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Dancing Ban Ruled Constitutional  
User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1120 times:

Fundy Christian Redneck Bible Belt state?

Not so much...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/23/dancing.banned.ap/index.html

Quote:
"Recreational dancing is not a form of expression protected by the federal or state constitutions," the court wrote.

Yeah, I couldn't believe it at first either, but apparently the SCOTUS agreed in the City of Dallas v. Stanglin case in 1989.

Baptist fundies win, I surrender.

/can't dance anyways.

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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1101 times:

We need Kevin Bacon for this one.


You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1068 times:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
We need Kevin Bacon for this one.

Absolutely. Haven't these people ever seen Footloose?


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1058 times:

Maybe they are just Holding Out For A Hero.

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1041 times:

OK, and what's the reason for banning dancing? I don't see the logic there, because the ban itself is totally ridiculous.

User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1036 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 4):
I don't see the logic there, because the ban itself is totally ridiculous

That's what Ren McCormack (Kevin B) wanted to know...



You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineTurbo7x7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 927 times:

This controversy has been going on in NYC for years now. It's a combination of NIMBY issues, politics, and economics.

Let's say you happen to live near a bar. That bar starts to hire a DJ on weekends to make more business. Loud, danceable music has an interesting way of making people drink more. You'll naturally get a somewhat louder and rowdier crowd that will party right until closing time. . . which is 4 AM in NYC. Those revelers might then hang out right outside the closed bar for a while longer, maybe smoke something illegal, maybe they have a loud sound system in their cars or make a ruckus while trying to flag down a taxi, etc. etc.

So it's not so much the dancing taking place in the bar that's the real issue, just all the other stuff that almost inevitably is associated with these spaces.

Eventually what happens is neighborhood forces come together to put legal pressure on the bar's owner until he relents.

Over the past decade, the city has been trying to "zone" the dancing spaces into mid-sized and large-sized lofts or warehouses way out on the west side of Manhattan or other non-residential areas. If they allow smaller sized bars in residential areas to have dancing without a "cabaret" license, they're just going to have to process and hear more complaints, send more cops out to patrol those areas, and so on. . .

So the cabaret license, and limiting in which sections such a license is even granted, has become an important tool in controlling nightlife, in addition to the liquor license.

But now, the city has an even more powerful weapon at its disposal. The latest thing that has struck absolute fear into the hearts of many bar and nightclub owners is the crackdown on underage drinking.

I don't really go out clubbing so this doesn't bother me that much, but the last time I went out, the huge bouncer at the entrance SCANNED my driver's license with some device. . . and then he took a picture of me with a professional camera.

FWIW, I'm 34 years old. My hair is thinning out on the top and I do not dress like a "hoodie."

My sister mentioned to me a couple of months ago, she was out with a friend on Sat. night and the bar was shut down by cops due to a bust on underage drinking.

So yeah, it's gotten kind of ridiculous, especially within the past six months.

[Edited 2007-02-25 01:51:13]

User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 927 times:

Who really wants to see some uncoordinated honky stock broker try to get down to 'My Humps'? No thank you.

User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3690 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 863 times:
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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 803 times:

America... The land of the freeeeheheheheeeeeeeeeeeeeee

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 800 times:

This ban was ruled constitutional in New York's court of appeal of first instance, not at the New York State Court of Appeals, which is their version of a Supreme Court. That means there are 2 layers left to go, assuming the Supreme Court granted the writ.

Quoting MDorBust (Thread starter):
but apparently the SCOTUS agreed in the City of Dallas v. Stanglin case in 1989.

That appears to be a tenous cite at best. That case was about licensing dance halls for minors between the ages of 14 and 18, not about generally allowing dancing in a bar.



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