like Ilikeyyc mentioned earlier. If you do, I'd be glad to work with you to help you find what works out best.

[Edited 2007-02-05 19:40:56]

User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12285 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1373 times:
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Good to see your interest. I'm sure you'll find a way to do it. Like Queso said, find an instructor that'll teach you the best stance for you.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Practice will make perfect.

Perfect practice makes perfect  Wink



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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

I once sold a pistol (not revolver, the dude insisted on a Walther PPK/S) to a man with one arm. (He immediately told all the Fugitive jokes for us, to take the pressure off). I showed him how to reload a magazine one handed and how to work the slide one handed (something I learned in my bored time in the military...kids with weapons and time...).

He took the thing to the range to practice and brought back (after a few months) a set of targets that looked as good as any most two handed shooters come with. He'd lost the left arm (BE amputee) at a relatively early age so was well used to doing things one-handed and adapted faster than someone who had two normally functioning arms would have.

SO....short answer after long story...yes. You'll be able to do this, but you'll need to practice. And then practice some more.



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User currently offlineDrDeke From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 830 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1321 times:

Hey,

Thanks for all of your input. It sounds like there shouldn't be any major problems after all. I don't know whether I will be able to come to the meet in October; I'm a bit short on cash these days and I will need to fly to Portland in August already to attend a friend's wedding. However, I'll keep it in mind if I save up some cash by then.

Thanks again for all the advice!

DrDeke



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User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3087 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1301 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
In fact, we train in my department to shoot accurately one handed, just in case an arm is incapacitated. We train to load and reload that way as well. I can shoot my duty weapon, within reasonable range, accurately with either hand, only one hand on the weapon.



That is what we worked on today at police camp. We shot 200 rounds or so...over the course of an hour.

GS



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User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1295 times:

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 9):
That is what we worked on today at police camp. We shot 200 rounds or so...over the course of an hour.

How did you do? Were you taught to keep the opposite hand gripped tightly while shooting?

Maybe you should start another thread and let us know how your training is going!


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1290 times:

Quoting DrDeke (Thread starter):
my longer arm will have to be bent at the elbow while my shorter arm will be held straight, and it seems like this could cause major problems with accuracy and recoil.

Actually, ANCFlyer seems to shoot his gun a bit like that

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
I can shoot my duty weapon, within reasonable range, accurately with either hand, only one hand on the weapon.

Accuracy? Brent and Ian might have something to say about that  duck 



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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1290 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
Accuracy? Brent and Ian might have something to say about that

ok.....leave me the hell out of this fire mission.....




even though ANC must have been hungover the last time we went shooting....  Wink



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1282 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 12):
ok.....leave me the hell out of this fire mission.....

Hey, you were the one gloating the most  Silly



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1263 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):



Quoting DL021 (Reply 12):



Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):

 irked 

 wink 

High and right . . . happens every time I use the Weaver. Simply trained differently. Still prefer to shoot in a military stance.

No excuses for poor marksmanship however. None offered.

Oh, and you two can both kiss . . . .  wink  nevermind.  laughing 


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Quoting DL021 (Reply 12):
ok.....leave me the hell out of this fire mission.....

Hey, you were the one gloating the most

Yeah, but that was on scene.....and you're just reopening old wounds! knife wounds, to be sure, because he wasn't hitting broad sides of hangars that day!  Wink

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 14):
High and right . . . happens every time I use the Weaver. Simply trained differently. Still prefer to shoot in a military stance.

No excuses for poor marksmanship however. None offered.

none expected, and the shooting was not bad....I am making fun only because I know the dude had an off day and he knows the deal.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 14):
Oh, and you two can both kiss . . . . nevermind.

Oh, in that case........ you suck!

 Wink  rotfl 



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