Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8357 posts, RR: 47 Posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 568 times:
Hi all!
Recently, I started milling the black pepper I use instead of buying it milled. I noticed several worlds of difference in the taste, and that got me thinking about the coffee I like to drink.
I usually make small portions, no more than two cups at a time, using a French press. I still buy my coffee milled, and to be honest it could sometimes be better. So how much of a difference would I notice if I had a mill and bought the beans instead of the powder?
thanks for your time,
aloges
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Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 549 times:
I agree with ANCFlyer! The difference is night and day.
Lutenist From Canada, joined May 2005, 280 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 548 times:
If you really want to do it right, get an electric bur mill (not a hand-turned mill, as you might find it too slow). Each bean passes through the bur mill once, which makes for an even ground. Also, the bur mills tend not to heat the bean, as do impellor grinders.
Impellor grinders are not ideal, as beans that have been ground continue to be smashed by the impellor, which causes uneveness--i.e., some course ground and some fine ground.
I did so as well but a few years ago switched to buy it un-milled at mill it in those machines at the exit of decent supermarkets. It is much better that way.
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Alright, in the 50ies, everybody had one of those wooden coffee mills at home to do it daily.
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Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8357 posts, RR: 47 Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 536 times:
Seems like you're all in agreement, I'll probably start saving for a mill then.
Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 4): Alright, in the 50ies, everybody had one of those wooden coffee mills at home to do it daily.
That's exactly what I'm thinking about, a Peugeot mill in particular. My pepper mill is a Peugeot model and I'm very pleased with it, I'm also a bit of a sucker for high(er)-end kitchen tools.
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Pelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2530 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 521 times:
Quoting Aloges (Thread starter):
I usually make small portions, no more than two cups at a time, using a French press. I still buy my coffee milled, and to be honest it could sometimes be better. So how much of a difference would I notice if I had a mill and bought the beans instead of the powder?
I would recommend you to go to a Tschibo shop and try fresh milled coffee. They mill it there for you.
ME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13874 posts, RR: 28 Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 512 times:
Quoting Pelican (Reply 8): try fresh milled coffee. They mill it there for you.
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right, in some places they mill it for you, in others you can do the milling there with a machine of them. Except that Tchiba in my view is too weak.
Kmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 508 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1): I never use pre-ground coffee. It's ground right before I use it, I prefer a very fine grind. There's no mistaking the difference.
Do it . . . you'll never be sorry.
Absolutely!! I flatly refuse to buy pre-ground now....it tastes like crap compared to feshly-ground.
When buying your beans, though, make sure that they gleam with natural oils, or else you may as well be buying cans of (ewww) Maxwell House.
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Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 479 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1): I never use pre-ground coffee. It's ground right before I use it, I prefer a very fine grind. There's no mistaking the difference.
The problem with the ground coffee you buy in the stores is that the packages are prone to lose their seal (especially those in vacuum sealed packages). Once air gets into ground coffee, the quality begins to go down. Now the fractional pack coffee is better because each pack is a set amount and the packs have nitrogen pumped in which also helps to keep the coffee fresher longer. But like the vacuum sealed packs you see in the stores, they too can have their seals fail as well (especially if they pump too much nitrogen into the packs and the end up popping their seals due to pressure.).
One important thing to remember with coffee is that air and moisture are coffee's two worst enemies. This is true with ground coffee and with beans. So make sure the container the beans are stored in has a vacuum seal that won't let air or moisture in.
As for a grinder, a burr mill is the way to go. Here's a site that has numerous reviews on grinders and other coffee-related products:
Kmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 469 times:
Oh yeah, one other thing...don't EVER store your coffe beans in the fridge or freezer. That's a sure-fire way of drying up all those lovely natural oils that keep the flavor so good. Store them at room temperature in an airtight container and only grind what you need.
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