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Astronaut Arrested At MCO For Attempted Kidnapping  
User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3309 posts, RR: 30
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

Shuttle astronaut arrested at MCO on attempted kidnap, battery charges

A NASA astronaut is charged with attacking her rival for another astronaut's attention early Monday at Orlando International Airport, the Orlando Sentinel has learned.

Lisa Marie Nowak drove from Texas to meet the 1 a.m. flight of a younger woman who had also been seeing the male astronaut Nowak pined for, according to Orlando police. Nowak - who was a mission specialist on a Discovery launch last summer - was wearing a trench coat and wig with a knife, BB pistol, rubber tubing and plastic bags, reports show. Once U.S. Air Force Capt. Colleen Shipman arrived, Nowak followed her to the airport's Blue Lot for long-term parking, tried to get into Shipman's car and doused her with pepper spray, according to reports.

Nowak, 43, is charged with attempted kidnapping, battery, attempted vehicle burglary with battery and destruction of evidence. Police considered her such a danger that they requested she be held without bail in the Orange County Jail, reports show. Nowak told police that she was "involved in a relationship with," Bill Oefelein another NASA astronaut, and categorized the relationship as "more than a working relationship but less than a romantic relationship," according to the charging affidavit.

Nowak told police that she found out Oefelein was involved with Shipman and planned a trip to Orlando to talk to Shipman about their relationships with Oefelein. She told police the BB gun "was going to be used to entice Ms. Shipman to talk with her," the affidavit said.

Shipman told police that when she arrived at the airport and was waiting for the airport satellite parking shuttle, she noticed a woman wearing a trench coat near the taxi stand. The woman boarded the bus after Shipman, according to police, and followed her to Shipman's car.

When Shipman got into her car, reports show, she heard "running footsteps" coming toward her. Nowak tried to open the car door, then claimed she needed a ride, or use of a cell phone. When Shipman rolled down her window a couple of inches, Nowak "sprayed some type of chemical spray into the vehicle," reports show.

Police said that along with the weapons and other items in Nowak's car, they found e-mails from Shipman to Oefelein, Mapquest directions from Houston to the Orlando airport, and diapers, which Nowak told police she used so she wouldn't have to stop on the drive. Monday's arrest is the first-ever on felony charges for an active-duty astronaut, according to the space agency.


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Wow. Just wow.


"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
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User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

Thatd be embarrasing. She needs to join a.net and take a chill pill.

Cheers,
Kyle


User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3707 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2902 times:
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Crazy bitch. Congrats, the closest you'll ever get to space exploration again is a voyage to Uranus.




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User currently offlineGh123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

I don't mean to be a bore but this is NOT Civil Aviation!

User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2878 times:

She could have gotten there faster in a T-38.

Mark


User currently offlineRammstein From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2803 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
Police said that along with the weapons and other items in Nowak's car, they found ... diapers, which Nowak told police she used so she wouldn't have to stop on the drive.

 gasp   ill   vomit 


User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2333 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
was wearing a trench coat



Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
a knife



Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
BB pistol



Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
rubber tubing



Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
plastic bags



Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
pepper spray



Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
and diapers

The only thing missing is a trailer park



Where did everybody go?
User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2794 times:

Apparently at no point during the very long and boring drive from Houston to Orlando did she realize that maybe she hadn't thought her plan all the way through? Perhaps she was too distracted by sitting in her pee diapers to realize that abducting a Captain in the USAF isn't the best of ideas.

Perhaps if she'd taken the time to pee while on one of her many gas stops on the way, she would have realized at least one of the many, many flaws in her not so cunning scheme.


User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2773 times:

Quoting AAFLT1871 (Reply 6):
The only thing missing is a trailer park

 rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl 


User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21851 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

Quoting AAFLT1871 (Reply 6):
The only thing missing is a trailer park

Indeed. Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.  Smile

-Mir



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

Man.. all I can do is  no 

I mean It baffles my mind that someone can rise to this level of education and professionalisim and still do stupid shit like this. This is a black eye for NASA even if it disappears tomorrow. Sad.


User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

"Well this is all VERY sophisticated."

-Jerry Seinfeld

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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13192 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

One has to wonder how she got as far as she did as an astronaut. Don't they do extensive psychological reviews on astronauts? Assuming this is true, that this woman needs to be put into long-term psychological hospitalization.

Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
Mapquest directions from Houston to the Orlando airport, and diapers, which Nowak told police she used so she wouldn't have to stop on the drive.

What a yuck factor....but then again, she may have had to use diapers in flight, so had the experience. It is amazing how sex and lust can screw up someone.


User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 10):
I mean It baffles my mind that someone can rise to this level of education and professionalisim and still do stupid shit like this.

