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WWE Wrestling - Anyone Else Enjoy It?  
User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

I'm well into the wrestling - its really entertaining.

Anyone else looking forward to Wrestlemania?


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
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User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

I used to love watching Smackdown & Raw on Friday & Saturday nights (back when it was unscensored on sky sports), but I stopped shortly after they started that whole invasion crap.

I must confess though I have SD vs Raw '07 for my X360, I also tune in occasionally when I see it on. I could get into TNA wrestling I guess, just that 6 posted ring is a bit wierd.

Might tune in for Wrestlemania

Phil
FlyingColours



Lifes a train racing towards you, now you can either run away or grab a chair & a beer and watch it come - Phil
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1992 times:

I watch Raw every week and I love it. Its just fun. I haven't watched Smackdown in forever though. I used to DVR it, but then I would just end up with 10 Smackdowns to catch up on. I don't pay for the PPV's, but I do look forward to the results and such. Mania this year should be a good show though. I thought about getting it, but its also opening night for MLB and my favorite team and my wife's favorite team are playing each other, so we'll be watching that.

User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

So its:

Undertaker v Batista

John Cena v HBK Shawn Michaels.

Umaga v Bobby Lashley

Edge v Matt Hardy v Jeff Hardy v CM Punk v Randy Orton v Mr Kennedy v Finlay v King Booker

Dont we have Kane v Great Khali coming up soon?

Going to be a good one. Big grin



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1970 times:

I used to watch it, but over the past few years I got rather tired of it. I still tend to buy the wrestlemania DVDs from time to time though...

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1962 times:

If Im bored.I do watch it at times.I like the type where one contestant enters the ring every minute.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1943 times:

Been watching wrestling all my life. My buddy's rib me to no end about it because I'm a wrestling encyclopedia. I even have a little pro wrestling training myself. It's always fascinated me for as long as I can remember.

I religiously tune into Raw, although I have to admit it's been getting stale. Every so often tho they turn out a good program. ECW is an abortion now, it's only worth watching to see new talent, and some older, good workers. But there's nothing extreme about it. It's a F'n joke. EC F'n joke. Smackdown is for 10 year olds. Batista is like watching paint dry.

Anyway, great post. Here's my take one WM23:

World Heavyweight Champion Batista vs. Undertaker

Prediction: Undertaker all the way

Each Royal Rumble winner has gone to WM and won a title. Taker is 14-0 and Batista wont be the one to break that streak. Plus if WWE knows what's good for Smackdown, they'll give it to the taker.

WWE Champion John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels

Prediction: Michaels

Cena is getting stale. If he does hold the title, watch for a heel turn.

Battle of the Billionaires

Prediction: Lashley, no question

"Good guys" tend to win at WM, and there's no way they'll make Trump shave his head. I see this one coming a mile away.

Money in the Bank Ladder Match: Orton vs Kennedy vs Finlay vs Mat Hardy vs Jeff Hardy vs Booker vs CM Punk vs Edge

Prediction: Orton

I see a face push coming for him, maybe against a heel Cena. People are already cheering for him. I wouldn't be surprised in CM Punk gets it either. I'd put the odds of winning at 50% for Orton, 25% for Punk, 20% Edge and the rest 1%

ECW Originals vs. New Breed

Prediction: Originals

In this joke of a match (it's not even a hardcore match, but hopefully that's how it's gonna wind up) Dreamer, RVD, Sabu, and Sandman take it based on the "faces always win at WM" theory.

Women's Champion Melina vs. Ashley

Prediction: Ashley

This is the new Trish vs Lita. Both girls can go, and they both can draw heat / pops. I'm a big Melina fan, she's got a great character and sells it well.

Kane vs. The Great Khali

Prediction: Kane (if anyone gives a shit)

United States Champion Chris Benoit vs. MVP

Prediction: MVP (as much as I hate to say it)

My head says MVP, but my heart says Benoit, since he's been my favorite wrestler for years. It's a damn shame they are moving away from his "era" where actual wrestling was back, and the focus was off the jacked up freaks like Batista and Lashley.

