Chris28_17 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1439 posts, RR: 10 Posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 667 times:
My 56K was having trouble loading the first topic but i thought i would give an interesting story.
Last week i was flying out of ZRH and set off the metal detector. Now no big deal, for this trip i took a total of 10 flights in a week and got about 5 other "pat downs". Well, this dude takes me into a little room and, well, lets just say he didnt miss anything. Security workers are instructed to use the *back* of thier hands; so already he's doing this wrong, all palms. He might as well said "turn your head and cough" although i would have rather gotten a physical than this sicko. Excuse my frankness, but the guy basically fondled my nuts, and he didnt speak english so there was no use saying anything to him. Honestly it didnt bug me that much and i just toughed it out but it still wasnt called for at all.
Thats my story. im sorry but security is a joke. There will ALWAYS be a loophole. These new security measures probably wouldnt have prevented what happened last week, only if that guy was randomly selected to do the EDT machine on his shoes which would have been very unlikely.
I'm beginning to think the only answer for preventing bombs is dogs. Yes bomb sniffing dogs although there are not nearly enough of them to go around, these are the only things that can screen everyone, there is no way to use the EDT on everyone, it's too time consuming and airlines wont allow it. Also dogs would be able to screen checked baggage as well... remember PanAm?? there are no security regulations in place that would prevent that EXACT thing from happening again.
just some thoughts, i'd rather be barked at by a dog than fondled by an old man....
5280AGL From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 414 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 613 times:
I hear ya Chris...When my wife and I were going through security at DIA over Xmas, my wife was "randomly" selected for the wand and pat-down search. She and I both noticed the screener taking an abnormally long time in some sensitive areas...My wife, being a very outspoken woman, just said; "like what ya feel buddy?"
Just what we needed, some low-life scumbag that is probably here illegaly, feeling my wife's tits. I have many gripes about security, especially here at DIA...First of all, none of them can speak English and are more than likely illegal Mexicans, plus, they are screening the wrong people. All I have seen them do is search little old ladies, children and attractive young women. Secondly, all of these new security procedures are complete B.S., they don't make any difference at all, except waste people's time and ultimately will make the airline's lose big time $$$.
Carmy From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 627 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 595 times:
Yeah. Agree with 5280AGL on the part about searching the wrong people. My 80 year old grandmother was asked millions of questions when they found a nail clipper in her carry on baggage. Quite ridiculous if you ask me. The last time I checked, there's never been an 80 year old woman who's ever hijacked a plane with a nail clipper.
I don't know, maybe things have changed. Maybe airline passengers these days are so vain the best way to scare them into submission is to threaten to cut their nails off.
Turbolet From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 586 times:
I'm waiting for someone to invent an automatic x-ray machine and automatic bodyscan. Wouldn't that be great? The only personnel around would be a security guy to check if it's working fine and a dog to bite him if he touched the passengers.
Chris28_17 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1439 posts, RR: 10 Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 571 times:
I'm waiting for someone to invent an automatic x-ray machine and automatic bodyscan
already been done. Believe it or not, you walk through a thing similar to a metal detector and up on a screen comes an X-ray image at different strengths of your entire body... the reason we arent using them is because, well, people dont want screeners seeing their *privates* because thats exactly what the machine does. There is only a very small group of people lobbying for this machine right now, i wouldn't doubt we all at least hear about it sometime down the road....
but yes, i work for the airlines and i see first hand how all the new security measures are mindless and stupid; it amazes me how the illusion of security can have so much power....
Turbolet From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 564 times:
Yeah, I know a bodyscan exists, I was talking about one which would automatically match the metal objects found on a passenger to some common shapes (i.e. handgun, knife...) and decide itself whether to 'pass' or 'fail' the passenger.