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Dumbest Fashion Trend You Have Seen.  
User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6084 posts, RR: 29
Posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3186 times:
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I have seen some dumb fashion trends. I have even participated in a few, remember MC hammer style pants?. Yesterday I may have seen the dumbest of them all. One of my students came into class yesterday wearing glasses. He had not worn glasses previously. I asked him : "Tremaine I didn't know you had bad eyesight" He told me he didn't. He showed me his glasses and they were a fine pair of Cartiers, but the lenses were plastic. I ask him why : " Becasue they look cool and everyone does it" I didn't belive him. Who would do such a thing. It turns out that a lot of kids at my school wear glasses with no prescription because the designer frames look cool. This may be the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Most people, including me, that wear eye glasses don't really want to wear them. We have to in order to see. When I was in Jr High school some kids wore their pants backwards. I thought that was dumb, but hey, you still have to wear pants. I don't get wearing glasses to look cool.

Does anyone else know of some dumb fashion trends? I am sure that different parts countries and different parts of the world have some wildly different trends. Did anyone here participate in some trends that they are not too proud of?


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User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

That's easy....oversized trousers with underwear sticking out of the back, and the crotch hanging down somewhere between the calves. DUMB!!!! Not to mention unattractive...give me a man in a well-fitted pair of jeans any day. YUM


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User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3159 times:

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 1):
That's easy....oversized trousers with underwear sticking out of the back, and the crotch hanging down somewhere between the calves. DUMB!!!!

Amen, Sister! Although, it does make it easier for those of us in law enforcement to catch 'em when they're running while holding their britches up.  Smile

Other moronic fashion faux pas...

- baseball caps on any way but forward (backward is OK if you're shooting pictures or rifles)
- fur-trimmed snow boots
- neckties tied too short
- sunglasses after dusk


User currently offlineHeavyMx1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 305 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3156 times:

When I was younger I can remeber kids would wear jumpers and only hook one strap over their shoulder and leave the other one hanging. I confess I did this my self too, and look back on it as pretty silly now.


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3151 times:

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 1):
That's easy....oversized trousers with underwear sticking out of the back, and the crotch hanging down somewhere between the calves. DUMB!!!! Not to mention unattractive...give me a man in a well-fitted pair of jeans any day.

The worst . . . . I can't even call it a "fashion" trend. Just ignorance run amok.

Like IAH777 says, it does make catchin' the bad guy easier when his drawers are falling down round his ankles . . .

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 2):
- baseball caps on any way but forward

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Quoting IAH777 (Reply 2):
- fur-trimmed snow boots

 irked 
I'm keeping mine. They're seal and I ain't getting rid of 'em.


User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3506 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3150 times:

Tight pants on any girl who is overweight by at least 20lbs+. Guy to Girl: Your not sexy or hot when you've got a rolls royce hanging over the sides of your pants. :eek:

Shorts down to mid-calf. Kinda defeats the purpose. Once again back to the "crotch down low" look.



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User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3151 times:

Capri pants have been sticking in my craw for the past couple of years. Women wear them all the time in warm weather, yet they only look good on about 1% of the population. I can't believe women actually want to wear something that makes their legs look stubby and their hips look wide.

Why do I care if I don't wear them? Because capri pants are practically all you find in stores in the spring, so I have limited options.


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3151 times:
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Quoting IAH777 (Reply 2):
sunglasses after dusk

Or people driving with them on top of their head, WTF??

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 1):
That's easy....oversized trousers with underwear sticking out of the back, and the crotch hanging down somewhere between the calves. DUMB!!!!

First thing I thought of too.

Others... torn jeans, string vests, leg warmers......



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User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3207 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

I'd say those f*cking 'Poncho' things. They were retarded!



WTF!?!?



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8702 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

 rotfl  I agree with all the above!

I'll add shirts, especially polo shirts, with the collars up. ARGH!



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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3142 times:






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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3140 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 9):

How 'bout guys that wear hoods???  duck 


User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3130 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
I'm keeping mine. They're seal and I ain't getting rid of 'em.

