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Why Is My Subaru Ranked So Low By Jd Power?  
User currently offlineAaden From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 835 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

hello all, i bought a new car 2007 subaru impreza 2.5 1 manual tranny. I have always thought that subarus were some of the highest rated vehicles in terms of overall quality and reliability. So my question is does anyone know why They would be ranked at the low end of things?

jd power thinks my car belongs with the rest.

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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3237 times:

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/subaru/impreza/2007/sedan
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/car-com...rivenWheels=4&cabType=&fromModel=1

I can only assume it's an accurate rating . . .

Why the question?

Apparently, JD Power thinks less of your car than you do.

[Edited 2007-03-11 08:14:03]

User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3226 times:

1. Why would you buy a new car?
2. Why would you buy a non-STi Impreza?
3. JD Powers is crap.

My 3 thoughts of the day.


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3218 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 2):
Why would you buy a non-STi Impreza?

Anything less is for boy racers and wannabe boy racers.


User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3212 times:

Perhaps he chose not to buy an STi as there are no STi workshops in the US. Either way, I own a Subaru as well and I think they are often under-rated...


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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3184 times:
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Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 2):
2. Why would you buy a non-STi Impreza?

Perhaps because not everyone wants or needs the maximum horsepower available in a given model. You know, LOT.....unlike yourself, not everyone feels the need to prove him/herself to every teenager they encounter at a stoplight.


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User currently offlineThetuna From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 140 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3177 times:

Only weird people that have deep seeded issues buy subarus.


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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3175 times:
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Probably ranked as crap cos they get the ring ripped out of them by every boy racer who thinks that light to light performance is the be all and end all of the universe. Personally I think Subarus are garish and ugly and grossly overrated.


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User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

I have read that Subarus have terrible resale values, and if I remember correctly, are one of the worst automobiles is far as holding their value.

User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3141 times:

Quoting Aaden (Thread starter):
I have always thought that subarus were some of the highest rated vehicles in terms of overall quality and reliability.

Check BEFORE you buy.

If you like the car though don't panic. It doesn't mean it will definitely go wrong.


User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3136 times:

I'd comment on Subaru, but I can't fit in one.  Sad


Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

Quoting Piercey (Reply 10):
I'd comment on Subaru, but I can't fit in one.

Maybe if you cut down on the twinkies?

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 2):
1. Why would you buy a new car?
2. Why would you buy a non-STi Impreza?
3. JD Powers is crap.

Why would he not buy a new car if he can afford one? Also, from a practical standpoint, the regular WRX is a fantastic car, which I would buy before I'd consider an STi. Things like insurance and maintenance do play a role in many people's decisions for purchasing cars you know.

JD Power has issues, but I wouldn't say they're crap.



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User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1146 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3093 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Apparently, JD Power thinks less of your car than you do.



Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 2):
JD Powers is crap.



Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 11):
JD Power has issues

JD Power also gives awards to the ever so plastic looking chevy....so that gives you an idea of where they stand in terms of ranking the qaulity of automobiles. It doesn't matter what they think, what do you think!?

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 5):
not everyone feels the need to prove him/herself to every teenager they encounter at a stoplight.

Nothing hurts me more to see a Sunfire or Cavalier coupe at a red light with a fart cannon on the end of the exhaust, rap music blasting and the seat fully reclined as if he's about to go "pop someone". What gets me even more, is when they burn off the line, attempt to pass you and then pull into your lane as if to say something?! What makes my day, is giving them a chance as if they are able to pass, and then speeding up and boxing them in somewhere around the speedlimit with another car; oh my I need to grow up.



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User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

JD Power also decreases the "reliability" ratings of cars if consumers complain about the cup holder design. To me, reliability means that a car is deemed undrivable, or requires a visit to the mechanic to fix something, and not because I feel the cup holder doesn't meet my standards. The Hummer H2 also had a poor reliability rating, much of it due to the fact that it got worse mileage than some of the buyers thought it would get. Sorry ... these things (mileage, cup holders) have nothing to do with reliability, but they do show how stupid some consumers, and JD Power can be.


