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Dem Primaries, Let The Mud Begin To Fly  
User currently offlineRJdxer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1052 times:

Still 9 months away and already they are eating their own. This is going to be so much fun to watch. I would not want to be a Hillary sidekick after she saw this....






There are some even worse variations of this video out there but all kind of play off of this one. Since this is just a play on the original mac commercial it's not truly brilliant but you have to give kudos to whomever thought about making the switches involved in it. Very funny stuff.

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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1044 times:

And are you going to post something similar the first time Romney's or Brownback's camp publishes something that touts their 'true' Republican roots, unlike certain others who support abortions and gays?

You know as well as I do just how nasty both sides will get w/ their own. Since Clinton/Obama have the most visibility right now, do you think its a surprise they're the first w/ the ads?



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1031 times:

Wow pretty strong stuff RJ. I love the overtone of the mezmorized masses ... cool.

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 1):
And are you going to post something similar the first time Romney's or Brownback's camp publishes something that touts their 'true' Republican roots, unlike certain others who support abortions and gays?

Of course this will happen... thier called issues and we fight about them. What issue other than 2nd guessing the war do Obama and Clinton differ on ? Probably not many ... they will just sling mud at each other because they dont really have any issues to fight about. The Republicans do infact have "core values" among the party that set the stage for political debate and yes probably some flaming darts.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13116 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1024 times:

I have a long term interest in politics, but it is being tested in the obscenity the 2008 US Presidential Primary campaign has been so far and will be for the next 14 months. It is being made worse by the log jam of many states shifting their primary elections into early February to get the attention from the candidates and away from marginal states like New Hampshire and Iowa. As a result, there will be very little real campaigning and probably $150 MILLION + in sound bite ads, with no substantial discussion of complex issues. The need for all that money means that the rich will be able to buy candidates to push their interests, with only token items to the 90%+ of Americans.

User currently offlineRJdxer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1020 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 1):
And are you going to post something similar the first time Romney's or Brownback's camp publishes something that touts their 'true' Republican roots, unlike certain others who support abortions and gays?

If someone doesn't beat me to it I will.

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 1):
You know as well as I do just how nasty both sides will get w/ their own.

Don't take the post the wrong way, I truly do find it entertaining to watch both sides take pot shots at each other. Lord knows they wouldn't dare come out with what they really want to do for fear of getting chopped off at the knees.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 3):
I have a long term interest in politics, but it is being tested in the obscenity the 2008 US Presidential Primary campaign has been so far and will be for the next 14 months.

Well there is something we can both agree on. I'm sick of the race already and it hasn't even begun. In all honesty did it ever stop after it had begun in 2000? Seems like both sides have been constantly campaigning for President ever since then.


User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1008 times:

However bad the mudsilinging gets (and it will get worse before it gets better) between the Democrats, it will appear like a great big love-in compared to what will happen in the GOP.

For better, worse, or indifferent social conservatives are the base of the Republican party, and I don't think there has ever been a time where a party's leading candidates for president have been so far removed from its base. Before long we are going to see one of the lower tier candidates; Brownback, Huckabee, maybe even Gingrich make a play for the heart of the GOP and it will be brutal. Abortion, immigration, and enough gay bashing to make Fred Phelps proud will be the hallmarks of the campaign. And while the right wing will eat it up, the center will be so turned off that whoever survives the bloodshed will have to spend the general election campagin digging themselves out of a huge hole.



"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline." Frank Zappa
User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1004 times:

Quoting RJdxer (Reply 4):
Well there is something we can both agree on. I'm sick of the race already and it hasn't even begun. In all honesty did it ever stop after it had begun in 2000? Seems like both sides have been constantly campaigning for President ever since then.

Make that three of us on the same page - other than for comic relief, I'm going to try and avoid it as much as possible until January of next year.



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 987 times:

As if the Republican Party is going to be a peaceful dialogue of debate.  Yeah sure
Giulani

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 5):
Before long we are going to see one of the lower tier candidates; Brownback, Huckabee, maybe even Gingrich make a play for the heart of the GOP and it will be brutal. Abortion, immigration, and enough gay bashing to make Fred Phelps proud will be the hallmarks of the campaign.

Agreed!
Once Newt Gingrich announces his candidacy, it will get very ugly.  yes 
Newt is has ability to launch a very ugly campaign and will do a good job crippling who ever the frontrunner may be. I think he'll hurt Giulani the most. Brownback will swing ever further to the right. It will be funny watching them all trying to court the Haggart and Bob Jones sect of the GOP.

Senators Clinton and Obama will be much more civil in there campaigns.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 969 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 1):
And are you going to post something similar the first time Romney's or Brownback's camp publishes something that touts their 'true' Republican roots, unlike certain others who support abortions and gays?

It's all about choosing sides. Most of us know who here is on which side of the political issues.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
It will be funny watching them all trying to court the Haggart and Bob Jones sect of the GOP.

You don't think they are one and the same, do you?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
Senators Clinton and Obama will be much more civil in there campaigns.

We'll see.

-R


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 963 times:

Very interesting.






















They gave the 1984 Apple girl an I-Pod

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 2):
Wow pretty strong stuff RJ. I love the overtone of the mezmorized masses ... cool.

Umm, You've seen the original commercial right?


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 955 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
Senators Clinton and Obama will be much more civil in there campaigns.

Don't count on it.

I would love to be proven wrong, but considering the state of politics in this country, I fully expect this to be the nastiest campaign we've ever witnessed.



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 943 times:

Pass the popcorn. This is going to be better than the commercials during the SuperBowl.


Proud OOTSK member
User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 941 times:

After obliviously slaughtering several Spanish names, Mittens Romney apparently chose to end a speech in Miami with the words, "Patria o muerte, venceremos!" He intended to emphasize that Cuba should be free. It turns out that phrase is the same one that Castro has used to end his speeches for over 40 years. It translates to, "'Fatherland or death, we shall overcome.''

I'm going to laugh my ass off when clueless, out-of-touch Republican candidates start pretending that they know the needs and desires of American citizens.

Source: http://www.miamiherald.com/460/story/45794.html

Mark

[Edited 2007-03-20 04:18:34]

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 924 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 10):
Don't count on it.

I would love to be proven wrong, but considering the state of politics in this country, I fully expect this to be the nastiest campaign we've ever witnessed.

Expect the pundits and commentators to be very nasty in there assesment of the two candidates. Clinton and Obama personally won't be that nasty to each other.
The problem is that some people want the two to rip each others heads off.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 921 times:

Good commercial.

Unfortunately, the same message could be said about the entire Democrat Party, with all it's interest groups sitting there soaking up the same messages for the past 70 years.

Not much new thinking coming from the Democrats.

But still a very good commercial. I wonder if they'll have the balls to run it on TV.


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 918 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
Clinton and Obama personally won't be that nasty to each other.

You have more faith in politicians than I. While I think Obama would like to run a 'clean' campaign, All of the PACs and even Hillary's campaign is going to get down and dirty, and eventually Obama will respond in kind. I've never seen an example of a candidate, who 'rises above it all', actually succeed at the polls (says something about the American elecotrate  Sad )

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 14):
Not much new thinking coming from the Democrats.

As compared to the progressive and innovative ideas coming from . . . .  Wink



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 917 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 15):
progressive

Now there's a loaded word.


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 898 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 9):
Umm, You've seen the original commercial right?

MD I had not , and at the time I did not know that it was not "sanctioned" by the Obama camp.

I assumed it was from the Obama campaign , It would be pretty stong if it was from them. .. Knowing what I know now ,, its pretty lame.



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