If they're practical, I don't have a problem. But in Houston? In June? Methinks its just obnoxious.


User currently onlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 2):
- neckties tied too short

I hate this one too, but it's not really a trend, I think. It's probably people not being able to tie their ties properly, and not knowing that the tip is supposed to just reach one's belt buckle! Either one is a gentleman, or one is not.  duck 

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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 2):
- baseball caps on any way but forward (backward is OK if you're shooting pictures or rifles)

What if I'm standing in propwash waiting to unplug a GPU???


User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Quoting Doona (Reply 13):
the tip is supposed to just reach one's belt buckle

 thumbsup 

Also, a suit coat is to be fully-buttoned, wheras a sportcoat should be buttoned with the top button only, IIRC. One's shirt cuffs should extend beyond the coat by 1/2 inch. Trousers should reach just far enough to slightly break over the top of the foot. A coat fits correctly if there is approx. 1 inch off the shoulder. These should all be correct, unless fashion has changed (deteriorated) over the past 5 years.


User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3114 times:

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 14):
What if I'm standing in propwash waiting to unplug a GPU???

Penicillin should clear that right up.


User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9897 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3107 times:
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I pretty much hate any trend that ran through the sororities at USC.

The worst offenders were:

- wearing Uggs (those trendy winter boots with fur tops), especially when worn with skirts or miniskirts. WE'RE IN LOS ANGELES FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!! It's 80 goddamn degrees, and it's never gonna freakin snow! There is very little in my life that has pissed me off more than that trend.

- those giant sunglasses they all started wearing. Seriously, they look like the sunglasses you see 80-year-old women wearing.



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User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3103 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 7):
Or people driving with them on top of their head, WTF??

Eh, sometimes you have no where to put them.

I'd like to also add Von Dutch hats, stained denim jeans, logos on the outside. Team/college stuff can slide here and there. Case in point:


hot chick, ugly clothes.


oh, and crocs. eff crocs.


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8702 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3090 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11):
How 'bout guys that wear hoods???

White ones?  mischievous 



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6084 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3087 times:
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Quoting Andz (Reply 7):
torn jeans

I have a bunch of worn out jeans that I actually wore out and for some reason that is not stylish.

Quoting HeavyMx1 (Reply 3):
When I was younger I can remeber kids would wear jumpers and only hook one strap over their shoulder and leave the other one hanging. I confess I did this my self too, and look back on it as pretty silly now.

I remember that being cool in 1989-1990. A lot of kids at my Jr. high wore stuff like that.

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 2):
sunglasses after dusk

How about inside? There is a custodian at my work who does that. Everyone, including students, make fun of him.

Quoting Aloges (Reply 9):
I'll add shirts, especially polo shirts, with the collars up.

I haven't seen that in a while. For some reason I see a guy in his 1986 BMW 325i and is Bolle' sunglasses when I think of that trend.

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 2):
- baseball caps on any way but forward

Sometimes when they are cocked to the side or barley on the head it can mean gang affiliation. I know some of the different gang members at my work all wear their hat the same way. Different gang members wear their hats different.

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 5):
Tight pants on any girl who is overweight by at least 20lbs+. Guy to Girl: Your not sexy or hot when you've got a rolls royce hanging over the sides of your pants. :eek:

Could agree more. I not a big fan of women who have writing on their butts. Noting like seeing a plumper who has "sexy" or cutie written on their sweat pants.  vomit  If they are not fat they are usually not the friendliest people.

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 1):
oversized trousers with underwear sticking out of the back

I always tell my students. "If I wanted to see mens underwear I would stay at home and look in my underwear drawer"
 Silly

Any guys or girls here who pegged their pants in the 1980s? It was so cool. The tighter you rolled your jeans the cooler you were. Once some kids made fun of me because I had my pants cuffed at the bottom, in 1987. From that day out, up to about 1991, pegging of the pants was a must do at school.



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7948 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 1):
That's easy....oversized trousers with underwear sticking out of the back, and the crotch hanging down somewhere between the calves. DUMB!!!! Not to mention unattractive

Ahem, yes, yes and yes. Definitely.

