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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 9
Posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

8 years ago today, NATO started the 78-day bombing campaign against Serbia. More than 3,500 civilians were killed. May all the victims, irrespective of their religion, ethnic group, age, gender.... rest in peace.



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Kafa, čaj, šraf?
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User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1368 times:

Quoting JoKeR (Thread starter):
8 years ago today, NATO started the 78-day bombing campaign against Serbia. More than 3,500 civilians were killed. May all the victims, irrespective of their religion, ethnic group, age, gender.... rest in peace.

I hope they rest in pease too, terrible what happened.


How many civillians were killed by the genocide? How come you only remind of us of the NATO bombings?


Cheers,
Kyle


User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5669 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

Interesting that your historical memory begins as late as 1999 and not for example in June 1991...

User currently offlinePaxBCN From Spain, joined Mar 2007, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 1):
How many civilians were killed by the genocide? How come you only remind of us of the NATO bombings?



Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 2):
Interesting that your historical memory begins as late as 1999 and not for example in June 1991...

So you are saying that bombing Serbia was ok? Innocent civilians were deliberately killed in a three month ILLEGAL bombing campaign with "collateral damages" on a daily basis, preceded by that joke NATO staged Ramboulliet negotiations...

And what about the genocide and other crimes against the humanity committed against the Serbs? Never happened?

I'm not trying to absolve the Serbs of any crime they committed in those horrible wars, I only want to point out that there were three, even four parties in those wars and ALL of them did pretty much tha same, but we always get to blame only one of them. It's not fair and historically plain wrong!


User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1269 times:

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 1):
How come you only remind of us of the NATO bombings?

I wish I did not have to remind you about any civilian deaths, anywhere! But the bombing took a personal toll.

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 2):
Interesting that your historical memory begins as late as 1999 and not for example in June 1991...

Boy I wish you went through what we did, then you wouldn't be such a smart ass! What exactly are you trying to pick here?

Quoting PaxBCN (Reply 3):
I'm not trying to absolve the Serbs of any crime they committed in those horrible wars, I only want to point out that there were three, even four parties in those wars and ALL of them did pretty much tha same, but we always get to blame only one of them. It's not fair and historically plain wrong!

See, I wasn't trying to do that in any case, anyone who knows me knows how bitterly opposed I was to the Milosevic regime and everything he and his thugs did to the people of the WHOLE ex-Yugoslavia.



Kafa, čaj, šraf?
User currently offlineN174UA From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1198 times:

That last pic of the building with the smoke and the TV tower is chilling....almost looks like a miniature WTC 1 (North tower) on 9/11.

Hopefully things in that region are better today....perhaps the Olympics will return there again one day.


User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1085 times:

Quoting PaxBCN (Reply 3):
So you are saying that bombing Serbia was ok? Innocent civilians were deliberately killed in a three month ILLEGAL bombing campaign with "collateral damages" on a daily basis, preceded by that joke NATO staged Ramboulliet negotiations...

"Deliberately"? That's a damn bold statement. I hope you have something to back it up with.

Quoting PaxBCN (Reply 3):
I'm not trying to absolve the Serbs of any crime they committed in those horrible wars, I only want to point out that there were three, even four parties in those wars and ALL of them did pretty much tha same, but we always get to blame only one of them.

You're right, it's only the West that ever gets blamed for anything. Everybody else can kill each other (or Westerners) at will, and suffer little to no media backlash. It's as if "they" are just doing what they're supposed to be doing.

Self-loathing westerners unite!


LY744.



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User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1062 times:

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 2):
Interesting that your historical memory begins as late as 1999 and not for example in June 1991...

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While the bombing of Belgrade was tragic the choice to selectively mourn only the Serbian victims highlights precisely what went wrong in the first place and paves the way to future conflicts.

Hundreds of thousands died across the former Yugoslavia during the 90s, and they were all victims of nationalism in one form or another, each tribe must share in the blame. But to this day all we hear from the region is some variation of "my tribe is blameless" or "my tribe suffered the most" It is this blind devotion to one side or another that caused so many to die in the first place and will be the cause of many more deaths in the next great Balkan war.



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