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Gay Snickers Ad Pulled  
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2504 times:

Even I think that this is a bit over the top!
in case you missed it:



Snickers ad pulled after complaints from gay groups

HACKETTSTOWN, N.J. -- A commercial for Snickers candy bars launched in the Super Bowl broadcast was benched after its maker got complaints that it was homophobic.

The ad showed two auto mechanics accidentally kissing while eating the same candy bar and then ripping out some chest hair to do something "manly." One of the alternate endings on the Snickers Web site showed the men attacking each other.

The Human Rights Campaign and the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation complained to the maker of Snickers, Hackettstown-based Masterfoods USA, a division of Mars Inc., which also makes M&M's and other candies.

The Web site also featured video of players from the Super Bowl teams reacting to the kiss.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a.../20070206/NEWS07/70206064/1081/COL

[Edited 2007-02-07 00:29:29]

[Edited 2007-02-07 00:31:46]

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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

The White Trash Defemation League will be contacting the Mars Corporation in the morning to notify them of the offense they have taken at the Snickers commercials portrayal of white trash.

In other news, The Human Rights Campaign and GLAAD really need to get a life.


User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2473 times:

I figured the first ad to be pulled was the GM ad where the robot "commits suicide"...

User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2473 times:

Oh for crying out loud.

I'm amazed at the ridiculous PC society we live in. It's a commercial. It's funny. If anything, it pokes fun at homophobes. Really, don't these 'gay groups' that complained have anything better to do than complain about a humurous TV commercial?

Snickers shouldn't have pulled it on principle. It seems these days that whenever a so-called 'minority' group gets even slightly and disproportionately offended, the culprit at the end of their complaint always bows to the complaint. I wish someone would just say 'no' for a change.


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2463 times:

I am gay and thought they were hilarious, but I can aslo laugh at myself. F*** 'em if they can't take a joke.


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

I knew that advert would cause controversy, but I'm surprised it's groups like GLAAD that are complaining. I initially thought it's the FCC that's pulling the plug on it when I saw the thread title.

User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20550 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2463 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
One of the alternate endings on the Snickers Web site showed the men attacking each other.

According to the interview on CNN with a representative with GLAAD, the two men were attacking each other with wrenches, which *could* be reinforcing hate crimes, a much different set of circumstances than pulling out some of one's own chest hair.

Too bad the Detroit paper didn't report the entire story.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
A commercial for Snickers candy bars launched in the Super Bowl broadcast was benched after its maker got complaints that it was homophobic.

M&M Mars happens to be one of the most right wing companies in the country and has been known to put hidden messages in its commercials before. There was actually a lot of talk in the political community about an ad done during the Gore-Bush campaign that had subtle political messages in it.



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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

I saw that the other day, and just went, 'huh'? Wasn't really funny, but wasn't in any way offensive to my 'gay' sensibilities either.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 3):
Snickers shouldn't have pulled it on principle. It seems these days that whenever a so-called 'minority' group gets even slightly and disproportionately offended, the culprit at the end of their complaint always bows to the complaint. I wish someone would just say 'no' for a change.

Agree with you there - it would've been better just to ignore it.



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User currently offlineAdh214 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

Gee, I saw the version that aired on the Super Bowl (the chest hair version) and as a gay man I was not offended.

Frankly, I think straight auto mechanics should be offended. They are the ones portrayed as:

1. unable to control themselves and eat a candy bar that your coworker is already eating,
2. so horrified by the prospect of their lips touching another man's lips they resort to self mutilation to compensate

I thought it was quite funny and have no problem continuing to buy Snickers bars. I have not seen the wrench beating version so I can't comment on that ad.

Andrew


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20550 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

From the GLAAD, Matthew Shepard Foundation press release:

http://www.glaad.org/media/release_detail.php?id=3970

Mars’ campaign Web site (www.snickerssatisfies.com) shows alternate endings for the ad – among them, a version called “Wrench” where, instead of ripping out their own chest hair, one man grabs a wrench and uses it to bash the other, who responds by slamming the hood of the car down on his head.  Mars is asking visitors to vote on this and three other endings – including the one aired on the Super Bowl telecast – to determine which version will air during the Fox broadcast of the Daytona 500 on Sunday, Feb. 18.