Anyway, that's my call. I'll be watching Sunday, check back to see if I'm right.  Wink


User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

Yes I love it with a passion. I have been to 5 lve events in the last 3 years including this past Monday Night Raw here in Chicago 3/26/07. I went to Wrestlemania 22 last year as hell. I even got my grandfather into it.

I can't wait for Mania and if Undertaker looses WWE headquarters will get a visitor!

I mean WWE gives me something new everyweek, no re-runs, no off season, and get drama to boot. I like it!


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1891 times:

World Heavyweight Champion Batista vs. Undertaker

Prediction: Undertaker - His last hurrah and to go out on a high.

WWE Champion John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels

Prediction: Cena - just.

Battle of the Billionaires

Prediction: Lashley - will hammer Umaga into the ground no question. He's bigger, harder, faster, tougher, and much, much fitter - Umaga will get his ass handed to him.

Money in the Bank Ladder Match: Orton vs Kennedy vs Finlay vs Mat Hardy vs Jeff Hardy vs Booker vs CM Punk vs Edge

Prediction: Mr Kennedy - I'd like to see Edge do it again as he's my favourite wrestler, but I cant see any further than the Loudmouthed one.

ECW Originals vs. New Breed

Prediction: Originals


Women's Champion Melina vs. Ashley

Prediction: Melina.

Kane vs. The Great Khali

Prediction: Kane - I give a s**t!

United States Champion Chris Benoit vs. MVP

Prediction: Benoit should tear him to pieces - no way should MVP beat him. I feckin' hope not.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

Like a lot of people here, used to love it but now the storylines are a bit too OTT and they try too hard to sexualise the whole thing. Used to be a lot more like good honest comic-book style fun.

We hosted them all in a hotel I worked in once, was great fun!!

Lots of sharps disposal units requested for the rooms though!!


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1880 times:

I watch what I can get. Only Smackdown is shown on free-TV in Germany, and only one hour per week. Everything else is on Pay-TV, and at times when I have to work, though working at a family business tends to have it's advantages  Wink .
As for WM23, I'm looking forward to it, but as I have posted on other boards, if WWE lets that roided egomaniac Batista end Taker's undefeated streak, I'll be flying to Stamford, CT and with likeminded fans will burn down Titan Towers  devil .
As for the matches, my predictions:
Tista vs Taker:
Taker, if only for the well-being of the Titan Towers

Cena vs Michaels:
Cena, because is invincible (at least according to WWE creative)

BotB:
Lashley, though I really couldn't give a sh!t about this one

MITB:
Even though I want Punk to win, I'd expect a win for MIIISSSTTTTEEEEERRRRR KENNEDY!





KENNEDY!

ECW Soon-to-be-fired anyway Originals vs Talentless New Breed
Originals (and I expect Punk to somehow get involved)

Kane vs Khali
Kane (with the hope that Kane legit uses the hook to rid us all of the Punjabi Killing Maschine)

Benoit vs MVP
Benoit, MVP is simply not ready yet

Melina vs Ashley
Melina, because Ashley can't wrestle for sh!t.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1874 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
Batista end Taker's undefeated streak, I'll be flying to Stamford, CT and with likeminded fans will burn down Titan Towers

Taker is a joke. He doesn't sell for opponents and he acts like he should never lose a match, much less be on the receiveing end of an outburst of punishment. I'm not a big Batista fan, but I'm sick and tired of the Undertaker. He should have retired about 4 years ago.


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1868 times:

Taker might not sell, but he's still a capable wrestler. Just think of his feud with Krazy Kurt, or heck, he even managed to get decent matches out of Mark Henry. As far as his retirement goes, that will happen sooner than later, but at least he should be given one last title reign before he retires. After all, he hasn't really collected many heavyweight titles in his long career, unlike other folks like HBK, HHH, Rocky or SCSA.

