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A Serious Warning For Macbook Users  
User currently offlineTmatt95 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 489 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1755 times:

Whilst surfing Digg today, I came across this article about a Macbook catching fire which was posted a day ago. The poster thinks that it was the battery (but more importantly, according to the poster, the laptop was NOT one of the ones recalled.)
This post is a heads up to everyone on the forum who has a Macbook. Be careful with your Macbook. The people who this affected nearly had their house burnt down!!!

Below is a link to the article:
http://mactalk.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=28926

(images are included in the article)

Regards,

Matt

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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1749 times:

This thread is Libelous and Fraudlent. Macs are PERFECT!!


Signed,

Klaus


User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 1):
This thread is Libelous and Fraudlent. Macs are PERFECT!!


Signed,

Klaus

 Big grin


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8760 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 1):
This thread is Libelous and Fraudlent. Macs are PERFECT!!


Signed,

Klaus

And you're asking for civility in the forum...  sarcastic  Is De-escalation Possible? (by TedTAce Mar 11 2007 in Non Aviation)



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1719 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 3):
And you're asking for civility in the forum...

It's called a Joke, and I'll bet a $1 that Klaus laughs.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21520 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1688 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 4):
It's called a Joke, and I'll bet a $1 that Klaus laughs.

 yawn  $1 lost for you, I'm afraid. Particular minus points for lack of imagination.

I see the guy is australian - maybe MacBooks just aren't supposed to be operated upside down!


But seriously - I can understand that computer manufacturers don't want to spook their customers by describing accurately and exhaustively what potential problems can occur with Li-Ion batteries if not handled properly.

But I would always advise any laptop owner (regardless of make) to be cautious about their batteries:

- If the battery starts to exhibit sudden and substantial deviations from its normal behaviour, don't hesitate to contact support. Especially Li-Ion batteries contain a relatively large charge in a very small space and have some unhealthy failure modes. A slow degradation of battery capacity is unfortunately to be expected (although depending on usage patterns it can be slowed down), but it shouldn't happen suddenly or erratically.

- Do not keep the charger connected unless necessary, especially not unattended.

- Do not use and especially do not charge the computer while it's sitting on a soft, flammable surface which blocks ventilation (carpet, cushion etc.) if it can be helped. A hard, smooth surface is generally better suited.

- Try to keep paper and other flammables away from the computer if possible. The same is true for batteries by themselves (such as replacement ones).

The MacBook in the forum post could in fact be affected by Sony's recent battery production issues at its age; The owner said he checked the serial number, but there could have been a mistake.

As said above, current Li-Ion technology is nothing to be trifled with, so be cautious!


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 5):
I see the guy is australian - maybe MacBooks just aren't supposed to be operated upside down!

Quote of the year!


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 5):
$1 lost for you, I'm afraid. Particular minus points for lack of imagination.

 Sad
Aloges, the check is in the mail.


User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1656 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 5):

I don't know about Macs, but I can remove the battery from my Tablet PC and operate it only on AC power.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 5):
As said above, current Li-Ion technology is nothing to be trifled with, so be cautious!

Maybe Apple, being the innovative company it is, should develop a computer that uses ultra-capacitors!


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21520 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 7):
Aloges, the check is in the mail.

Sorry; Maybe you should make more of an effort to be actually funny next time...!  mischievous 

Quoting N231YE (Reply 8):
I don't know about Macs, but I can remove the battery from my Tablet PC and operate it only on AC power.

That should work as well, it's just not the point - as long as the battery is healthy, it can stay in the computer; If it's not, have it checked out.

Quoting N231YE (Reply 8):
Maybe Apple, being the innovative company it is, should develop a computer that uses ultra-capacitors!

The problem is not in the computer, the problem is in the capacitors...!


User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 9):
The problem is not in the computer, the problem is in the capacitors...!

The problem is not the computer or capacitors; it exists between the chair and keyboard...!


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21520 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

Quoting N231YE (Reply 10):
The problem is not the computer or capacitors; it exists between the chair and keyboard...!

The problem of power supply? How'd that work?  eyebrow 


User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 11):
The problem of power supply? How'd that work?  

Tough crowd  banghead 


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8760 posts, RR: 42
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

Quoting N231YE (Reply 8):
Maybe Apple, being the innovative company it is, should develop a computer that uses ultra-capacitors!

Or fuel cells, so that we can all run around with little hydrogen tanks and leave them baking in the car during summer...  Wink On a side note: I read a "news"bit on suggested flash memory-based HDDs, which Apple supposedly was looking at to replace magnetic discs. That would mean a pretty solid drop in energy consumption of notebooks, somewhat alleviating the battery problem.

Quoting N231YE (Reply 10):
The problem is not the computer or capacitors; it exists between the chair and keyboard...!

 rotfl 



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21520 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1565 times:

Quoting N231YE (Reply 12):
Tough crowd



Quoting Aloges (Reply 13):
Or fuel cells, so that we can all run around with little hydrogen tanks and leave them baking in the car during summer...

Now that looks like a really neat idea...!  silly 

Quoting Aloges (Reply 13):
On a side note: I read a "news"bit on suggested flash memory-based HDDs, which Apple supposedly was looking at to replace magnetic discs. That would mean a pretty solid drop in energy consumption of notebooks, somewhat alleviating the battery problem.