[...]

“I am outraged that Mars, the NFL and these players would promote such an anti-gay message. This campaign encourages the same type of hate that led to the death of my son Matthew. It essentially gives ‘permission’ to our society to verbally or physically harass individuals who are gay, lesbian or bisexual,” said Judy Shepard, Executive Director of the Matthew Shepard Foundation. “In particular, I am dismayed that these players, who are role models to our young people, would participate in perpetuating such discrimination and prejudice.”


Apparently Mars overreacted and pulled the entire campaign, instead of just what most would find offensive. I thought the commercial that did air was just fine.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

from the article...

""This type of jeering from professional sports figures at the sight of two men kissing fuels the kind of anti-gay bullying that haunts countless gay and lesbian school children on playgrounds all across the country," Human Rights Campaign president Joe Solmonese said in a statement."

HUH??? Did he just really say that?

Really? Gay and Lesbian school children on the playgrounds? Are you serious? When I was "playground" age, all I could care about was how fast I could get on the swings or sliding board.. and I still remember to this day the time all the girls tackled me and kissed me.. it was the worst day of my life (AT THE TIME).... when I was playground age I hated girls, like every other boy on the playground... today for me, well, that's a much different story.
Are you trying to tell me that at playground age boys and girls already know they are gay or lesbian?

What a freakin joke. You know, Human Rights people would have more clout if they didn't speak from their rear-end so much...



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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 11):
Human Rights people would have more clout if they didn't speak from their rear-end so much...

So much? Care to provide some backup to that? HRC has been and continues to be one of the most effective political voices for Gays & Lesbians. Like any politically active group, they're going to occasionally take stands that are a little 'out there', like this one, but on the whole they are very good at remaining on message.



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 11):
""This type of jeering from professional sports figures at the sight of two men kissing fuels the kind of anti-gay bullying that haunts countless gay and lesbian school children on playgrounds all across the country," Human Rights Campaign president Joe Solmonese said in a statement."

HUH??? Did he just really say that?

Are you for real?

The kind of bullying and hatred that gay kids experience at school is very real, leads to incredibly high rates of suicide (gay teens have the highest suicide rates in the country) and can't be compared to some girls joshing you.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 11):
Are you trying to tell me that at playground age boys and girls already know they are gay or lesbian?

Uhhh, yes. Welcome to the real world, Ms. Hilton.

Many of us didn't know the word "gay" or "lesbian," but we sure as hell knew what we felt, and that we were different. And oddly enough, so did the other kids. You're trying to tell me that by the time you were 12, you never noticed that some kid in class was more effeminate/didn't like sports/was quiet?


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2368 times:

It's a poke at homophobia and GLAAD is just looking for another fight... like any other group of people pitching a fit when they don't get their way all the time.


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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12103 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2369 times:
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Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 4):
I am gay and thought they were hilarious, but I can aslo laugh at myself. F*** 'em if they can't take a joke.

I have to agree.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12103 posts, RR: 49
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2352 times:
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Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
M&M Mars happens to be one of the most right wing companies in the country and has been known to put hidden messages in its commercials before. There was actually a lot of talk in the political community about an ad done during the Gore-Bush campaign that had subtle political messages in it.

You might have something here, just the other day I had a whole bag and the M's were all W's! Scarey! W, i.e. George W Bush, OMG!

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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20550 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

Okay, let me ask everyone a question. If Mars had put up alternate ads where two Jews turned into Christians by eating a Snickers bar, then one hit the other with a wrench and then got his head slammed with a car hood, that would be equally acceptable? Or perhaps set lions out after each other? Or maybe eating a Snickers bar turned them black and they went after each other physically? That would be okay with you guys?

Again, it's not the commercial that aired that was the problem. Mars overreacted and pulled the entire campaign when the alternate ending for visitors to their website could vote on was disputed.