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Quoting Aaden (Thread starter):
So my question is does anyone know why They would be ranked at the low end of things?

You bought it....Didn't you research it first....?????
I agree with LOT767..... Why in gods name would you buy a new car.....???? The second you signed the papers it dropped in value. You now OWE more then it's WORTH. Last year I bought a 2 year old Volvo S40 'Sport'... fully loaded. I paid $4,000 less the KBB.... after a year it's still worth $6,000 MORE then I owe....!!!!

....and how the heck does a 16-20 year old buy a $20,000 car......???????

[Edited 2007-03-11 18:08:44]


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User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3072 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 14):
....and how the heck does a 16-20 year old buy a $20,000 car......???????

Daddy buys it for him.  Smile



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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3065 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3062 times:

Unless I'm much mistaken, the JDPower survey measures initial quality of brand-new cars, and the owner's overall satisfaction therewith. It does not measure long-term reliability or overall durability.

If no-one has done so already, it might be very interesting to see if there are any cars that JDPower initially ranked very highly which turned out to be rolling piles of poo a few years down the line.



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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3055 times:
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Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):

Apparently, JD Power thinks less of your car than you do.

It's not JD Power....it's the people that respond to the surveys.

Don't get mad at the ranking agency when they're surveying actual buyers who are giving their actual opinions.

Do remember that most of the people who actually reply to these surveys are pissed at the product.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2040 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

Quoting TSS (Reply 16):
Unless I'm much mistaken, the JDPower survey measures initial quality of brand-new cars, and the owner's overall satisfaction therewith. It does not measure long-term reliability or overall durability

They also do a 3 year dependability study where Subaru is just slightly below average...

results can be found here



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User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3047 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 5):
You know, LOT.....unlike yourself, not everyone feels the need to prove him/herself to every teenager they encounter at a stoplight.

 checkmark 

Although, I side with you on the non-STI imprezas - the STIs arent that much of a pricehike and the midrange grunt is stunning
Thanks
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User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2371 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3034 times:

Subaru makes a decent vehicle. They are also a great value since they well equipped base models and good gas mileage. And for the OP who lives in Colorado he gets standard AWD without having to buy an SUV.

JD Powers and Associates is one of the benchmarks for judging inital quality and reliability. But so is Consumer Reports.

My Consumer Reports "Cars: Ratings & Pricing" from last year rates the 2006 Impreza as "Recommended."

Reliability: Better (Highest score)
Depreciation: Average
Satisfaction: Average

Matt


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3034 times:

Quoting AC773 (Reply 15):
Daddy buys it for him.

Daddy got me a bus pass when I was 16!


User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3065 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3031 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 18):
They also do a 3 year dependability study where Subaru is just slightly below average...

Ah...
Thanks, I was not aware of that.

Because I'd rather spend my money on airline tickets than car payments, I never buy a car with less than 100,000 miles on it or one less than ten years old. While cars in the sub-$2000 bracket don't come with bragging rights, by the time they're depreciated to that point their reliability (or lack of same) is well-documented.



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User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3024 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 14):
Why in gods name would you buy a new car.....????

sometimes buying a cheaper car new makes sense for some people, especially for younger drivers, who might get free insurance, % finance, discounts, warranty (some still offer only a year).......this offsets a drop in value. On expensive cars it makes less sense though.

A 2 year old car might be cheaper but it's very close to having it's first MOT at that age, which could mean repairs, and it's probably the age for many where things like the exhaust start to wear out and need replacing. Also you can never know a used cars history fully....


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3003 times:

Buying a new car makes sense when you plan on keeping the car for a long time. The added few grand it will cost to get the new car is amortized over a long period of time (i.e. 10 years or more), making the price difference quite small in the long run. Finance rates for new cars is often substantially lower as well. New cars don't make financial sense if you plan on getting rid of them after a couple of years though.


