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Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy  
User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2333 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3800 times:




Where did everybody go?
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User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3786 times:

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3785 times:

Quoting AAFLT1871 (Thread starter):
Remind Me Not To Go In A Helicopter With This Guy

Well, duh....he couldn't take you up anyway. He broke it.  wave 


User currently offlineDisruptivehair From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3781 times:

Is that for real? What the hell happened there!

User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3779 times:

Quoting Disruptivehair (Reply 3):
Is that for real? What the hell happened there!

He hit the overhang over the hanger doors with his rotors coz he didn't look up!!


User currently offlineDisruptivehair From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3775 times:

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 4):

He hit the overhang over the hanger doors with his rotors coz he didn't look up!!

Oh, thanks; I had no idea. Honestly!


User currently offlineTransWorldSTL From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3773 times:

"I apologize" HAH!

User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3753 times:

Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 6):
"I apologize" HAH!

Would have been funnier if he'd said "What a rush!!"

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

You need to be under clear Space before moving vertically up  Smile
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineRammstein From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3721 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 2):
Well, duh....he couldn't take you up anyway. He broke it.

 rotfl 

Well, honestly I feel sorry for the pilot, with so many distractions around him, he even forgot the basic rules of flying.


User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2404 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

Holy Crap! Yeah thats just freaky! I would shiznat my pants if I was the dude filming! All the stuff shooting everywhere.

Here at MAE (Madera, CA public airport), a guy by the name of Dave Berry owns two helicopters (one now) and a lear jet. He owns a lot of property around here. Well he got pissed off at his hellicopter piolt because he did not want to fly in the current weather like that. So Dave got pissed off and got in the helicopter by himself and started it up and started to take off...well he didnt un chain it from the ground and it came right back down to the ground and crashed it. It was in the paper the next day and he was the laughing stock of Madera. Everyone here hates him with a passion.



Don't Tread On Me!
User currently offlineBravo45 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2165 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3683 times:

Quoting Rammstein (Reply 9):
Well, honestly I feel sorry for the pilot, with so many distractions around him, he even forgot the basic rules of flying.

He was definitely at fault but yes I can feel sorry for him but he has to be able to deal with such situations. All the more warning for everyone watching.
Glad they were okay, though I think the pilot might have been wishing he had at least passed out, so he wouldn't have to say ' I apologise ', it sounded so weird.


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12566 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3613 times:
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Funny, but it's not like it was a real helicopter. duck 


Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana!
User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3302 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3576 times:

NTSB synopsis & report (for public use):


NTSB Identification: CHI04LA212.
The docket is stored in the Docket Management System (DMS). Please contact Records Management Division
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Thursday, August 05, 2004 in Chesterfield, MO
Probable Cause Approval Date: 7/7/2005
Aircraft: Robinson R44, registration: N7036J
Injuries: 1 Minor, 3 Uninjured.

The helicopter was substantially damaged when the main rotor contacted an open hangar door during takeoff and the helicopter subsequently impacted the ground. The pilot stated that the helicopter was parked on the ramp approximately 35 feet from the hangar. The bi-fold hangar door was open and extended about 10 feet out over the ramp. He stated that after takeoff, as the aircraft began to move away from the hangar, the passenger in the left front seat "accidentally and inadvertently hit or bumped the counterweight portion of the cyclic." The helicopter drifted toward the open hangar door and before he could correct the drift the main rotor clipped the bottom edge of the door. He recalled: "I quickly maneuvered away from the hangar building and began to level the aircraft." The helicopter descended to the ramp. The subsequent hard landing caused the skids to collapse and the main rotor to sever the tail boom. A ground witness to the accident submitted a video recording of the accident flight. Review of the recording revealed that after the helicopter lifted-off, it paused in a hover for a few seconds and then began to climb out, subsequently contacting the door. No drift toward the hangar building was observed prior to rotor blade contact with the door.


The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:

The pilot's inadequate preflight planning due to his selection of an unsuitable takeoff area and his failure to maintain clearance from the open hangar door. A contributing factor was the open hangar door.


