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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1970 times:

Greetings all,

Got a bit of a dilemma on my hands here. I've taken over the print contract from a company that went under a few months ago and are no longer contactable but the customer is insisting on their stuff being printed on the EXACT same colour paper that the previous print co. used.

The paper is nothing special in itself, just normal A4 80gsm stuff, but it's a darkish red.

I have tried my local Staples store and they do have 80gsm red paper but it's quite a bit lighter in colour and therefore unsuitable. I've also purchased a ream of Chromika's 80gsm A4 "bright red" paper on a recommendation that it would be the stuff I need too, but once again the colour is about the same as the Staples stuff and is too light.

Does anyone have any suggestions how I can find out what the exact colour and manufacturer is without having to buy every company's "red" paper and hoping it matches?

I've asked both Xerox and Data Copy if they do something like a paper colour sample/swatch but neither seems to know what I'm on about!

Quite probably no help whatsoever, but this is a pic I took earlier of the two - the A4 sheet being the Chromika "Bright Red" brand and the smaller darker ones sat on top being the actual colour paper I need.

It's a very long shot I know, but maybe someone can help?  confused 

R

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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

My Dad was in the printing biz for 45 years before he retired/passed, and although my career path was aviation, I do recall the name of one paper supplier:

http://www.internationalpaper.com/Paper/Paper.html

They may (or may not) have operations in the UK, and perhaps they can also pass along the names of the competition (if they don't have what you need).

It's a starting point... Good luck!


User currently offlineVaporlock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1932 times:

I can understand your problem and unfortunately, looking at the picture of the paper on a monitor really doesn't help as every monitor can show the "colour" differently. Also, is the picture saved in "RGB" colour or "CMYK" colour?

If you can get your hands on a "PMS" colour booklet/card sample you might be able to match the colour a bit better.

Good Luck!

Phyllis  bouncy 


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1891 times:

Thanks for your help! I'm still not really much closer in finding out what the exact colour is. A colour matching place in California offered to identify the actual colour from a sample of it for me but sadly an exact match could not be made. This is suspected to be because many of the UK/European paper brands are not available in the US and the paper I have is 99% likely to be a UK/European brand.

The closest match that could be made from a swatch was the "red" colour paper of Domtar Hots brand, but it has a (noticeable) touch less yellow in it than mine. Aside from the fact that it's not a suitable match, Domtar Hots brand is not available in the UK anyway unless I import it at $46.00 per ream.

After spending some more time searching, I've decided that my best approach is to request samples from as many UK paper merchants as I can find, where they will send out "red" paper samples from all the different brands they offer. Hopefully I'll hit the jackpot with one of them soon.

R


User currently offlineAdopim88 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 2007 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1871 times:

Quoting Vaporlock (Reply 2):

If you can get your hands on a "PMS" colour booklet/card sample you might be able to match the colour a bit better.

That is the best suggestion that I can come up with. Those color swatches have every shade of color under the sun. We keep tons of them in our division. It's been a godsend lately with all the new shades of colors we're getting these days. It's a heck of a lot easier to match a full sheet of paper than the little printed text we try to match  banghead  I feel your pain in trying to match colors... major pain!

I hope you can find it!



Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
User currently offlineJeffSFO From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 836 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1862 times:

Try this:

http://www.chromix.com/ColorGear/Sho...on=tx:42F9482E07aaf0AA27lIIL9BA1DD

Thank God I don't work in print!  Wink

Good luck though.


User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1859 times:

You've got some damned picky customers on your hands. My sympathy, I can't stand people like that.

User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 5):
Try this:

http://www.chromix.com/ColorGear/Sho...on=tx:42F9482E07aaf0AA27lIIL9BA1DD

Thank God I don't work in print!

Good luck though.

Thanks! All I need to do now is find someone that's got one....!  rotfl 

R


User currently offlineCxsjr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

Good morning Rob,

I can relate to your predicament here; it can be soooo frustrating when you're trying to find something and you contact companies who just don't seem to have a clue what you're going on about!

Anyway, here's my suggestion. You're in Huddersfield; about 20 miles away, there's an outfit in the (otherwise very dull) Salford Quays Shopping Mall called The Paper Mill Shop. I've been to the one at the Rheged Centre in Penrith and you go along, fill one of their boxes (equivalent to a ream) with any type and mix of paper you like from their huge selection of lose leaf papers which are simply displayed in pigeon holes; looks like it's now £7 for a ream of any mix. Seems they do a 135gsm crimson paper or a 100gsm in dark red but the latter is linen embossed but hey, it'd be worth a drive out just in case?

Check out their website: http://www.thepapermillshop.co.uk .... hope this help and good luck!

Stu   

[Edited 2007-03-24 08:12:14]

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