As far as I'm aware Sony already has a flash-based sub-notebook; And with the smaller screen the harddisk would indeed make up a bigger chunk of the total power consumption.

OLED displays together with flash memory instead of a harddisk would be a huge step forward in power saving! (A colour LCD panel simply blocks out more than two thirds of the expensively generated backlight, even if every pixel on the screen is switched to white; An OLED display would only consume power according to the amount of light visible to the user, so bright text on a black background could save a lot of power again on an OLED, while it's pretty much irrelevant on an LCD.)


User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3012 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1547 times:
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What about a nuclear powered notebook?  Smile OK, if it catches on fire it might be worse than just a Li-Ion battery though ...


Never trust a statistic you didn't fake yourself
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1529 times:

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 15):
What about a nuclear powered notebook? OK, if it catches on fire it might be worse than just a Li-Ion battery though ...

How about this?
http://www.memagazine.org/backissues...97/features/turbdime/turbdime.html


User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3012 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1519 times:
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HEAD MODERATOR

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 16):
How about this?
http://www.memagazine.org/backissues....html

How cool is that?? I want a gas turbine in my notebook  Silly I can already hear it whining...



Never trust a statistic you didn't fake yourself
User currently offlineTmatt95 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1508 times:

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 17):
How cool is that?? I want a gas turbine in my notebook Silly I can already hear it whining...

I want a laptop that can be powered by potatoes, like the potato powered clocks

Matt

[Edited 2007-03-12 22:00:31]

User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21520 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1475 times:

Quoting Tmatt95 (Reply 18):
I want a laptop that can be powered by potatoes, like the potato powered clocks

Not a problem - provided you're ready to carry one or two sacks of potatoes with you...! Big grin


User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 17):
I want a gas turbine in my notebook   I can already hear it whining...

I can cut you a real good deal on a Mac II with a fan that sounds a lot like a 727 at idle. Those 8Mhz chips don't cool themselves, you know.  Wink



Able to kill active threads stone dead with a single post!
User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 14):
OLED displays together with flash memory instead of a harddisk would be a huge step forward in power saving! (A colour LCD panel simply blocks out more than two thirds of the expensively generated backlight, even if every pixel on the screen is switched to white; An OLED display would only consume power according to the amount of light visible to the user, so bright text on a black background could save a lot of power again on an OLED, while it's pretty much irrelevant on an LCD.)

Texas Instruments (maker of DLP) is currently working on this, as I recall reading this.

Quoting Tmatt95 (Reply 18):
I want a laptop that can be powered by potatoes, like the potato powered clocks

You could always try lemons, and as a positive side effect, they will protect your Mac from getting Scurvy!


User currently offlineReguPilot From Puerto Rico, joined Jan 2004, 495 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

The problems of the capacitors its not limited to Apple. Dell had the same issue with thousands of their Optiplex computers. Same with Abit, MSI and Asys boards. They would not cause fire, but they would stop working. I gues that since there is more room in a PC than in a Laptop, the exploding capacitor wouldn't harm as much.

Quoting Pope (Reply 6):
Quoting Klaus (Reply 5):
I see the guy is australian - maybe MacBooks just aren't supposed to be operated upside down!

Quote of the year!

Agreed!


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21520 posts, RR: 53
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1420 times:

Quoting N231YE (Reply 21):
You could always try lemons, and as a positive side effect, they will protect your Mac from getting Scurvy!

And they smell better, too!   

Quoting ReguPilot (Reply 22):
The problems of the capacitors its not limited to Apple.

I'm not sure Apple ever used some of those defective (counterfeit) capacitors which had plagued the industry a while ago; This apparently was another case of Li-Ion battery cells giving out...

[Edited 2007-03-13 00:31:46]

User currently offlineWSOY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1335 times:

I think eveyone has their stomach full now, but how about this notice?


Apple has initiated a worldwide battery exchange program for certain rechargeable batteries that were sold for use with 15-inch MacBook Pro computer systems from February 2006 through May 2006.

We recently discovered that some 15-inch MacBook Pro batteries supplied to Apple do not meet our high standards for battery performance. To give our users the best experience possible, we will replace these batteries for customers free of charge.

Note: The affected batteries do not pose a safety risk. You may continue to use your current battery until a replacement arrives.

Identifying your battery
The affected batteries have model number A1175 and a 12-digit serial number that ends with U7SA, U7SB or U7SC. To view the model and serial numbers located on the bottom of the battery, you must remove the battery from the computer. The battery serial number is located above the barcode. See photos below. Only batteries within the noted serial number ranges need to be exchanged



Source




I guess the moral of the story is: stop using a battery that has an "X" apperaring over its icon and remove it from the machine, immediately

[Edited 2007-03-13 12:02:31]

25 ConcordeMach2 : hmmmm mine has had that X appear ocasionally. Uh oh better not catch fire!
26 Klaus : I would indeed investigate what's up with it, but it doesn't need to have a dangerous fault. The power / communication contacts in the battery compar
27 WSOY : Better discard that battery at once. My experience is that there's excessive heat buildup well before the final countdown.
28 Post contains links Klaus : You continue to give false and potentially expensive mis-advice. Since you apparently don't own or use a Macintosh, please at least inform yourself b
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