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User currently offlineACFA From Canada, joined Feb 2007, 261 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5691 times:

So, I just recently started a course at ERAU online. I've heard many good and bad things about the school, but not so much on their online program. For one thing, the online option is wayy cheaper than their campus tuition fees. I choose it because I am working as an FA as well as on my pilot training at the same time. So I don't have much time to attend campus; the flexibility of distance education works in my favour.

My question is this: Are online degrees less valuable? Also, if anyone could give me any insight into ERAU Online, I would much appreciate it  Smile

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User currently offlineTransWorldSTL From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5685 times:

Quoting ACFA (Thread starter):
My question is this: Are online degrees less valuable? Also, if anyone could give me any insight into ERAU Online, I would much appreciate it Smile

I would think, in the end it won't matter much, because the degree should be the same... But, it could make it harder to understand the information, because I would guess it would be harder to get help with things you didn't understand.. I guess it just depends on how you learn.. In a lot of situations, I prefer to have someone in front of me teaching me hands on..


User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5665 times:

I did 3 years at the Daytona campus and I'm finishing my last few classes via the online "campus". I did this because I took an internship/job and didn't want to be a semester behind. Like you said, it's so much cheaper online than it is at the residential campus. I almost regret not doing the whole thing online if I realized how cheap it would have been. The online classes seem to last a few weeks less than the ones on campus, but as strange as it sounds, I've learned as much here as I did on campus. While there isn't anyone actually teaching you the material, they make the assignments and discussions so you do pick it up.

As for the degree, it's still a typical ERAU degree... There are no footnotes: "oh but they took online classes" so you don't have to worry about anyone thinking less of it. Now if you earned a degree from say the University of Phoenix online school, then maybe that would be different. ERAU is accredited and obviously is well known so your degree would be respected.


User currently offlineGunships From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5627 times:

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 2):

The University of Phoenix is also accredited.


User currently offlineBravo45 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2165 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5586 times:

Quoting ACFA (Thread starter):

Thanks a lot for starting the thread, I had exactly the same question. Have you asked ERAU if your degree would be any different than those who go through the campus? I am trying to make up a routine and then start most probably online, ERAU would be great but I have the same concerns, and had it not been for your thread, I would have soon started one.

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 2):
As for the degree, it's still a typical ERAU degree

Did you specifically ask them? This sounds really good to me. I am not familiar with the University of Phoenix, looks like they do have both online and campus courses, not sure if their degree is any different. ERAU is good, and if what you say about the degree is true, then that ends my search of where to go.


User currently offlineACFA From Canada, joined Feb 2007, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5574 times:

Well, the degree you get does not say it is done online. However, the program I'm in (Professional Aeronautics) is only offered online. The campus program is called Aeronautical Science. So if someone were really familiar with the university, they could tell if you did your degree online from the name of the program. I just don't know if they would give it an equal value.

Nonetheless, the benefits of the flexibility are too great for me to ignore. I can't hinder my flight training or employment by attending campus.

Bravo45, I basically have the same concerns as you, but as I mentioned, the benefits are too great for me to ignore. I plan to go back to my local university and finishing up my degree in Political Science on a part time basis after I start getting flying jobs. ERAU allowed me to transfer my Poli Sci. credits over, and they will give me 34 credit hours for my PPL/M-IFR/CPL as well, so basically I only have 60 credit hours to complete. Not too shabby if you ask me.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5573 times:

If you are going to do an online degree, you need to go through a recognized "Brick and Mortar" college like EARU. Otherwise it is junk.

As mentioned you are awarded a degree from that school.

Also I think that online or distance programs have been more accepted for post-grad work such as masters degrees.



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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4882 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5543 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 6):
If you are going to do an online degree, you need to go through a recognized "Brick and Mortar" college like EARU. Otherwise it is junk.

Spot on. If not you have zero credibility. In fact if I wanted I could probably get a Ph.D in Thuganomics from the State University of Liberia for $10 and graduate tomorrow based on my existing knowledge.

