S12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1457 times:
Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as: Knowing when to come in out of the rain; Why the early bird gets the worm; Life isn't always fair; And Maybe it was my fault.
Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you can earn), and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge).
His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6 year old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; Teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; And a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student only worsened his condition.
Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children. It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer sun lotion or a band-aid to a student; But could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband; Churches become businesses; And criminals received better treatment than their victims. Common Sense took a beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a burglar in your own home because the burglar could sue you for assault.
He seemed to recover slightly when a restaurant customer was forbidden to light up a cigarette due to possible endangerment of the other patron's health, but took another turn for the worse when that same customer was encouraged to carry a concealed weapon.
Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.
Common sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; His wife, Discretion; His daughter, Responsibility; And his son, Reason. He is survived by his 3 stepbrothers; I Know My Rights, Someone Else Is To Blame; and I'm A Victim.
Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone. If you still remember him, pass this on. If not, join the majority and do nothing.
777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1432 times:
So you're harping back to the 'good ol'' days of common sense in, what? The 80s? With spectre of nuclear war looming over the world? 60s and 70s, with the common sense of the Vietnam war? 50s, with mass hysteria about Communism? 40s, with the common sense-induced slaughter of 6 million innocent people? The 30s that saw the rise of Nazism? The 20s in which the KKK was formed? The 10s in which 'The War To End All Wars' took place?
Your (stolen) sentimental diatribe mourns something that never existed.
PanAmOldDC8 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 960 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1410 times:
Quoting S12PPL (Thread starter): Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone. If you still remember him, pass this on. If not, join the majority and do nothing.
Well said. Wonderful piece and how very true. If we had more common sense may be we would have a better world. I remember years ago when common sense prevailed and how much better it was in some respects. I remember a comment from and old Bajan man once "Common sense beats book sense any day"
Did I ever claim this was an original statement by me? Hell, something similar to this was posted 4 years ago on here. I just found it interesting....Sorry you find it so horrible.
PanAmOldDC8 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 960 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1351 times:
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 2): Your (stolen) sentimental diatribe mourns something that never existed.
That is a totally uncalled for statement, if you disagree say it, but not in a vindictive way. We set a standard by which we should all follow, not led down into a unnecessary diatribe.
Rara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 1847 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1307 times:
I'm with 777236ER here (except for the 'stolen' statement).
In the past, we behaved equally stupid, and in many ways much more so.
We just didn't call BS all the time, and generally made it look better.
When I hear people complain about the loss of "common sense", it more often than not refers to some judicial proceedings whose complexity they don't grasp, or new social realities that just don't appeal to a conservative mind.
Samson was a biblical tough guy, but his dad Samsonite was even more of a hard case.
777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1303 times:
Quoting S12PPL (Reply 5): Did I ever claim this was an original statement by me?
You never gave it a reference, and posted it under your own username.
Quoting PanAmOldDC8 (Reply 6): if you disagree say it, but not in a vindictive way.
I did say how I disagreed. I also pointed out that the entire post was copied, verbatim, from someone else, without reference. Stealing, if I'm not mistaken.
Rara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 1847 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1294 times:
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 8): I also pointed out that the entire post was copied, verbatim, from someone else, without reference. Stealing, if I'm not mistaken.
Well well. There was no indication that he claimed ownership to the text.
I found it pretty obvious that it was just quoted from someplace else.
Samson was a biblical tough guy, but his dad Samsonite was even more of a hard case.
S12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1277 times:
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 8): I did say how I disagreed. I also pointed out that the entire post was copied, verbatim, from someone else, without reference. Stealing, if I'm not mistaken.
MDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1260 times:
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 8): You never gave it a reference, and posted it under your own username.
Although it is standard to source material that isn't of original creation... is it really a point of contention here? A simple google search pulls up hundreds of different copies of this text. Finding the original author at this point is quite impossible. This has quite truly become another piece of weblore.
777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1215 times:
Quoting S12PPL (Reply 12): Dude...you are taking this so personal.
Not at all.
Quoting S12PPL (Reply 12): acknowlage, and admit I copied it word for word from something I was given. I'm not a terrible person for that....
Yet you didn't in your opening post.
Quoting MDorBust (Reply 14):
Although it is standard to source material that isn't of original creation... is it really a point of contention here?
No of course it's not, and I'm not the one who made it into a big deal - I used one word in parenthesis. Still, it's shurely common sense to cite a refence when quoting someone else verbatim?
Petty insults aside, what's common sense? The implication of the opening post is that there was an era where they where common sense reigned, but no one can say what the era was. Certainly it wasn't in this or the last century, and I can't quite see how it could be before that.
PanAmOldDC8 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 960 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1208 times:
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 16): Petty insults aside, what's common sense
It was not an insult, it was a fact. You don't seem to have got the twist of what was being said. Common sense is a fact of life, if you haven't got it yet then there is still time for you to get it. It is a very simple thing, when you know the right direction to go in with out the Government or anyone telling you or leading you by the hand and dictating to you what and what you should or should not do. It is very simple really. It is yourcommon sense to go the diretion you and feel is right. Not be lead by other people. Hope that explains it for you
777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1185 times:
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Quoting The Free Dictionary:
Sound judgment not based on specialized knowledge; native good judgment
So given the completely different definition to what PanAmOldDC8 suggested, does that mean that he doesn't have common sense?
That definition is still as vague as it can be, with no explaination of what 'sound judgment' is. To some people, 'sound judgment' would be not fitting a lid that's too big to a cup of coffee designed to be drunk while driving. To other people, 'sound judgment' would be not drinking coffee while driving. Can you name one single there that's universally accepted as 'good judgment'?
This isn't nitpicking, it's the entire point of the opening post.
RobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4507 posts, RR: 10 Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1177 times:
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 21): Can you name one single there that's universally accepted as 'good judgment'?
No. Not off the top of my head. But then I don't feel the need to. It's common sense not to waste time arguing about it when I have other things to do.
777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1171 times:
Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 22): It's common sense not to waste time arguing about it when I have other things to do.
Yet you've posted four times in this thread!
There is no 'native good judgment', 'universal truth' or 'common sense', and there certainly wasn't a golden era where everyone had intrinsic common sense.