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25 Post contains images Piercey : Being 6'1 and a 36" pant length has nothing to do with twinkies [rant] and daddy won't even get me a $900 car, let alone a $20000 car [/rant] I have
26 Post contains images Fumanchewd : Krikey! How does that happen? I'm 6'1" with a 32" pant length. After devouring a bottle of jager and 13 smores, Piercey showed the co-eds his version
27 ACDC8 : Doesn't JD provide that little graph you always feel the need to post when trying to prove vehicle reliability?
28 Captaingomes : hehehehehehehehehehe
29 Post contains images StarAC17 : That settles it, i'm residing in the UK But in all seriousness you have to be wrong on this one, here is Canada us young people (anyone under 25) are
30 Post contains images Piercey : Who the hell soups up a Sunfire? You need a Focus
31 Monteycarlos : You can fit in a focus but not a WRX? How does that make sense? Generally Brits see Subarus as toy cars anyway so no surprises there... England is ab
32 N231YE : That was according to a last year's issue Consumer Reports or Car & Driver (forgot which one), for the United States.
33 Jafa39 : Sorry to be the one to tell y'all but I know several "Scooby" drivers in the UK and NZ...not one of them is 100% reliable, they suffer from a vast arr
34 KevinL1011 : All true except one. Not all surveys are answered by the vehicle owner. Many new car "Sales Consultants" will offer the buyer some kind of freebie if
35 Captaingomes : In fact it would be JD Power. Not sure if CR does it, but JD does.
36 Monteycarlos : Yeah fair enough, but as I said I wasn't sure about the US. I'm on my second now, and they've both been great. Its the 5th one in the family of which
37 Piercey : Higher steering wheel and seat can go farther back. Same with the fact that I can fit in a Chevy Aveo.
38 2H4 : Well, following your logic, it's also downright foolish to purchase new computers, furniture, televisions, appliances, etc, etc, etc. After all, a $4
39 Sovietjet : I have a WRX, I've had it for 2 years with no problems. I have a 2002 model and although the tranny is kinda weak, as long as you dont drive like an i
40 Montanaflyer : I'm not an overly big fan of subeys, but my first car ever was an 85 subaru that my daddy bought me for a cool $400 with 230,000 miles on her, the onl
41 Galapagapop : Exactly Some of us aren't the average American that will have to sell everything a few years later due to spending money they don't clearly have. BTW
42 LOT767-300ER : We are talking about a stock Subaru Impreza here...where did horsepower get into the picture? I didnt tell him to go trade it in for a 2000 WS6. Aade
43 EMBQA : My Dell Laptop was bought from their Discount Store and I saved over $1,000....!! Never used or even open. It was a CX'd order. Came loaded with near
44 KevinL1011 : And NOW......Back to the THREAD! I guess if the cupholder snaps off with a "Big Gulp" in it, (a "Big Gulp" is the large 44oz drink sold at 7-11 stores
45 LOT767-300ER : The graph that I use to feed the same people who bitch and moan that American cars are unreliable and then found somehow reliable by an organization
46 Galapagapop : Na I bought her at 23, for me, I don't require a new vehicle, a 82' Checker cab does me fine, and being that the engine is Chevy, parts are not as mu
47 ACDC8 : So then you find the graph (JD) a credible resource?
48 LOT767-300ER : Personally? No. The only lunatics who swear by such studies are the same people that come to me to buy electronics with a CR list in their hand...hal
49 ACDC8 : So why is it that when someone says they've had bad experiences with car brand A and had good experiences with car brand B, you pull this graph out t
50 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Read previous reply. It shuts up most people when their car is ranked #1 by them and then the brand is ranked worse than a Mercury. Maybe I should bu
51 ACDC8 : By a source that you yourself don't neccesairily believe in. Personally, I don't care for JD or other consumer reports, they don't provide enough inf
52 Aaden : thank you thats why I did not choose to drive a sports car.
53 Post contains images Cornish : Interesting thread - in the UK Subarus always come out right at the very top of ownership surveys. Over here whether its the sports models or the more
54 Post contains images Sovietjet : Heh, it's not an STi but it's faster than one by now . I DID really want one but: 1) Keep in mind that when I was looking for the car STis were still
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