User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 8):
Prediction: Lashley - will hammer Umaga into the ground no question. He's bigger, harder, faster, tougher, and much, much fitter - Umaga will get his ass handed to him.



Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
BotB:
Lashley, though I really couldn't give a sh!t about this one

I agree, totally no interest here, and it'll be a shame if they let this be the final match. This one is so predicable it's not even funny.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 8):
Prediction: Mr Kennedy



Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
MITB:
Even though I want Punk to win, I'd expect a win for MIIISSSTTTTEEEEERRRRR KENNEDY!

He's already had a run this year, which is why I say Orton, tho Punk is the true fan's favorite.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
ECW Soon-to-be-fired anyway Originals vs Talentless New Breed
Originals (and I expect Punk to somehow get involved)

What do you know? Are they really gonna let them go? God just when you think they've fuct up ECW the worst.  Yeah sure

I wouldn't know if I'd call the New Breed talentless. Burke and Stryker have the compete package. Thorn has some skills, but not talking is hurting him. The other guy...I can't think of his real name, which says a lot.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 8):
Women's Champion Melina vs. Ashley

Prediction: Melina.



Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
Melina vs Ashley
Melina, because Ashley can't wrestle for sh!t.

I don't know about that, Ashley can go, but there's no doubt Melina is the most talented (save for Mickie James) I just don't see any way around Ashley winning this. She's coming off a huge push, and these two are arguably the most talented, and the most likely to pull off a long term feud. Melina will win it back, but the "faces always win at WM" theory holds here.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 8):
Kane vs. The Great Khali

Prediction: Kane - I give a s**t!



Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
Kane vs Khali
Kane (with the hope that Kane legit uses the hook to rid us all of the Punjabi Killing Maschine)

I'm a huge Kane fan, don't get me wrong, but this is gonna be a popcorn match. Kahali is painful to watch, and another reminder of why WWE has been so stale lately.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 8):
United States Champion Chris Benoit vs. MVP

Prediction: Benoit should tear him to pieces - no way should MVP beat him. I feckin' hope not.



Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
Benoit vs MVP
Benoit, MVP is simply not ready yet

I really hope I'm wrong about this one, but SmackDown is in bad shape, and they need more top contenders. A win here puts MVP in that category. The usually give a heel one match at WM, and I think this is the one.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1851 times:

Taker cannot wrestle. His reprotior of moves is about as extensive as LHMark's subafed excuse for why he acted like an ass at the pub the night before. While I like the dead man gimmick, to return to it after being the American Badass (while it was cool originally) just isn't working. I mean with a flick of the switch, he is all supernatural again? Come on. Taker is all gimmick and very little skill...at least these days.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 13):
I don't know about that, Ashley can go, but there's no doubt Melina is the most talented (save for Mickie James) I just don't see any way around Ashley winning this. She's coming off a huge push, and these two are arguably the most talented, and the most likely to pull off a long term feud. Melina will win it back, but the "faces always win at WM" theory holds here.

The face always wins theory is usually only given to the Heavyweight title. HHH is the only Heel who ever left Mania with the HW Title. As far as the chicks go. Melina has a LOT of skill (to match that a LOT of rack she sports   ) and Mickey James is another capable female...the rest are pretty sad. Wendy Richter is probably pissed! I haven't seen enough of Ashley in ring to make an accurate comment on her skills.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 13):
I'm a huge Kane fan, don't get me wrong, but this is gonna be a popcorn match. Kahali is painful to watch, and another reminder of why WWE has been so stale lately.

I like Kane as well, and its about time they stop making him get beat all the time. Plus Kahali just sucks. Big men like that don't belong in wrestling only because I have a hard time believing that pretty much anyone would be able to beat them.