You know, in certain circles I know it almost seems to get worse with those that have more education/"professionalism"...or at least it certainly doesn't seem to get any better.

What a shame. I liked her.



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User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 12):
One has to wonder how she got as far as she did as an astronaut. Don't they do extensive psychological reviews on astronauts? Assuming this is true, that this woman needs to be put into long-term psychological hospitalization.

I thought the same thing. One thing is for sure, she will NEVER be a member of any type of flight crew ever again.

It is pretty tragic--such a distinguished and unique career is destroyed by one act of foolishness.

And I too wonder why she didn't cool her jets during the 1,000-mile drive. (No pun intended.)


User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1147 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
Wow. Just wow.

I agree sir. The military court she will face will probably rip her a new one.

Quoting AAFLT1871 (Reply 6):
The only thing missing is a trailer park

My exact thought! Haha it's just unbelievable.



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User currently onlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2059 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 12):
It is amazing how sex and lust can screw up someone.

I'm not sure. I believe it's more like a meth addiction than sex and lust:

6 Months ago:


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2598 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 12):
What a yuck factor....but then again, she may have had to use diapers in flight, so had the experience.

At least she had diapers, Alan Shepard had to go in the suit.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 16):

I'm not sure. I believe it's more like a meth addiction than sex and lust

If that is the same person, I would have to believe there is something going on there.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2580 times:

Hell, I missed the part about the fact her claimed lover is Bill Oefelein. He has been getting a lot of press after the last shuttle mission which he piloted up here as Alaska's first astronaut.


http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/8617715p-8510293c.html



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2561 times:

Shows that astraunauts are humans.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 16):

Current Pic:

I'm not saying she's looking good on that pic, but she's looking more interesting than on the first. Kind of Patti Smith versus good daughter-in-law.



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User currently offlineRJdxer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

Just proves the old saying. Hell hath no fury liked a scorned woman. Think about the rage you have to be carrying to drive from Houston to Orlando and try this stunt.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

Quoting AAFLT1871 (Reply 6):
The only thing missing is a trailer park

 rotfl  rotfl 

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 7):
Apparently at no point during the very long and boring drive from Houston to Orlando did she realize that maybe she hadn't thought her plan all the way through? Perhaps she was too distracted by sitting in her pee diapers to realize that abducting a Captain in the USAF isn't the best of ideas

Yup, I bet her flight status is pretty precarious . . .

And what kind of car might she have been driving that she didn't need to stop for fuel (or pee breaks)?

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 10):
This is a black eye for NASA even if it disappears tomorrow.

Disagree.

it never ceases to amaze me that folks instantly give "black eyes' to the organizations to which some nut job or screw up is affiliated as if it's the Agency's fault. There are always bad apples, TedT . . . .

Quoting L-188 (Reply 18):
Hell, I missed the part about the fact her claimed lover is Bill Oefelein

D'Oh! I bet his family is wanting some answers tonight! Anyone see a mushroom cloud over ANC???

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 16):

Looking at the comparison of the two photos . . .

Can anyone say Crack/Meth addict?

There's sure something amiss here . . .


User currently offlineIlikeyyc From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2512 times:

This is a pretty effed up story. More proof that truth is stranger than fiction.


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User currently offlineBEG2IAH From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 980 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2502 times:
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/05/space.love/index.html

Two astronauts, Navy Capt. Chris Ferguson and retired Air Force Col. Steve Lindsey, have gone to Florida to establish contact with Nowak, Hawley said, adding that her status as an active-duty astronaut remains unchanged. Lindsey, the chief astronaut, was the commander of Nowak's shuttle flight.

Wasn't she one of the robochicks during STS-121?

So sad.

BEG2IAH



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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2492 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
A NASA astronaut is charged with attacking her rival for another astronaut's attention

Gives a whole new meaning to Star Wars

Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
Lisa Marie Nowak drove from Texas

Aww, aint it sweet. Shows just how much she cares.  Yeah sure

Quoting KFLLCFII (Thread starter):
in Nowak's car, they found e-mails from Shipman to Oefelein, Mapquest directions from Houston to the Orlando airport, and diapers, which Nowak told police she used so she wouldn't have to stop on the drive.

Eww. This be one wacked out chick.

I guess the silver lining to this whole thing is at least it happened here on the ground, instead of during a mission.


