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Your Country's Best Ever Leader?  
User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

As there´s a thread about your worst ever leader , I thought maybe an opposite thread would be interesting

Your Country's Worst Ever Leader? (by Mbj-11 Feb 24 2007 in Non Aviation)

So in your opinion who was the best ever leader of your country ?

IMO in Germany it was Willy Brandt , he was a friend of my father so I know pretty much about him and I think he was an incredible person !

yours ?

Konstantin

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User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Franklin Delano Roosevelt


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User currently offlineBoeing744 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1829 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

For Canada:

I think almost without question, Pierre Eliot Trudeau...

http://www.liceoberchet.it/ricerche/geo5d_04/America_Nord/Canada/immagini/trudeau.jpg



User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Thread starter):
Your Country's Best Ever Leader?

For me General PERON was the best ever leader in Argentina.But no doubt that EL CHE GUEVARA and EVA PERON were two nominated as well but the destiny was against them
Saludos LHStarAlliance and
Hasta la victoria siempre !

Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

I might be a little too young, but for me it would actually be Helmut Schmidt.... closely followed by Willy Brandt...

from a historical point of view Helmut Kohl would come to mind as well... the German as well as the European Unity are largely his merit... unfortunately he made some really bad decisions as well (especially when it comes to economy) so he doesn't really deserve this honor...



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

I'd have to say Konrad Adenauer when it comes to postwar Germany. As the first Federal Chancellor of Germany, he had a lot to do, and eventually accomplished a lot. He certainly had his flaws, but he has done a lot for our country, and made us respectable again.

However, looking back at when Germany was still a monarchy ruled by the Kingdom of Prussia, I'd have to say Emperor Wilhelm I. and Imperial Chancellor Otto Fürst von Bismarck (aka the Iron Chancellor) would be the best leaders of Imperial Germany. Bismarck was instrumental in convincing then King Wilhelm of Prussia to unite all other German states into one nation ruled under one Emperor for all Germans. They in a way laid the foundation for our current German nation, a nation which mostly held together despite having gone through The Great War and later abdication of Wilhelm II, the ups and downs of the Weimar Republic, the brutality and atrocities of the Third Reich, and the separation of East and West.


User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2042 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

Sir Roland T. Symonette


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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3427 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

Christoph Blocher  rotfl 

User currently offlineGAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 933 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1829 times:

Sitting Bull.
 bouncy 



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User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1819 times:

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 1):

 thumbsdown 

Unfortunately, WW2 pulled the US into war, though eventually victory, but, on the flipside, at least WW2 pulled the US out of the Depression.

Reagan is my vote.

-R


User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 2):
For Canada:

I think almost without question, Pierre Eliot Trudeau...

Good Work, Man, You Stole my Answer!  Smile I agree with that. He was an excellent leader for our country, and personally I think his son will make another good leader in the future!  Wink

Cheers
Carson



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User currently offlineMalmoaviation From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 385 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1793 times:

Tage Erlander, did build the wealthy Sweden, at his time the worlds third richest country.



Fredrik Reinfeldt, did save Sweden from the evil Socialdemocrats.


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1788 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Thread starter):
IMO in Germany it was Willy Brandt , he was a friend of my father so I know pretty much about him and I think he was an incredible person !

I am not so sure about Brandt....

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 3):
Saludos LHStarAlliance and
Hasta la victoria siempre !

hmmm, it looks like the comunist group in Airliners.net is founded.....

I think for germany it was Adenauer or even Kohl.

for Colombia the current president Uribe....

Venezuela;: anyone else than Chavez.



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 3):
For me General PERON was the best ever leader in Argentina.But no doubt that EL CHE GUEVARA and EVA PERON were two nominated as well but the destiny was against them
Saludos LHStarAlliance and
Hasta la victoria siempre !

Oh man , how right you´re !

Hasta la victoria siempre !

Quoting Avianca (Reply 12):
hmmm, it looks like the comunist group in Airliners.net is founded.....

yeah sure  Wink

Quoting Avianca (Reply 12):
I am not so sure about Brandt....



Quoting Avianca (Reply 12):
for Colombia the current president Uribe....

Haha you´re kiding right ?

Quoting Avianca (Reply 12):

Venezuela;: anyone else than Chavez.

Viva Chavez ! Viva Fidel !


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 13):
Haha you´re kiding right ?

of course not... Uribe did the last years a terrifc job!

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 13):
Viva Chavez ! Viva Fidel !

hmmm, I am wondering if you would say the same if you are living in Cuba or Venezuela.... and it would be neraly impossible for you to buy esencial food like, meet and sugar....



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1770 times:


Jawarlal Nehru


Indira Gandhi


Rajiv Gandhi


Manmohan Singh

regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 14):
hmmm, I am wondering if you would say the same if you are living in Cuba or Venezuela.... and it would be neraly impossible for you to buy escencial food like, meet and sugar....

In Cuba and Venezuela everybody has food , see for example "el mercal " in Venezuela food for everybody at low prices ...
In Cuba there´s no illiteracy and everyone has health care , many Europeans go to Cuba for operations ...

http://www.gobiernoenlinea.ve/misc-v...gros_en_Materia_Economica_2004.pdf

http://www.gobiernoenlinea.ve/misc-v...files/Logros_en_Materia_Social.pdf

http://www.gobiernoenlinea.ve/misc-v...ogros_en_Materia_Economica2005.pdf


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 16):
In Cuba and Venezuela everybody has food , see for example "el mercal " in Venezuela food for everybody at low prices ...

I see you have no clue.... El Mercal is just a joke that sells old and bad quality food (mostly just very basic food) and you have to wait hours in the line... really a great "shop"....

just a question, did you ever visit a mercal ?.... I assume not...