::shaking head::



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2342 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 13):
Uhhh, yes. Welcome to the real world, Ms. Hilton.

Ouch.. that name calling really hurts... you should apologize...

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 13):
Are you for real?



Quoting Jaysit (Reply 13):
Many of us didn't know the word "gay" or "lesbian," but we sure as hell knew what we felt, and that we were different.

Yes.. I AM for real.. I'm not saying that a "gay" or "lesbian" doesn't feel different. What I'm saying is that a playground age child DOESN'T KNOW what SEXUALITY IS. Thus, not just me, but every little boy who naturally hates girls isn't sexually mature to know anything. THUS, by saying a playground age child can be offended by a "gay-bashing" commercial is just utter nonsense. A gay or lesbian child at the same age as a straight child have no difference in their sexual maturity, thus, for this "human rights" activist to use it as a defense to back his stance against an anti-gay ad is just BS. If you believe it, well fine. I for one, don't.
I for one simply look at a child as a maturing human. Children are born with the inability to speak. They learn this from 1-2 years, with limited vocabulary, then continue to learn all their life. This example of this "expert" is like trying to tell me that a 6 month year old heard a commercial with bad words in it and it was going to scar it for life. Sorry, a 6 month old cannot comprehend words.
And in this case, a "playground" aged child can not comprehend the difference between gay and straight sex.



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11588 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

One of the few Super Bowl ads I did see and, as a gay man, I did not (NOT) see it as a slam against gays. It was two guys in an akward place. The Super Bowl is overtly heterosexual. The commercial was funny to me just because of the dynamic. Some people have too much time on their hands!

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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20550 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 19):
Some people have too much time on their hands!

Okay, did you think the alternate ad on the Mars website showing the guys going after each other with a wrench and car hood, which again, was what was disputed, was equally funny?



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User currently offlineTransWorldSTL From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 11):
Are you trying to tell me that at playground age boys and girls already know they are gay or lesbian?

Yes!

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 18):
Yes.. I AM for real.. I'm not saying that a "gay" or "lesbian" doesn't feel different. What I'm saying is that a playground age child DOESN'T KNOW what SEXUALITY IS.

WRONG

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 18):
THUS, by saying a playground age child can be offended by a "gay-bashing" commercial is just utter nonsense.

WRONG.

As a kid in a Catholic Grade School, I can't even begin to count the number of times I was hurt by someone's saying "fag" or "gay" or when we were taught that being gay was wrong. If I was a grade schooler, and saw an anti-gay anything, I'd be completely hurt and offended by it. I knew what I was back then.


User currently offlineCsavel From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1362 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

As a straight male, *I'm* the one who should be offended. I mean it re-inforces the sterotype that straight men are boobs and are so afraid of being "gay" that they'll overcompensate in some stupid way.
But you know, I don't give a shit.
If people are offended, then don't buy the friggin' candy bars.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12103 posts, RR: 49
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2235 times:
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Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
Even I think that this is a bit over the top!
in case you missed it:

I have no problem with the ad they ran and this from a Gay man.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
One of the alternate endings on the Snickers Web site showed the men attacking each other.

Now that is pure and simple a hate crime ending.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12103 posts, RR: 49
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2226 times:
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Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 17):
Again, it's not the commercial that aired that was the problem. Mars overreacted and pulled the entire campaign when the alternate ending for visitors to their website could vote on was disputed.

::shaking head::

OK people READ before you post. Again the alternative ending is bad, commercial ran is good, alternative bad, ran good, alternative bad, ran good.