[Edited 2007-03-29 16:25:44]

User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 14):
As far as the chicks go. Melina has a LOT of skill (to match that a LOT of rack she sports ) and Mickey James is another capable female...the rest are pretty sad. Wendy Richter is probably pissed! I haven't seen enough of Ashley in ring to make an accurate comment on her skills

Ashley can wrestle, they just really haven't been using her a lot in that capacity. She had pro training even before the diva search. She can put together a decent match, and since there's a good amount of heat w/ this feud, it might actually make this one watchable.

Melina, Ashley, Mickie, and Victoria can go. Jillian isn't bad either. Torrie and Maria show some skill sometimes but will never be taken seriously, and I've heard Finlay is really working with Candice. I think Michelle has a lot of potential too. The rest are just hood ornaments.

Quoting KROC (Reply 14):
Plus Kahali just sucks. Big men like that don't belong in wrestling only because I have a hard time believing that pretty much anyone would be able to beat them.

I was wondering why they only have 8 matches this year. Then it dawned on me that it's gonna take Khali 45 minutes to walk down to the ring.

In all seriousness, no tag team title match, with all the good tag teams they have? London & Kendrick, Cryme Time, MNM, Benjamin and Haas, Murdoch and Cade, Highlanders? Not even a fatal four way? Sad.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 15):
I was wondering why they only have 8 matches this year. Then it dawned on me that it's gonna take Khali 45 minutes to walk down to the ring.

HAHAHA!

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 15):
In all seriousness, no tag team title match, with all the good tag teams they have? London & Kendrick, Cryme Time, MNM, Benjamin and Haas, Murdoch and Cade, Highlanders? Not even a fatal four way? Sad.

The WWE fails terribly at 2 things. Properly using cruiserweight wrestlers and pushing the tag team division. The cruiserweights can be phenomenal and they can do moves that most can only dream of. The WWE is always worried about injury which is respectable, however the product suffers because of it. As far as tag teams...its been a long time since the tag division was any good. Murdoch and Cade suck. However with the influx of the Highlanders and Cryme Time, I thought they were going to try and revamp the division. Instead, CT and the Highlanders haven't been on TV in weeks and Cena and Michaels are tag champs. I hate when they do crap like that.


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1840 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 16):
The WWE fails terribly at 2 things. Properly using cruiserweight wrestlers and pushing the tag team division. The cruiserweights can be phenomenal and they can do moves that most can only dream of. The WWE is always worried about injury which is respectable, however the product suffers because of it. As far as tag teams...its been a long time since the tag division was any good. Murdoch and Cade suck. However with the influx of the Highlanders and Cryme Time, I thought they were going to try and revamp the division. Instead, CT and the Highlanders haven't been on TV in weeks and Cena and Michaels are tag champs. I hate when they do crap like that.

No one beats the Heart Foundation or Demolition or the Super Powers or the Twin Towers or High Energy or the Nasty Boys..THOSE were tag teams!



Go big or go home
User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1840 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 13):
What do you know? Are they really gonna let them go? God just when you think they've fuct up ECW the worst.

Well, what I know is:
-WWE is p!ssed at Sabu's backstage behavior, like falling asleep, and of course botching quite a few of his moves (and while I'm a Sabu mark, I gotta say he is getting painful to watch)
-RVD is still p!ssed at WWE for being held back (though it was his maryjane-influenced driving that caused him to be dropped anyway), and his contract is up soon, and TNA is waving with big money
-WWE supposedly doesn't like the Sandman too much either due to backstage and on-screen behavior
-And TD was already "downrated" to a road agent before the return of ECW, so while he might not be let go, I doubt he'll contiue to be an active wrestler for too long, or he'll become a perma-jobber alongside Stevie Richards...

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 13):
I wouldn't know if I'd call the New Breed talentless. Burke and Stryker have the compete package. Thorn has some skills, but not talking is hurting him. The other guy...I can't think of his real name, which says a lot.

