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Strange Art For An Airport, Or Is It?  
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5619 posts, RR: 32
Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2332 times:



The above piece of art is currently on display in the B area in Brussels Zaventem Airport. At a first glance it looks completely innocuous, but it is only when you see the date "11 Sept 2001" significantly appearing twice in postmark form, and the two AA JFK luggage tags, just off the perpendicular and obviously representing the Twin Towers, that you realise there is more to it than meets the eye.

Situated right next to some boarding gates would seem a strange place to remind passengers of the most infamous day in aviation history, and the cynic in me wondered at first if it was positioned next to the bar to increase the sale of Jupiler beer to nervous passengers, but, thinking about it, I think the Brussels Airport Company made a good decision to display this painting. Had it been visually descriptive of the event it would have been in very bad taste, yet it is a reminder of that tragic day without being in any way mawkish.

What do other A.netters think, particuarly Americans, and is there anything similar in any other airport?

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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4343 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2328 times:

The choice of location is definitely a little odd, but as art I like it. It doesn't try to make a political statement, just a visual representation of the event using related objects.


"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1145 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2300 times:

If you think that's weird...you should see what they have up in Toronto's T1. Aparently they spent millions on it too!


Contact Winnipeg center now on 134.4, good day.
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2287 times:

7 cents stamps for airmail in 2001, must have missed that bargain. The art doesn't offend me at all, and to be quite frankly if it noticed the postmark it probably would gone over my head and I won't have but 2 and 2 together.

User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2283 times:

The postage amount is wrong. Return to sender.

Mark


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2274 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 3):
7 cents stamps for airmail in 2001

Those air mail stamps are from 1960.

Mark


User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2258 times:

Can anybody find out if this is something that was recently put up? It might have been put up before 9/11, which would make it highly ironic.

User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

Is the pallet part of the display?

Mark


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5619 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 3):
7 cents stamps for airmail in 2001, must have missed that bargain.



Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 5):
Those air mail stamps are from 1960.

I wonder if the choice of stamp is symbolic? The painting is full of symbols: the crucifix shape on the left, the two luggage tags, the two postmarks and the two stamps. Maybe they were the only ones the artist could find which depicted airliners. Also the 7 could be significant seeing that both planes in the attacks were Boeings.


User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

Quoting Queso (Reply 6):
Can anybody find out if this is something that was recently put up? It might have been put up before 9/11, which would make it highly ironic.

Don't the post marks have times on them? It looks like 0909, and 0943 - is that not the time the planes hit the towers or they fell? I cannot remember.

If it is, I'd say it is almost certain it was put up after 9/11.

Adam


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

Quoting BA757 (Reply 9):
Don't the post marks have times on them? It looks like 0909, and 0943

Dates and times on cancelling machines are changed by hand. Must be a pisser working for the post office. Cancel some mail. Change the time. Cancel some mail. Change the time. Cancel some mail. Change the time.....

Mark


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5619 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):
Is the pallet part of the display?

No. As far as I know it has nothing to do with it. More likely untidy Zaventem airport workers.

Quoting BA757 (Reply 9):
Don't the post marks have times on them? It looks like 0909, a

The time is on both postmarks is 9.03, which, strangely, is the time the second plane hit the towers.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2173 times:

I think it's an interesting piece of artwork on a number of levels, follows the name of the painting, "Headline News", and a lot of thought was put into it. The airmail stamps are from the era when JFK was elected. If they'd used the 1963 airmail stamps, the year JFK died, I think the meaning of piece would have changed significantly considering the significance of the postmarks:




International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2149 times:

American Flight 77 was the flight that struck the Pentagon, so the 7¢ 7¢ may help explain that, but there is no 93...

Also note the time on the New York rubber stamps.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2136 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 13):
American Flight 77 was the flight that struck the Pentagon, so the 7¢ 7¢ may help explain that

Good catch! The detail of what's inside the representation of a cross in the lower left corner isn't all together clear, and perhaps that has something to do with 93.



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1621 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
there anything similar in any other airport?

I have heard of (and seen photos) of some truly bizarre art in the main terminal of Denver International Airport, ranging from Masonic symbols to a large mural depicting death, war, etc.

Have you seen this?

SmithAir747



I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made... (Psalm 139:14)
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5619 posts, RR: 32
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 12):
I think it's an interesting piece of artwork on a number of levels, follows the name of the painting, "Headline News", and a lot of thought was put into it.

Yup. And it is a subtle reminder as to why we have just passed though ANOTHER extensive security check. And, being in the EU capital, I think it should reassure Americans that Europe is not the completly hostile place some may think.

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 13):
American Flight 77 was the flight that struck the Pentagon, so the 7¢ 7¢ may help explain that, but there is no 93...