But some adults cling on some weird fashion ideas that should have gone the way of the magnificent Archaeopteryx, too:

- Overweight women wearing leggins  yuck 

- Business men wearing trousers short enough to expose some pair of hairy ankles when sitting down.  no 

- Fine rib tank with golden necklace  scared 



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User currently offlineDSMflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3066 times:

Popped collars just scream "douchebag."

User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 5):
Tight pants on any girl who is overweight by at least 20lbs+. Guy to Girl: Your not sexy or hot when you've got a rolls royce hanging over the sides of your pants. :eek:

Actually, tight pants on an overweight male are just as bad.

Quoting Doona (Reply 13):
Quoting IAH777 (Reply 2):
- neckties tied too short

I hate this one too, but it's not really a trend, I think. It's probably people not being able to tie their ties properly, and not knowing that the tip is supposed to just reach one's belt buckle! Either one is a gentleman, or one is not

 checkmark 

And gents, if you are going to invest in a quality suit, shoes, and ties, don't buy your dress shirts in the bargain bin at Walmart. Nothing more tacky than a cheap white shirt and a business suit.

Almost as bad as 100% polyester trousers.


Quoting IAH777 (Reply 15):
Also, a suit coat is to be fully-buttoned, wheras a sportcoat should be buttoned with the top button only, IIRC.

Not in the US. Top button of a two button suit, top two buttons of a three button suit.


User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6084 posts, RR: 29
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3028 times:
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Quoting Nosedive (Reply 18):
I'd like to also add Von Dutch hats, stained denim jeans, logos on the outside. Team/college stuff can slide here and there. Case in point:

What is the deal with "stylish" people wearing big belt buckles. Those should be reserved for good ol' boys like me.

Quoting DSMflyer (Reply 22):
Popped collars just scream "douchebag."

What are popped collars?

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 14):
What if I'm standing in propwash waiting to unplug a GPU???

That would be fine. Work clothes should never be considered in fashion. A lot of my students wear Dickies work clothes, but only for the fashion. They refuse to get them dirty.