Burke, I'd agree, I'm still not so convinced about Striker. Thorn, well, he is better now than as Mordecai, but still just another Big Man. And Marcus Cor Von aka Monty Brown, well, he was crappy in TNA, and he's crappy in WWE.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 13):
but there's no doubt Melina is the most talented (save for Mickie James) I just don't see any way around Ashley winning this.

Don't you forget Victoria. She might not get to show it, but she's still one tough little b!tch. Same goes for Trinity, if only WWE would let her wrestle.

Quoting KROC (Reply 14):
Taker cannot wrestle. His reprotior of moves is about as extensive as LHMark's subafed excuse for why he acted like an ass at the pub the night before. While I like the dead man gimmick, to return to it after being the American Badass (while it was cool originally) just isn't working. I mean with a flick of the switch, he is all supernatural again? Come on. Taker is all gimmick and very little skill...at least these days.

A gimmick that still says, and while agree the whole stuff going from ABA to Deadman was unrealistic, IMHO, his returning intro at WMXX remains one of the most impressive entrances ever, still gives me goosebump.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 15):
In all seriousness, no tag team title match, with all the good tag teams they have? London & Kendrick, Cryme Time, MNM, Benjamin and Haas, Murdoch and Cade, Highlanders? Not even a fatal four way? Sad.

Supposedly, there will be a Tag Team Battle Royal that will be taped prior to the actual WM to be put on the DVD.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1832 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 17):
No one beats the Heart Foundation or Demolition or the Super Powers or the Twin Towers or High Energy or the Nasty Boys..THOSE were tag teams!

Don't forget the British Bulldogs and teams from the NWA like the MIdnight Express, Road Warriors, even the Rock 'N' Roll Express!

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18):
-RVD is still p!ssed at WWE for being held back (though it was his maryjane-influenced driving that caused him to be dropped anyway), and his contract is up soon, and TNA is waving with big money

I never liked RVD and don't get what other people like about him...other than he caters to the blunt burners. If he would put that shit down, maybe he would develop a personality. Plus all his matches are more predictable than Brett Hart and his 5 moves of doom!

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18):
Don't you forget Victoria. She might not get to show it, but she's still one tough little b!tch. Same goes for Trinity, if only WWE would let her wrestle.

Victoria is a good wrestler, my bad. I remember when she first stepped out of the hoe train. She was ripped. 6 pack and all. Not any more as she has been transformed to more eye candy than wrestler.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18):
A gimmick that still says, and while agree the whole stuff going from ABA to Deadman was unrealistic, IMHO, his returning intro at WMXX remains one of the most impressive entrances ever, still gives me goosebump.

I hear ya, but the entrance has worn on me.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18):
Supposedly, there will be a Tag Team Battle Royal that will be taped prior to the actual WM to be put on the DVD.

Battle Royals are bad enough to begin with, but a Tag Team Battle Royal is just terrible.

Another thing missing from wrestling these days are factions! Gone are the days of the 4 Horsemen and more recently the Nation of Domination, Evolution and DX (when they had more than 2 members).


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1826 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 19):
Don't forget the British Bulldogs and teams from the NWA like the MIdnight Express, Road Warriors, even the Rock 'N' Roll Express!

Also the Rockers, The Natural Disasters and the Bushwhackers



Go big or go home
User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1825 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 16):
However with the influx of the Highlanders and Cryme Time, I thought they were going to try and revamp the division. Instead, CT and the Highlanders haven't been on TV in weeks and Cena and Michaels are tag champs. I hate when they do crap like that.