Also, it's curious that both luggage tags are AA, yet there is none for United.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 14):
The detail of what's inside the representation of a cross in the lower left corner isn't all together clear

It's a quotation of some sort, Westy, which appears to be in English. The author is obviously dead as there is a set of dates after his name:





[Edited 2007-02-05 22:45:52]

User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5619 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

Quoting SmithAir747 (Reply 15):
I have heard of (and seen photos) of some truly bizarre art in the main terminal of Denver International Airport, ranging from Masonic symbols to a large mural depicting death, war, etc

No, I have never been to Denver, unfortunately. Sounds interesting though.


User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2052 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 10):
Dates and times on cancelling machines are changed by hand. Must be a pisser working for the post office. Cancel some mail. Change the time. Cancel some mail. Change the time. Cancel some mail. Change the time.....

Are you for real?

Adam


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

Quoting BA757 (Reply 18):
Are you for real?

That's the way it used to be done. Every 30 minutes, the postal worker had to stop and change the time.

Mark


User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2030 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 19):
That's the way it used to be done. Every 30 minutes, the postal worker had to stop and change the time.

I can understand that a long time ago, but in this day and age there is no need. Surely they have progressed since then.

Actually mail systems are something that interest me. It is pretty amazing how efficient the system is considering. I would love to go behind the scenes and have a look at it all.


User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

Quoting SmithAir747 (Reply 15):
I have heard of (and seen photos) of some truly bizarre art in the main terminal of Denver International Airport, ranging from Masonic symbols to a large mural depicting death, war, etc.

Have you seen this?

yup. google "denver international airport" you'll see the new world order conspiracy sites.

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 16):
Quoting Nosedive (Reply 13):
American Flight 77 was the flight that struck the Pentagon, so the 7¢ 7¢ may help explain that, but there is no 93...
Also, it's curious that both luggage tags are AA, yet there is none for United.

Yeah, noticed that as well, and I'm not sure what to make of it... what it an oversight? Did the artist know someone on the AA flights? Is it corperate art?      Any more info you can recall Braybuddy?

I looked at the BRU webpage for any info on this piece, nothing I could find.


EDIT: I did find this about the painter, Phillipe Lebeau:


"Nation's Capital" Painted in 1989. Whoever he is, and he shares the name with another Belgian painter from the 1500s, he loved the U.S.

EDIT EDIT: Short Bio If you look at the painting Braybuddy posted, "Headline News," it appears to be part of a compilation of paintings, the signatures of such are postmarks and postage stamps. Other items, such as Native Americans and the NY Times (well newspaper titles in general) also play a role. The USA 29 stamp, westy is talking about (I think) does have a role in some of his other paintings, and that's leading me to think that while that stamp may be a stamp that binds the art to the series, the 7 cent stamps are supposed to be symbolic of AA 77. The background color is used in another NY Times themed painting, and the background "waves" are also used in one form or another. I'd like to know what the note on the left hand side says, as its, judging by his other paintings, is culturally based; Western Native American Tribes and Chinese make a role here. Wonder what this specific 9/11 one says, as it probably is another Native American tie. His notes are in English, and one looks to be in Chinese.

Here's another 9/11 based theme, again with some Native American influence: WTC ticket stub and 9/11 postmark


[Edited 2007-02-06 01:54:54]

[Edited 2007-02-06 01:58:53]

[Edited 2007-02-06 02:05:34]

User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5619 posts, RR: 32
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 21):
Is it corperate art? Any more info you can recall Braybuddy?

Thanks for all that info, Nosedive, and it appears there is a lot more to this painting than meets the eye. I'd never heard of Phillipe Lebeau, and did Google him, but only got a site in Flemish. I've no other information on the painting at all, unfortunately. Mabye some Belgian A.netters can help us here?


User currently offlineBwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1366 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 22):
Mabye some Belgian A.netters can help us here?

To the rescue!


Philippe Lebeau born in Tongeren in 1944 and studied at the “Ecole Supérieure des Beaux Arts St Luc in Liege. (born in Flanders, studied in Wallonia... a true Belgian!)

He started out as a surrealist, influenced by Salvador Dali

A trip in 1981 to the USA got him into "the american dream". He got fascinated by the diversity and reality of pop art.
His own style was inspired by Christo, Rauschenberg en Warhol, and evolved after meeting Jan Hoet (local culture pope from Gent) into an instantly recognisable, fresh and moody paper, with strong filosofical undertones.

He continues to build his own artistic world, always strongely connected with the American culture.

He uses old Indian habits, the deep wounds of slavery and the bombastic etiquette of the high class in contrast with the everyday, often banal of the consumption society and the "hamburger culture" of your everyday john doe.


Hope this makes some sense...  Wink



I love my Airport Job! :)
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5619 posts, RR: 32
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1892 times:

Quoting Bwest (Reply 23):
Hope this makes some sense...

It sure does, and it fits in with what Bwest says above. Thanks Bwest. BTW I like his style: particularly his iconic use of everyday objects.


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