AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5826 times:
Norfolk Southern released their new EMD F9 locomotives for their first run today. They're painted in the old Southern Railway's traditional black, white, & gold livery. I like the way they recessed the ditch lights. The bottom photo shows Southern's livery from 50 years ago.
N229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1850 posts, RR: 36 Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5801 times:
57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5779 times:
Hope they sound insulated the cab-older carbody locomotives suck when it comes to cab noise. Es and Fs are nice looking but I sure wouldn't want to draw one in summertime in the South-you'd bake to death in one. Unlike the hood units such as the GP/SD series, their cabs had very poor airflow-especially at low speeds. At least on units like the GP-7, you could lash the cab door open and get a nice breeze. I've done that too many times.
A little bit of trivia-Southern had a set of Fs that they kept for office car specials. I don't recall exactly what became of that group but they were active as late as 1986.Personally I think the black and gray isn't so hot-they'd have done better to have repainted the locomotives in the Southern passenger colors of green, gold and gray or the Tuscan Red and gold of the office car sets.
Quoting N229NW (Reply 3): Great livery too (NS liveries in general...)
They're better than they originally were. Seems to me that I recall that a number of NS (and former NS) engine and train men made unofficial modifications to the Thoroughbred for some time after the merger (ex-NW and SR folks).
"When a man runs on railroads over half of his lifetime he is fit for nothing else-and at times he don't know that."
AC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5741 times:
Quoting AsstChiefMark (Thread starter): Norfolk Southern released their new EMD F9 locomotives for their first run today.
"New" as in newly constructed or "new" as in "We found this F9 rusting somewhere so we immediately re-painted it and entered it into service as a one-off historic deal for all you train nuts so enjoy it you cheeky bastards"?
Better to be nouveau than never to have been riche at all.
BMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 62 Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5711 times:
Quoting AC773 (Reply 10): Now for all the rest of you: my first post in this thread was rather poorly worded, but I'd still like to know: Is this a new, off-the-assembly-line locomotive, or just a repainted and redone classic hauler?
It's a rebuilt and repainted classic hauler
Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 4): NS bought them, stripped them, and started from scratch
Flyorski From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 978 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5669 times:
Great Locomotives, I love the F9! I like the paint they put on them, they should go to that for all engines, their current one has too much black.....
"None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsly believe they are free" -Goethe
N231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5647 times:
Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 13): They wanted to use the same prime mover as found in all 500 of their GP38-2 locomotives. It makes maintenance easier.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5635 times:
Nice, but the old green, white, and gold Southern livery is better looking to me (As displayed on this E8 which is on display at the Southeastern Railway Museum up in Duluth):
KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12022 posts, RR: 43 Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5623 times:
Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 16): They reportedly have interiors similar to their SD70M locomotives.
One thing I've never understood, why does the engineer sit sideways here in the US?
Compare to a similar Norwegian locomotive, the Di-3 (Norwegian type name) which is very similar on the outside:
I am not sure, but I guess it probably dates to the days of steam locomotives. This was when engineers had that huge boiler in front so they had to look through small windows on either side.
Kinda like the GP9, although its a diesel-electric:
AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5601 times:
Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 19): One thing I've never understood, why does the engineer sit sideways here in the US?
Each railroad specifies their choice of controls: Traditional control stands vs. desk controls vs. hybrid controls. Here is the same make and model of locomotive with different controls:
Compare to a similar Norwegian locomotive, the Di-3 (Norwegian type name) which is very similar on the outside:
The picture of the Di-3 really takes me back. It is from the Oslo East station with its long, wooden platform, before they put the railroad in a tunnel under the city and renamed it to Oslo Centrral.
As you might notice, the Di-3 is double-ended and the roof is more rounded to fit through European Standard tunnels and it has 6-wheel trucks. They were built in Sweden by NOHAB. The power is still all GM.
Most of the Di-3s were scrapped, 2 or 3 of them still are used for emergency services as no other locomotive seems to have their capabilities, and I understand 4 of them were sent to Kosovo to help rebuild their rail-system.
Scooter
"We all have a girl and her name is nostalgia" - Hemingway
AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5518 times:
Here's a collection of the past two days' photos. Today, the trio of F locos and special GP38-2 hauled a charter train from Altoona, PA to the Master's Tournament in Augusta, GA. The train includes 15 former Norfolk & Western coaches and a special NS boxcar as a baggage car (full of golf clubs?).
KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12022 posts, RR: 43 Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5497 times:
Quoting Scooter01 (Reply 24): Most of the Di-3s were scrapped, 2 or 3 of them still are used for emergency services as no other locomotive seems to have their capabilities, and I understand 4 of them were sent to Kosovo to help rebuild their rail-system.
25 AsstChiefMark: Street running in Augusta, Georgia.
26 Scooter01: The Swedes also used an all electric locomotive with the "bulldog nose" look - the RAPID http://www.gm-gruppen.no/images/rapid.jpg http://hem.bredband
27 N229NW: Thanks. (And keep the pictures coming!) I like all the black in the regular NS livery, and the stripes. For some reason it really works for me, espec
28 AsstChiefMark: How about a video? Unrelated bonus shot from a couple days ago:
29 KaiGywer: Interesting concept with the flashing headlights. Is that normal on all trains over here?
30 N231YE: As far as I know, yes. From what my father has stated (when working around active railroads), the lights flash when the train is moving, and are stea
31 AsstChiefMark: Normally, they're both steady burn. Some railroads program them to start alternating when the horn or bell is activated. Some use oscillating Mars or
32 AsstChiefMark: Rounding the bend at Cornwell, South Carolina. More street running in Augusta, Georgia.
33 LASOctoberB6: besides AMTKs Genesis P40s, that is my favorite engine the EMD F9. i never knew that engine was from the fifties till about 6 months ago when i was f
34 AsstChiefMark: On the internet. I've been monitoring the usual railfan sites. Mark
35 LASOctoberB6: oh, i do that too...did Amtrak ever have F9s?
36 AsstChiefMark: No F9's that I recall, but they had a few F7, E8, and E9 versions.
38 ATAIndy: I agree, but I think the black in more NS style.
39 LASOctoberB6: green and white just dont go together, green and black is more like it...!
40 AsstChiefMark: But, those are Burlington Northern's colors!
41 57AZ: That depends. Locomotives that are used in commercial service are required to have the ditch lights. However, railroads can be exempted from installi
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