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25 Post contains images Fumanchewd : Great evidence to show that they are "right wing". John and Jacqueline Mars contribute quite a bit to the Republican party. I suppose that makes her
26 MDorBust : Has anyone here actually seen the alternate ending?
27 D L X : Let me guess: you are white, you are male, you are protestant, and you feel oppressed. How'd I do? Anyway, what we're apparently forgetting here is t
28 IFEMaster : Correct! Correct! Uh oh. Wrong! Uh oh. Wrong again! Not quite sure what your point was, but you scored 50%.
29 Post contains images LTBEWR : I saw this ad during the game. To me it had a 'yuck' factor, just stupid, silly and just one I would give a to. I didn't think of homosexual overtones
30 Pgh234 : I was offended by all of the "yay a black coach won the Super Bowl" talk and commercials. I believe that all people of all races should be encouraged
31 SKYSERVICE_330 : They are still running the ad in Canada, except the last part of it (the hair part) isn't in it. It ends with them kissing and the logo comes onto the
32 TransWorldSTL : It happens. Just like all of the movies about blacks being better than whites in sports, lately.. (case in point: the new swimming movie, where in th
33 Post contains images RJdxer : And ya know that P&G symbol is a sign from da DEBIL! Perhaps that explains why she is still married to Bill. She has to give him some leeway to get h
34 Post contains images AeroWesty : Perhaps next year, just for your enjoyment, they'll feature an ending you can vote on over the web with two black dudes tossing burning crosses on ea
35 Post contains images Searpqx : Oh that is so wrong on so many levels, and down right funny!
36 Graphic : The commercial sucked but not in a PC freak kind of way. More in the "I was drunk and it still wasn't that funny" way. Some people need to get a life.
37 TransWorldSTL : Actually, I learned about the subliminal messages in M&M ads, back in an economics class.. The one I most remember was a magazine ad for M&M's, where
38 RJdxer : Yeah, (insert name of male or female that most sets your hormones raging here) biting on the end of a candy bar winks and motions for you to take oth
39 AeroWesty : Why? You said that an example of a hate crime was funny. So I gave you an example of another one. Now suddenly you're offended.
40 RJdxer : Really? Then I guess the three stooges was just nothing but hate crime after hate crime. As I guess any other slap stick comedy would be then.
41 AeroWesty : The alternate ending, available on the web, that was the subject of the dispute, showed the two men kissing, then one going after the other with a wr
42 San747 : Wow... I must admit, when I read the title of this thread, I totally thought the opposite reason of why it was pulled! I thought some ultra-conservati
43 RJdxer : I saw that and if it wasn't slapstick then I don't know how you tell the difference between that and any three stooges film. It was pulled because on
44 AeroWesty : Times have certainly changed. There are a lot of schticks from the early part of the past century that wouldn't be acceptable today. If you thought t
45 RJdxer : I did not see someone going after someone else because they were gay, that is an assumption you are making. I saw two guys trying to show who could t
46 LH423 : Uhhhh...not quite. For starters, you're talking about 50 years ago. Sexual orientation was not even on anyone's radar. Stonewall was still 20 years a
47 Aeroflot777 : Nope.
48 Jmc1975 : That's a funny ad.....too bad it was pulled.
49 Boeing744 : I have basically the same opinion as AeroWesty on this. There was nothing wrong with the ad shown at the top of this thread (although it was stupid),
50 Luv2fly : Maybe it was done that way on purpose and not to send a subliminal message, everything does not have to be a conspiracy theory in the making.
51 RJdxer : Like the Chivas Regal ad that supposedly had the ice cubes forming a picture of people having sex? The type of comedy is the same whether it's 1937 o
52 Kevi747 : Yes. No. I guess. I agree that it's ridiculous to complain about this commercial being homophobic, but I would seriously question the mental capacity
53 LH423 : Of course, just as there are exceptions to every rule. But that's just it, back then for someone to be gay it was a big topic of discussion. Now, may
54 RJdxer : Which it should be today. Whom you sleep with ought to be nobodies business but your own. Mentioned as a great entertainer and author, also mentioned
55 AeroWesty : So those who are a bit, shall we say, flamboyant, should try their best to "look and act normal in public" so you don't have to be reminded that ther
56 Searpqx : So, to extend your logic, we should work on eliminating Irish celebrations of St Patrick's day, as well as Italian celebrations of Columbus Day corre