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25 Superfly : Why so many fashion cops? Why should anyone care what someone else wears?
26 Falstaff : I don't care what people wear I just wonder why they wear it. How do trends get started? What makes something "cool"? I like wrangler jeans because t
27 Post contains images Superfly : But at that time, you probably didn't look like an idiot. By 2007 standards, yes. Come to think of it, a mullet with the MC Hameer pants?......YIKES!
28 Halls120 : If you are talking about your time away from work, I could care less what you wear. But when you come to work, don't plan on expressing your individu
29 Yellowstone : A popped collar is when you flip your collar up, as in the picture in Reply 10. Generally worn by preppy California kids. My vote for the worst fashi
30 Post contains images Superfly : Halls120: I work in an very corporate environment. Everyone has to dress in suits and business attire. I am sick of these dry cleaning bills and weari
31 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : I can tolerate baseball hats worn incorrectly, but sagging is by far the most idiotic thing da boyz in da hood ever came up with with. Mark
32 Yellowstone : With the sagging pants thing, I remember the rule my church youth group leader once laid down before we went on a church service project. "Place your
33 AirTranTUS : Definitely that and the jeans that come from the store with holes and dirt markings. Why would someone pay money for clothes that look dirty and have
34 Post contains images Superfly : As far as the sunglasses at night trend goes, that's ALL Corey Hart's fault.
35 Post contains images Solnabo : Anyone remember Kriss Kross look with the jeans backwards!!! Jump.....Jump.... Micke//
36 Falstaff : No wonder my parents didn't want to take me places. Never seen it with Tighty-Whities... I am speechless I guess the ones the kids can pop out are ok
37 Post contains images Superfly : Damn, why did you have to remind us?
38 Columba : That is the look at every law faculty in Germany and is refered to as the "Juristen-Look" by students from othe faculties.
39 Post contains images Nosedive : I'd knew you'd crack superfly
40 Superfly : Acutally I think it would be cool if Falstaff grew a mullet and sported the MC Hammer look today. I'd praise him for being a non-conformist individua
41 Post contains images Searpqx : Same here. Dress code is pretty casual at work, and though I stick to Dockers & button down shirts most days, on Fridays I can occasionally be found
42 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : I can't understand why Guidos WANT to look like Guidos. Do they love being classified one notch above trailer trash?
43 Mdsh00 : YES!! I hated that trend and I'm glad my gf never took part in it. The only time she bought UGG's were when she got into school in New York.
44 Falstaff : While were at it remember ABC "Another Bad Creation" circa 1990. I went from being a non conformist to being a conformist. I listen to AM radio too.
45 Post contains images Duke : I second that Kmh, but particularly for girls! Maybe the situation is a little different in some places, but here in Prague, it is very hard to find
46 Toulouse : Exactly what came to mind as I saw the thread title. I can't stand that. I fully agree with you but with a change of sex from man to woman for me...
47 Kmh1956 : Yeah...and can you see what he's doing to his collar? That IS the polite term!!! I do agree, however. We had our annual audit a few weeks ago, and th
48 Post contains images Superfly : I disagree. I LOVE this trend!
49 Post contains images Andz : It's daytime, the sun is shining, put them on your f'ing nose!!
50 Falstaff : I can't say I mind too much either, but it just depends on who's butt crack and midriff were talking about.
51 Post contains images Superfly : Can't be selective with a free show. Everyone has different taste and I am sure we've all seen asses that we love and hate. I'd rather see more skin
52 Falstaff : I like a show too, but I love the look of a woman in a business suit. I like the mystery I guess. You are right, beggers can't be choosers. If ya' ev
53 Post contains images TransWorldSTL : Ads help, word of mouth, random decisions one day can lead to major trends. (I just particularly liked the Dolce & Gabbana Blowjob ad, so I used it a
54 Falstaff : I have never heard of that brand. Where did you see that ad?
55 Post contains images Superfly : Those can be sexy too. Believe it or not, I haven't got in to the strip club thing. Perhaps when I get older and married I may enjoy it more. I'd rat
56 Post contains links and images LTU932 : Aren't Guidos like a different version of UK chavs? Anyway...
57 Post contains images HPLASOps : You mean like this? I was thinkin about getting me a pair or two for my own collection! big to that. Why wear a hat if you aint gonna wear it right?
58 Superfly : Excuss me but isn't the term "Guidos" a deragatory term used against Italians? That is totally uncool to use those kinds of words, do you think?
59 Falstaff : I thought I have heard of every derogatory term, but that is a new one to me. I don't know why but I am fascinated by the things people call each oth
60 Post contains images Speedbird747BA : Dont even know what that is? Explain please. Thats f*cking retarded, IMHO. As for me, I like stuff that is mostly classic or simple. I dont go to gre