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

and don´t forget ... chavez was reelected with 62 % ...  Wink

User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1762 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 18):
and don´t forget ... chavez was reelected with 62 % ...

of course I will not forget it and I accept it... but it is also clear that at least 62% of the Venezuelan has a strange point of view...  Silly

yeah the system works really great here .... lol



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1757 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 18):
and don´t forget ... chavez was reelected with 62 %

Hola compañero ! what I dont understand why people dont want to recognise the fact that Chavez was reelected with 62% of votes with the presence of international observers

Saludos !

Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1757 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 19):
yeah the system works really great here .... lol

Yeah that´s right the system is working better then ever ! Thanks Chavez

and I think we should stop this discussion as we both have 2 completely different points of view and no one will change the other ones ...


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1755 times:

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 20):
Hola compañero ! what I dont understand why people dont want to recognise the fact that Chavez was reelected with 62% of votes with the presence of international observers

even if this message was not for me, I do recognise that he was reelected with 62%, more or less who really know it.... I am sure you not....

but it looks like you guys are on the same way that chaves is.... no opposition is allowed? As he was reelected I have to say he is a "great" president? of course not.



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1753 times:

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 21):
Yeah that´s right the system is working better then ever ! Thanks Chavez

asking you, are you living in Venezuela in order to say if its really better?

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 21):
and I think we should stop this discussion as we both have 2 completely different points of view and no one will change the other ones ...

why stop ??? maybe you can convince me ?
 Big grin



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1749 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 22):
but it looks like you guys are on the same way that chaves is.... no opposition is allowed? As he was reelected I have to say he is a "great" president? of course not.

No es verdad ! without opposition any society will collapse

Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
25 Avianca : pues si es asi, accept that many Venezueleans or expats living here do not like Don Hugo, even if he get 62% of the votes
26 Post contains images RootsAir : (rotfl)(rotfl) you better erase that or ZRH will ask for thread deletion, happend when I mentioned that a group of activists wanted to call ZRH Chris
27 Post contains images Avianca :
28 Cedars747 : Than you care more about the 38% ! Why that ? Alex!!!
29 Post contains images Pelican : I have to agree. I would even go so far as to say that Adenauer was the best German leader of modern times. He had a huge impact on German politics w
30 LHStarAlliance : eso ! Well but 62 of 100 like him ... It will not collapse but an opposition is not bad , this is democracy , now after the elections there´s a oppo
31 Cedars747 : Totally agree ! Alex!!!
32 Avianca : incorrect, Chavez is doing what he wants.... didn't he shows it with the decrees ? unfotunately I am not one of the richer guys in Colombia.... I am
33 Post contains images SandroZRH : Guess what: My post was sarcasm
34 RootsAir : you think I didn't notice?
35 Post contains images RootsAir : All Venezuelans Iknow hate Chavez...but guess why. They are amongst the fortunate social classes of the country and have lots of money. Unlike the va
36 Avianca : how many Venezuelans do you know? 20 ? 10 from anet and 10 elsewhere.... you can be sure there are still enough guys around, that are living in a Ran
37 LHStarAlliance : Well you at least fly ... the poor people don´t even have enough food ... That´s it ! Rich people in South America don´t care about the poor ... a
38 LHStarAlliance : 62% prove enough !
39 Post contains images Cedars747 : Couldn't agree more Alex!!!
40 TheCol : I think Lester B. Pearson was, by far, the best Prime Minister of Canada.
41 RootsAir : well quite a few Venezuelans live in GVA and others that actually live in VZL. Either because their parents work for the UN or have worked for the em
42 TransIsland : I remember the culture of charity in Germany... not. There may have been a welfare state once, but I'm sure glad I left the country before Hartz IV.
43 LHStarAlliance : Yeah Schröder ruined the German Social State ...pity ...
44 Post contains images MD11junkie : Please. Peron harmed this country more than it benefitted it. He created a generation of lazy ass bumps that want to live off the money of the Govern
45 Connies4ever : I think Mackenzie King and Wilfrid Laurier deserve some real consideration. While Trudeau essentially made Canada what it is today, demographically,
46 US330 : Abraham Lincoln...by a long shot. Reagan doesn't even come close.
47 Lan_Fanatic : Pretty funny to see all "hasta la victoria siempre" shouters living comfortably in Europe.
48 LHStarAlliance : Don´t speak if you don´t know ! I lived for about 8 years in Ecuador and I visited many countries there I perfectly know how people think and live
49 Avianca : and where is the point ? I am working hard to obtain the tickets ... I know enough "poor" people here that prefere to pass there time at the licor-st
50 LHStarAlliance : Well alcoholism is a big problem there as in Ecuador where I lived , but we are not speaking about this people , or are you saying poor people don´t
51 Avianca : I didnt say it and I didnt think it....
52 Lan_Fanatic : So, you lived in Ecuador for 8 years, which supposedly enlighten you to think what is better for latin american citizens (again, from your comfortabl
53 Cedars747 : Yes sure ! you mean the MENEM way .give me a break ,go to sleep and bee sure to close your bedroom door Hasta la victoria siempre ! Alex!!!
54 Gkirk : Donald Dewar. Jack McConnel is a numpty!
55 LHStarAlliance : haha the typical gossip of rich people there ... Salvador Allende was at least better than Pinochet ... Look at the USA , how far is it from Venezuel
56 Avianca : I say, that I know enough poor people who prefere to stay the day at a licor-store rather than work.... and this is true.
57 Post contains links and images Aloges : I hope we can get back on the topic of heads of government... __ As for Germany, I hold Brandt, Schmidt and also Adenauer in the highest regard. Adena
58 SOUTHAMERICA : 70% of Colombians approve Uribe as president. Private surevys are done every two months, and obvioulsy include people from all economical levels. Wet
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