I would also say that perception of potential employers matters. Don't hide it from them but don't scream it either.

YOWza



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5515 times:

The other thing is that on 4 year programs a lot of students are starting to take on-line based courses through their schools to avoid the hassels of trying to deal with the endless fees that universities now charge.

Also in the case of my brother he is taking an on-line class because the local campus doesn't offer it (The UofAk system has several campuses accross the state)



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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5507 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):
The other thing is that on 4 year programs a lot of students are starting to take on-line based courses through their schools to avoid the hassels of trying to deal with the endless fees that universities now charge.

On campus, I was paying about 40k a year including flight training...Online I pay about 500-600 per class which isn't even close to how much I was paying before.

The reason I transfered to the online campus is because I had finished my flight training at ERAU, and received a year long paid internship. There was no question for me to finish up online, and so far it's been great. As others have said, you are getting a B.S. degree (most people go for the Professional Aero. degree) from the accredited, well-known, ERAU. In my experience, employers have had no problem with me taking classes online, however in my case I am "finishing my degree online", not "earning my entire degree online"... I don't think employers will have a problem with either though.

Classes are about 12 weeks and each week there is generally some sort of work/reading that will take about an hour per class--not bad at all. In addition to the weekly work are a midterm and final (online, open book obviously), and some classes might have a minor paper to write. Overall the work is not that rough, much less than it is on campus, however I would still say that I learned about the same amount online vs. campus. Every class empasizes inter class discussion and class participation is a good part of the grade.

Advice:
1) They don't offer every class, every semester so plan your classes out so you don't get stuck waiting a semester to take a class you need.
2) Stagger your schedule... Instead of taking 4 classes at a time, take 2 one semester and 2 another. The start dates may only be a month apart, but you'll save yourself from getting overwhelmed at once.
3) Buy your books online, not through the campus...they will overcharge you
4) Don't fall behind on the work... It's easy to do since you aren't forced to go to class, but make sure to stay where you should be.


User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5503 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 6):
If you are going to do an online degree, you need to go through a recognized "Brick and Mortar" college like EARU. Otherwise it is junk.

Well, that's something of a matter of opinion. As it happens the two schools that I teach for have brick and mortar divisions althought they are primarily online.

It offers a lot to people who for whatever reasons can't attend a brick and mortar school. I have had students serving in Iraq who took my classes and also students in places like Dutch Harbor, for one in your neighborhood. A lot of these folks are also serving in the military or working strange hours.

they do fill a need but I'd say they must be accredited by a recognized regional or national body to be worthwhile. Some degrees are useless if they're not earned traditionally, like law.


User currently offlineBravo45 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2165 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5453 times:

Quoting ACFA (Reply 5):
Bravo45, I basically have the same concerns as you, but as I mentioned, the benefits are too great for me to ignore.

Exactly the way I see it.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 6):

Agreed

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 9):
3) Buy your books online, not through the campus...they will overcharge you

lol
No surprises there. Thanks a lot for giving an overview of how they work.

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 10):
Well, that's something of a matter of opinion.

I totally understand and agree that its a debate, but the undisputed fact is that the well named colleges are better. And since their online courses are unbelievably cheaper compared to their campus courses, I can't think of a reason now as to why someone can't attend them other than two possible concerns; Can one apply for financial aid/loans for online courses? Or do you have to get to their test centers for exams etc? (There maybe thousands of locations around the globe but it can be a serious limitation)

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 9):
I had finished my flight training at ERAU

I bet 'Ouch!' would be my reaction to their rates which I am sure I must have come across somewhere. How was it in terms of scheduling? I hear since they are busy, its hard to get good schedule late for both aircraft and instructor. Were there any limits on weekly or monthly hours or flights you could take? I have not flown at any university so far, so I don't speak from experience but weighing what I came across in my research, I concluded campus courses might be a better idea than flying on campus. IMO the best and maybe the only advantage will be contacts. What's been your experience?

[Edited 2007-02-26 07:05:59]

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