That's chaffing my ass. All the tag teams they've had bust on the scene big time, and then get dropped. I saw a huge upside for the Highlanders as the new age Bushwackers....and Cryme Time had titles all over them. WWE has too much talent and not enough TV time.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18):
-WWE is p!ssed at Sabu's backstage behavior, like falling asleep, and of course botching quite a few of his moves (and while I'm a Sabu mark, I gotta say he is getting painful to watch)
-RVD is still p!ssed at WWE for being held back (though it was his maryjane-influenced driving that caused him to be dropped anyway), and his contract is up soon, and TNA is waving with big money
-WWE supposedly doesn't like the Sandman too much either due to backstage and on-screen behavior
-And TD was already "downrated" to a road agent before the return of ECW, so while he might not be let go, I doubt he'll contiue to be an active wrestler for too long, or he'll become a perma-jobber alongside Stevie Richards...

Sabu and RVD did it to themselves, no question. Sandman is a shell of his former self, but all three can make a hardcore match (if WWE would allow it, I mean, God forbid, it is ECW after all) I really feel bad for Dreamer, cause he can work his ass off. I was happy to see him win that battle royal a few weeks ago. I was hoping they'd push him up...guess not.

You might know, why did WWE drop the hardcore matches? It's like ECW is now a glorified farm territory.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18):
Burke, I'd agree, I'm still not so convinced about Striker. Thorn, well, he is better now than as Mordecai, but still just another Big Man.

Burke has "it". I'm high on Striker, he's easily hatable and can put together a match. His ones w/ Punk a while back were standouts imho. Thorn I like, he's more than just a punch / kick big man, he's got some unique moves.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18):
And Marcus Cor Von aka Monty Brown, well, he was crappy in TNA, and he's crappy in WWE.

He's a one move wrestler.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18):
Don't you forget Victoria. She might not get to show it, but she's still one tough little b!
tch. Same goes for Trinity, if only WWE would let her wrestle.

I didnt.  Wink

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 15):
Melina, Ashley, Mickie, and Victoria can go.

But she'll never be over. She's a good worker to put one of the face girls over, but that's all she's got now. No one really cares about her, which is unfortunate.


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 21):
and Cryme Time had titles all over them.

Though not necessarily titles they actually won  Silly .

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 21):
it is ECW after all)



Quoting B777-700 (Reply 21):
You might know, why did WWE drop the hardcore matches? It's like ECW is now a glorified farm territory.

Well, there's a reason ECW is being referred to as "Extreme Velocity" these days  Wink . Looking back at it, Vince only launched WWECW in hopes of making money off the hype around the two past ONS's, though he soon dropped that and turned WWECW into just another WWE brand. And IMHO, the only real good thing so far to have come out of this new ECW is CM Punk.
And the even sadder thing is:
As much as ECW sucks, it still continues to have better ratings than IMPACT Big grin .

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 21):
He's a one move wrestler.

I wouldn't even call his POUNCE a move, more of a glorified football tackle. Heck, Edge's spear look more believable than this.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 21):
No one really cares about her, which is unfortunate.

Sad but true  Sad .


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 21):
WWE has too much talent and not enough TV time.

This is a good point. I would almost consider making Raw a 3 hour show, but that might start being too much. I think the separation of brands (Raw and Smackdown) is holding both brands down. They should go back to the way it was with one roster, one HW Champ, one set of tag champs etc. That way those that should be on T.V. will. CT while very stereotypical was funny and they could wrestle. They were a throwback to the teams of old. One big power guy, the other smaller and more acrobatic etc. ECW is a joke. I watched it for a couple weeks then turned it right off.

I also understand that with the WWE keeping 2 brands, they are keeping more talant away from TNA and any other competitor that might emerge. Competition is what makes the business. Right after WCW folded, the WWE got complacent. TNA sucks. I used to watch them every week, and while some of the stuff is alright, overall its just 3rd class writing and story telling that helps hide the fact the wrestling is pretty good. Plus that 6 sided ring is lame.


User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1813 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 22):
As much as ECW sucks, it still continues to have better ratings than IMPACT

haha God that's sad.

Quoting KROC (Reply 23):
They should go back to the way it was with one roster, one HW Champ, one set of tag champs etc.