57 Post contains images AeroWesty :
58 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : First people taking offense to Tony Dungy's Christian remarks and now this. Exactly. I nearly roll on the floor from Leno's Bush/Cheney/Republican/etc
59 AirframeAS : I'd be telling those groups that its too late now, the ad was ran during the SuperBowl and everybody saw it! This is why EWRCabinCrew is my HERO!
60 HUYguy : As a gay man, I didn't find that advert funny nor offensive. I would have thought though, that the thing that gay people would be complaining about wo
61 MDorBust : I'll ask again, has anyone here actually seen this alternate ending?
62 ClassicLover : Please... Storm in a teacup. However, I wish the people at GLAAD would shut their holes. I read the other day that "gay community leaders, GLAAD..." -
63 Zippyjet : Give me a break! I'm suprised back in the day, no one bitched about the candy commericial: You got my peanut butter in my chocolate!
64 IFEMaster : Hmmm...well, back in my day, there was a commercial that stated: "A finger of fudge is just enough to give the kids a treat."
65 Post contains links AeroWesty : Sorry, I didn't see your question the first time. Yes, I saw it. It's no longer up at www.snickerssatisfies.com or I would have downloaded it to post
66 RJdxer : I don't see how you can extend it that way. Do gays have identifiable names now like Murphy, or Genovizzi? Is there an important gay person who has d
67 MDorBust : Since you have seen it, perhaps you could answer some questions about the add. Did the two mechanics upon having kissed and thinking they did somethi
68 AeroWesty : From what I recall, the same words "quick, do something manly" were spoken, same as in the ad which aired. It didn't seem "manly" to me to beat up an
69 Post contains images Searpqx : The analogy fits very well. Just because you can't look at someone and see they are gay doesn't make them any less part of a community. Nationality f
70 AeroWesty : Okay, since I was the only one who apparently saw the truly controversial alternate ending, I went hunting for the clips again. By using different key
71 RJdxer : And how is the wrench version any different than this....
72 AeroWesty : I didn't see anything in your clip that inspired them from having kissed each other and having to do something to "offset" the result. The Three Stoo
73 RJdxer : Ok. Whatever. I only spent over a decade putting ads together and have several awards on my wall. I'd say spitting and then saying I'm poisoned then h
74 AeroWesty : Except the gags are out of order in the two clips. In the Three Stooges clip, they're intentionally kissing and making up as "no hurt feelings" appea
75 D L X : You have to be kidding. The violence was so obviously in response to being repulsed by doing something gay. Your bragging isn't that impressive, man,
76 Jamincan : Since some people have such a hard time figuring this out, this commercial is distasteful because it seems to suggest that extremely violent behaviour
77 RJdxer : Yes I have. Produced, directed, and even starred in a couple. All local, nothing national, although some of my rough ideas have been used in national
78 AeroWesty : Sugar, I always feel good. I never did think that someone who could justify vandalizing a car or hotel to understand this issue, so you've lived up t
79 Post contains images RJdxer : Keep bringing them up, brings back good memories everytime. I have no problem with what I did. At least I know that I'm willing to defend a fellow ci
80 Post contains links and images Pilotdude09 : Thats a cool and sad ad. Been looking at all the superbowl ads on www.youtube.com/superbowl and some of them are just excellent.
81 D L X : So have plenty of other ad agencies that made a "mistake." You have passing knowledge of creating an ad, but we all have knowledge about what is and
82 Jaysit : A lot of gay boys ARE effeminate and show a lack of interest in sports. Those who aren't and who are athletic, can hide their gayness much more easil
83 RJdxer : It won't, I have two happy hetrosexual young ladies in the house. Their walls are adorned with pictures of young male movie, tv, and music stars. You
84 RJdxer : Never said I did. You're confusing the issue. Slapstick genre is still an ok device to get your message across. Take a look at a few beer ads for sta
85 D L X : What's "the field?" Sorry dude, but your experience with making a commercial doesn't mean you're more expert on what is offensive and what isn't. Eve
86 RJdxer : So today is Friday, I forget, will you be head chef at the Four Seasons today, oh I forgot speedweeks kicked off at Daytona yesterday, you'll be busy
87 Srbmod : Since some of you are trying to turn this thread into the direction of bashing other members, it is now being locked.
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