61 ShyFlyer : YES!! Here is my offering: Back when I was in high school, just after the "Kris Kross" backwards style was fading out, and the sag & bag was coming i
62 Post contains images Falstaff : Ann Arbor for sure... I am heading there tonight. For a class, not for fun...   Grab the bottom of your pant leg and pull it tight. Fold over the pi
63 Post contains images NorthStarDC4M : I can't believe no one mentioned this: Spandex maybe ok in swimware... not as full bodyware, and especially not on anyone with more than average weigh
64 Post contains images AustinAllison : One Word............EMO
65 TransWorldSTL : You've never heard of Dolce & Gabbana? I do believe that ad was a part of their Spring/Summer '05 ad campaign, thought I don't remember for sure.
66 Post contains links Nosedive : word of mouth, blowjob... nice pun. I still like the fake puma hummer ads more. Sneakers and Head
67 Evan767 : CROCS CROCS CROCS
68 Post contains images Fbgdavidson : Personally I've avoided all sorts of fashion fads, I don't feel the need to follow the crowd and can make judgements about what clothes I do and don't
69 IAH777 : YES! That's what I was referring to. Crocs are just as repulsive.
70 TransWorldSTL : The pattern is easily copied, so it was, so everyone began buying the ripoffs. Anyone who buys the real Louis Vuitton 'classic collection' bags is ju
71 Post contains links and images AsstChiefMark : They're emulating their idol, Minnie Pearl. Mark
72 Falstaff : My students tell me it is to show they are not knock offs. I see shirts and pants with that too. What the heck is EMO. I only know the two styles goo
73 Post contains images AAce24 :
74 Post contains images Vikkyvik : I thought so, but then I saw this: Something about ANCFlyer and Uggs just didn't ring true.....though, maybe...... Where's Lew when we need him?
75 Post contains images Zippyjet : Parachute pants make anyone look 30 pounds heavier and like you took a dump in them. Those big glasses in the mid to late 80's that the Pointer Siste
76 Mdsh00 : Although I've seen tons of skaters do that as well Superfly might come and pimp smack you for that comment!
77 Andz : Yeah I heard that the people who make knock off clothes have found that replicating the tags is beyond them.....
78 Post contains images Zippyjet : I'm well aware of this fact! But, even Superfly would probably agree with me that the Annie Hall look was major league puke worthy!
79 Post contains images Sovietjet : In no particular order: 1) Uggs....plain stupid IMO 2) North Face jackets...pretty much 80% of all the girls in my high school had them. They don't lo
80 MD11Engineer : Crewcuts have a certain advantage: It takes months until you'll need you next haircut and they are cheap (I actually manage to cut my hair myself, wi
81 Duke : DO YOU HAVE BEFORE/AFTER PICTURES?
82 Post contains images AAce24 : We can only hope not.
83 Post contains images Superfly : Zippyjet: Yes I will have to pimp slap you! The 1970s fashion was one of the best! By the way, those bartender outfits are from the 1980s., possibly e
84 Post contains images Bwest : The fac that all the girls wear t-shirts or blouses or whatever on top that is just a few centimeters to short to extend over the pants. If they're fa
85 Falstaff : I have a Falstaff Beer bar tenders vest from the 1970-75 era. It is made of the "finest fake leather". Sometimes I wear it if I am having a party. I
86 Seb146 : The one trend I despise and seems to be continuing is flip-flops with jeans and khakis. Could we not continue this tacky trend anymore? Please? They d
87 Gunsontheroof : If that's the dumbest thing you're seeing, you're doing alright. I'll throw in baseball caps with the brim still factory straightened and the hologra
88 DC10extender : The worst trend I have see are rich white male teenagers acting "gangsta" and teenage girls who wear tails. That is just retarded.
89 Post contains images Zippyjet : Don't get me started...you can see my Zippy Rants, in the hip hop thread. I actually Googled "Annie Hall" look and got that picture. That looked was
90 RNOcommctr : This one kind of goes along with the collar turned up on a polo shirt... seems the same kind of preppy/yuppie types in the 80's and 90's would put a s
91 Post contains images Asuflyer05 : The whole hip hugger and thong combo on big girls makes me naseous. Especially when they sit down, the shirt goes up a bit and the pants sink and all
92 Post contains images Aloges : Interesting, the one North Face item I own is a backpack that's pretty much indestructible. It's seven years old, been to all kinds of places, someon
93 Post contains images Kevi747 : That is the most unattractive trend to ever plague America's youth. The most disgusting thing of all are those skin tight "skinny jeans" the "emo" ki
94 Melpax : Ahh, the ugg boot. Before they became trendy in your neck of the woods, they were worn by men & chicks alike here back in the 80's, always worn in win
95 Post contains images AA777 : Uggs and Miniskirts. Hotpants and Stilettos. CROCS. UGH. Everytime I see these, I want to hurl. They are so ugly and foul looking. I do not CARE how c
96 Post contains images AAce24 : AGREED.
97 Jush : Yep and they look stupid and horrible. The second thing they wear are these ugly leather shoes which look like some indian moccassin. regds jush[Edit
98 Molykote : Ask your students why someone who created a fake ball cap couldn't also create a fake tag/sticker. Faking a $6,000+ Rolex is laughable. Faking a $20
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