They're moving in that direction. I read recently all the PPV's this year are gonna feature all three brands. You may have noticed a lot of cross overs lately too, tho there's no "inter-brand" match ups this year, save the girls match, if you want to count that.

Quoting KROC (Reply 23):
CT while very stereotypical was funny and they could wrestle.

I had a feeling that's what did them in, much like Muhamad Hassan, who IMHO had a great character.

Quoting KROC (Reply 23):
TNA sucks. I used to watch them every week, and while some of the stuff is alright, overall its just 3rd class writing and story telling that helps hide the fact the wrestling is pretty good. Plus that 6 sided ring is lame.

I'm with you. I try to watch it mostly for Angle and Christian, but it's just too much of the old WCW influence and that's makes it unbearable to me.


25 KROC : I don't think their gimmick did them in. They were way over as faces despite having the heel-type gimmick. They will be back. Since all the tag teams
26 Dragon-wings : I think WWE needs to go back to one brand. I mean how many times can we watch London & Kendrick vs. Deuce and Domino. I also think Booker T need to st
27 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Not necessarily. Just keep Vince of WWE televesion, and voila, between Raw, Smackdown and ECW, you will have at least an hour of TV time that could b
28 Post contains images B777-700 : Tru dat. Lawler is long overdue, and I was genuinely very thankful that they thought of JR, with all the BS they put him thru, and the twice he's alm
29 Post contains images DAL767400ER : WWE doesn't give a sh!t about making pretty girls actual wrestlers. Just look at Christy Hemme, she actually wanted to learn how to wrestle, and look
30 N776AU : It's kind of dead to me. I used to love wrestling when WCW was at its prime (NWO Black and White anyone?)
31 Post contains images B777-700 : Finlay is training her. If that doesn't toughen her up, nothing will...lol. Actually Finlay has Trish to his credit too. I'd say I'm jealous of his j
32 Post contains images DAL767400ER : No doubt about that, and running from Little Bastard, I mean Hornswoggle, can also only be good for stamina . Oh yeah, forgot about that. Can't remem
33 Post contains images Gkirk : You're both forgetting the Rock and Sock connection Whatever happened to Ken Shamrock?
34 DAL767400ER : Left the WWF in 1999, had two seperate month-long stints in TNA, and mainly has been in the UFC, if I recall correctly.
35 AA61Hvy : Shamrock fought Tito Ortiz in the UFC last year, Shamrock was knocked out quicker than LHMark having Nyquil and Patron... Shamrock is done.
36 Post contains images B777-700 : Yes, Hornswoggle. Cause we all know saying "bastard" is just too edgy for SmackDown / CW network. Hahah, what were you expecting? HHH is still the be
37 Dragon-wings : True. Instead of Mr Perfect I think Ted Dibiase, Ricky Steamboat, or Bruno Sammartino would of been better choices. I personally think Mr Perfect is
38 DAL767400ER : Angle's been talking sh!t about fighting anybody in UFC, be it Shamrock, Ortiz, Couture, or even the loser Puder. Perhaps, but he's still a main even
39 Dragon-wings : Speaking of retirement I think Rick Flair should of retired 4 or 5 years ago! All he does now is a few chops and the figure 4 leg lock and a lot of w
40 KROC : With the exception of the Arquette debacle, I thought Russo had a lot of good ideas. However the structure of WCW is what really lead to its downfall
41 Post contains images DAL767400ER : While I agree he should retire from active wrestling, he should remain as a manager or similar, because he can still work the mic like only few other
42 Post contains images KROC : I might be dating myself here, but he should go into a role like James J. Dillon had in the '80's in the NWA as the manager of the 4 Horsemen. Come o
43 B777-700 : That's true, but man he's looking aweful lately. He's really showing his age. I thought he should have retired after that ladder match w/ Edge a few
44 AsstChiefMark : Real wrestling died when they stopped showing matches in black-and-white. Today, it's just a well-scripted soap opera. I've always wondered how much w