Source


Full narrative (for public use):


On August 5, 2004, at 1200 central daylight time, a Robinson R44, N7036J, piloted by a commercial pilot, was substantially damaged when the main rotor contacted an open hangar door during takeoff and the helicopter subsequently impacted the ground at Spirit of St. Louis Airport (SUS), Chesterfield, Missouri. The flight was being conducted under 14 CFR Part 91 and was not on a flight plan. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed. The pilot and 2 passengers reported no injuries. A third passenger reported minor injuries. The local flight was originating at the time of the accident.

In his written statement, the pilot reported that the flight was to be a local sightseeing flight for the 3 passengers. He added that the left side flight controls had been removed. The pilot stated that the helicopter was parked on the ramp approximately 35 feet from the hangar. He reported that the bi-fold hangar door was open and extended about 10 feet out over the ramp.

The pilot stated that after completing the normal start-up and pre-flight procedures, he established that the area was clear and picked up into a 6 - 8 foot hover. He reported that he began to move away from the hangar. He stated that as he did so the passenger in the left front seat turned to his right and "accidentally and inadvertently hit or bumped the counterweight portion of the cyclic as he turned."

The pilot stated that the helicopter drifted toward the open hangar door and before he could correct the drift the main rotor clipped the bottom edge of the door. He recalled: "I quickly maneuvered away from the hangar building and began to level the aircraft." The helicopter descended to the ramp. The subsequent hard landing caused the skids to collapse and the main rotor to sever the tail boom.

A ground witness to the accident submitted a video recording of the accident flight. Review of the recording revealed that after the helicopter lifted-off, it paused in a hover for a few seconds and then began to climb out, subsequently contacting the door. No drift toward the hangar building was observed prior to rotor blade contact with the door.


Source


Factual Report (PDF)
Probable Cause Report (PDF)


Bryan



"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3452 times:

I doubt the Pilots statement of a Pax Inadvertently moving the Cyclic pitch lever.It moved vertically upwards with no sudden fwd mvmt.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3446 times:

Can we say Pilot Error?


Hydrogen is an odorless, colorless gas which, given enough time, turns into people.
User currently offlineAndrewuber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3440 times:

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 15):
Can we say Pilot Error?

The NTSB already did.



I'd rather shoot BAD_MOTIVE
User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3436 times:

Quoting Andrewuber (Reply 16):
Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 15):
Can we say Pilot Error?

The NTSB already did.

I'd imagine his passengers made that assessment shortly after.


User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

and see? thats exactly why i dont fly in helicopters. they are too flimsy for me. i dont trust them!!


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User currently offlineMika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2881 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 18):
and see? thats exactly why i dont fly in helicopters. they are too flimsy for me. i dont trust them!!

Ditto! I cant put my trust in a set of rotorblades, uh uh.


I want wings, mighty mighty wings!


User currently offlineMarquis From Germany, joined Sep 2005, 274 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 18):
i dont fly in helicopters

Helicopters don't fly. They are so ugly that the earth repels them.



Riding the radials...
User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

I've only ever flown in one type of helicopter, but that one was a wee bit bigger than the R44 in the top video...  Smile

And by pure coincidence it is included in this video I made from when I was in the air force. Hehe.



Helicopters are perfectly safe... it's the people flying them who decide how safe...

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3259 times:

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 18):



and see? thats exactly why i dont fly in helicopters. they are too flimsy for me. i dont trust them!!

With Autorotation.Helicopters are safe.Only doubt if you loose the Tail rotor  Smile

regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3252 times:

Given that the R44 came down from 12-15 feet and nobody was seriously injured has to speak fairly highly of the strength of that little helicopter.


Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3201 times:

In the video you can hear someone say "Ride's Over, huh?" haha

[Edited 2007-03-12 15:25:05]


Slower traffic, keep right
User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3188 times:

Good example of a good landing; not a gerat one.

Good landings you walk away from, great ones let you re-use the aircraft.


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