25 MD11Engineer : This is probably because during the 1950s to 1980s NASA has been presenting the astronauts to the public not as human specialists for a difficult job
26 TedTAce : True, but this is the first example of this group (atronauts) that I can think of.
27 PanAmOldDC8 : Poor woman , I guess she had the blast really badly. She needs help in the worst way
28 TPAnx : Astro-naughty...sad ,really... TPAnx
29 Post contains images TedTAce : That along with all the training they go through to get there; not to mention psychological screening... while it shows something of a flaw in that p
30 Venus6971 : When I was in I knew this female USAF Capt pilot who had everything going for her, USAFA grad and a E-3 acft commander then everything started to unra
31 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Let's not forget Oefellein's married to. Just goes to show, no matter what the company, be it a small paper company up to NASA, dating your coworkers
32 PROSA : I don't get the part about the diapers. Given the length of the drive Nowak would have had to make at least two fuel stops. She could've bailed out th
33 Beefstew25 : This story confirms my beliefs that at some point during shuttle missions, there has been sex in space. This chick would be the perfect catchers-mitt
34 Post contains images TedTAce : Unless you wanted to breed a future Darwin Award winner
35 Beefer : She is also the mother of a teen age daugther. I've read three different sources on this story and each one has said that he is unmarried but is the
36 VC10BOAC : No he is not. He does have two kids, though.
37 J_Hallgren : She's now been called the "diapernaut"... And those pics show how far 'down to earth' one can come...
38 AsstChiefMark : Put Nowak, Shipman, and Oefelein together on a six-month ISS mission and see what happens. It would be a pretty cool (and low-cost) experiment. Mark
39 Post contains images Aerobalance : I went to College with one of the astronauts on STS-118, I read the headline this morning hoping it wasn't her, thank God that was the case. I get to
40 J_Hallgren : She is now charged also with attempted first-degree murder...according to WFTS news...as of noontime, they gave that info as breaking news from the co
41 Dvk : The woman has clearly gone nuts. Her actions are beyond irrational. Besides her criminal charges, she needs a psychiatric evaluation. I really feel so
42 Derico : Well it's nice to know people are innocent until proven guilty. I don't care what country it is in this world and how good or bad the justice system t
43 Beefstew25 : We are not the court. We can surmise all we want. How about: I bet she is guilty.
44 767Lover : Oh, get off your high horse. She pepper-sprayed a woman (admitting this to police) and carried around items (BB gun, etc.) intended to "coerce." If s
45 Post contains images ShyFlyer : Well it's nice to know that world takes the Non-Av forum at Airliners.net so seriously so as to us it instead of conducting a trial. She probably did
46 GuitrThree : I heard N1120A was going to represent her. I heard him muttering something about it's not illegal to carry BB guns, mace, rubber restraining devices,
47 Aerobalance : Just NASA training shining through... This case will be thrown out in six mos. time.
48 NoUFO : Two would be pregnant and one would claim it wasn't him.
49 Post contains images AvObserver : Not really. She's done, period. Even if NASA retains her in the astronaut corps for a time until either charges are dropped or her trial is over, her
50 Post contains images Boeing4ever : I stand corrected. B4e-Forever New Frontiers
51 767Lover : Not that I agree with you, but you know who else works for the shuttle space program? Randy Yates, the guy whose wife Andrea Yates killed their 5 kid
52 L-188 : Yeah but that charge is more about the prosecuter being pissed with the 15 grand in bail vs anything she did. The fact the bail was only increase by
53 Adam T. : I wondered about this as well.....she had to have stopped, there is no question about that. It takes like 15 hours to get from Houston to Orlando and
54 Post contains images Aerobalance : ...And the Snowglobe....
55 Post contains images TedTAce : That might be a poor reflection of his marital decision, but he didn't do it and he ain't an astronaut. Apples and oranges, but good point.
56 Post contains images Allstarflyer : Astronaut now astro-not - think they'll put her in a cryo-cell like the SS Botany Bay? Nah, guess she'll have to look at the same bars other prisoner
57 767Lover : Yes, but a lot of people tried to implicate him as the reason for her craziness. (i.e., making her have so many kids and live in an RV, overly contro
58 CF188A : proves that if you go to space you are not human:P kiddin, pretty unfortunate. I guess this is the end of her NASA career>?
59 LTBEWR : The tabloid newspapers and TV have had a field day with this story with headlines like "Lust in Space", or "AstroNut" or "Lost in Space" are among the
60 VC10BOAC : I was wondering about this, I did not feel he should be sanctioned because I don't think he did anything wrong other than carrying on with two women
61 VC10BOAC : Google "sex in space" and you will be surprised at what comes up. It likely has happened among the Americans though one cannot be sure. However I wou
62 Blackbird1331 : NASA had a press conference about this today, 2.7.07. Can anyone sum up what was said?
63 TedTAce : The gist of it from what LITTLE I got was that they love her, want to try to take care of her, and are going to review instituting psych reviews on a
64 Post contains links ZANL188 : Check out the charging documents here: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0206073astronut1.html Apparently she didn't drive straight thru
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