45 KROC : Psssst. It was scriped back then too!
46 Post contains images B777-700 : (SPOILER ALERT!!!) Man, I sucked the gasp pipe this year...3-5 Kinda predictable, Taker rules and takes the title. No big shocks. Cena wins it clean,
47 Falcon84 : I used to be. I can remember the old days of the NWA/WCW, and the WWF 20 years ago. But to me, it's become almost obscene in many ways. If I want to s
48 B777-700 : It's not really like this anymore. That was about 7 years ago. Smackdown is very kid friendly. Raw really isn't that bad, and hell, ECW is watered do
49 Falcon84 : Uh huh. I peeked in on a show just last year, and one of the ladies fell out of her bikini top. Sex sells. We all know that, and Mr. McMahon sure doe
50 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Well, WM23 has passed, and IMHO, it was a so-so show. MITB stole the show, as expected, and Kennedy winning was no surprise, though I was still hoping
51 Post contains images Fumanchewd : Errr, no. That is faker then a pair of tits on a Scottsdale socialite. Greco-Roman and Sumo are are real wrestling. I competed for a couple of years
52 Bizjetslover : I used to be a big fan between I think late 1983 and early 1993... One of the first things I saw was the match between Hogan and The Iron Sheik (sp?)
53 KROC : You have to pay extra for the playboy channel. If I can get it for the price of my cable subscription, rock on! I've been watching wrestling since we
54 B777-700 : An isolated incident. That was after she was told not to do that by the creative staff. She did that on purpose "accidentally" to get more votes in t
55 KROC : Cena is over right now, so they are riding his wave. Its nowhere near as bad as when HHH was winning all the time. In every damn Main Event. Never jo
56 Pyrex : I don't know I no-one likes Khali, he is a pretty impressive fighter (well man.... well, animal.... well...). Did anyone see that Royal Rumble where
57 B777-700 : Good point, but he's about to start getting X-Pac heat. I mean, at least turn him bad, his character is getting stale, and they're running out of uni
58 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Indeed. As much as I mark out for spotfests (MITB, or the ladder match at Armageddon (MOTY)), but I still get a kick out of wrestling matches that ac
59 KROC : Cena was getting boo's when he was up against HHH. Some against Edge, but Edge clearly had more heat. Cena's character might not be running as hard a
60 Pyrex : Some of those can actually hurt (a headbutt to the chest, specially) but a tumble? Why doesn't he just walk against his opponent? I find it really am
61 B777-700 : As an extension of that question, who do they put Cena up against now? Hell, they had to reach to get Kevin Federline over as a heel to give someone
62 DAL767400ER : As I've said before, I'd expect Mr Kennedy to appear on Raw in the foreseeable future to challenge Cena for the title, after Cena of course had his r
63 B777-700 : haha, that makes things worse for Cena! Off topic, but with Wrestlemania 24 in Whorlando next year, I might just try to make that. When do tickets ty
64 AirTran737 : Cany you use the money in the bank shot for either title? Kennedy needs to stay on Smackdown, he is not Raw worthy.
65 KROC : Yeah, I really don't see who his next feud will be against. Maybe Orton? Unless he is in trouble for that whole HGH thing. Any pretty boy will get ch
66 B777-700 : It already got a month off for that. All that stuff predated the substance abuse policy. Even still, Orton is already getting cheered. There's just n
67 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Yes, in theory, Kennedy could challenge either Cena, Taker or Lashley. Perhaps, but WWE tends to think differently. Besides, we have already seen a T
68 KROC : Orton's name just surfaced a couple weeks back for the HGH, so I doubt he has landed a 30 day suspension and served it already. I know Chris Masters
69 AAFLT1871 : Memories from Childhood. Bring Back Slick
70 KROC : Slick, a man from an era where managers were as key to the business as the wrestlers were.
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