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User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1031 times:

Recently at my school in England we were asked:
''Who considers themself to be European?''
Out of a year group of about 250 15-16 year-olds NOT ONE person considered themeselves European.
A national news paper asked a similar question and the outcome was just as 'non-European'.
Personally I concider myself English and British.
I've nothing against Europe, but I'm NOT European.

If you're a young person from Europe how do you feel?

Cheers, merci, gracias, danker,obrigada (sorry if I missed you out!)
Jamie 

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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 901 times:

Hello Englandair,

My friend is staying is East Sussex now... I suppose it is also in England. Well, his school proposed this too. He considered himself as non-european too. He said he was English and British... not european...

Just thoughts of my friend,

Alvin



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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 857 times:

This is funny. Even Swiss who do not belong to the EU consider themselves European. Britain belongs to EU and to European continent aswell.

User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 831 times:

Hello Englandair,

I am not surprised at all by the response on your class. I spend one year in England (or Britain, or UK...as you like). I was really impressed how people living in London even considered those living in near towns like Canterbury or Birmingham as "foreigners" or "outsiders". And not to mention if you came from Scotland or Wales...However, the Scottish or Welsh did considered being European as well as the Irish when I spoke with them.

Come on English people, relax and be friends with the rest of the world! we dont bite!

Lima


User currently offlineA student From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 826 times:

Am I European?

Hmmm, I am German born, lived there (Siegen and Munich) for most of my life with a brief period in Luxemburg, then I came here (to England) one year ago and now I feel British enough to jokingly call my German friends "Krauts".... and still I consider myself an American more than anything else...

I hate the idea of belonging to any country (Germany) or agricultural Union of interest (Europe) or Darwinian island where evolution has stopped long enough to let people drive on the WRONG side of the road (England), and not even the home country of Boeing (USA) is something I deeply believe in.

I am a human, and that is all I ever want to be. I hate the idea that I should belong to any group based on the single, stupid commonality that we were born in the same billion square metres of land.... and the commonality of language is no reason either: I prefer English to German, even though German is my mother tongue.


Britain should join the Euro, though, because I get my money in DM and it is getting less and less every month...


User currently offlineJoge From Finland, joined Feb 2000, 1444 posts, RR: 39
Reply 5, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 800 times:

Hi,

This is what can I say about myself: I've borned in Greece, living in Finland and speaking Finnish as well as Greece (fluently, of course) plus English and Swedish. I've been in Sweden, Estonia, UK, Germany, Italy etc.; I'm European! ()-)

-Joge



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User currently offlineGyro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 784 times:

I belong, as my passport says, to the European Comunity!!! And I love it.... If you'd ask me however, what my nationality is I'd be more than glad to say German. Born there of german parents and lived in Denmark, Spain and of course Germany. Haven't lived in the European continent for a while though, and the more away from it I am, the more European I feel....

User currently offlineTP1685 From Portugal, joined Mar 2000, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 770 times:

Well, I was born in Portugal...so I'm Portuguese...but...I'm also European, and I just love it!!!


User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 762 times:

I don't think I ever considered myself European. I definitely don't now, but even when I lived in the UK, I was English, and NOT European. The United Kingdom isn't Europe. The UK has a much more conservative outlook!

LH423



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User currently offlineSAS_A330-300 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 739 times:

I am borned in Sweden and still live here. I speak swedish, english and a bit spanish. I have been in:
Finland, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Germany, the Netherlands (Holland), Belgium, Luxemburg, France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Austria and Czech Republic. Well, that a lot of countries. So I feel both swedish and european.

Best Regards, Simon Larsson


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 731 times:

I consider myself firstly as being British, secondly as European, recognising that Europe is a family of nations with similar (not identical) ways of life, beliefs, culture, social classes and political agendas etc.

To the person who said we drive on the wrong side of the road: What's wrong with driving on the left side of the road; what's right about driving on the opposite side?? The answer is that it's not right or wrong, it's only better than driving in the middle of the road!


User currently offlineAa737 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 849 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 729 times:

When I lived in England for a number of years I did notice that the English never really refered to them selves as European. I am not at all suprised that all teh people in your school didn't consider them selves European.

User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 718 times:

Just pointing out that we (the English etc.) drive on the CORRECT SIDE of the road. It's all to do with horse whips and bushes(!).....but I can't be bothered to explain!

User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 717 times:

Just pointing out that we (the English etc.) drive on the CORRECT SIDE of the road. It's all to do with horse whips and bushes(!).....but I can't be bothered to explain!

User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 706 times:

SORRY, didn't mean to post it twice 

User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 701 times:

To all of you who can't speak Norwegian, Swedish, or Danish; Sorry if you can't understand what I'm writing.


Til Simon Larsson.

Hei, siden du er Svensk så skriver jeg "skandinavisk" for jeg er Norsk.

Det jeg lurte på var om SAS skal skaffe seg A330-300, ettersom det er brukernavnet ditt. eller håper du bare på at de en gang skal få det?

Håper du forstod alt jag skrev.

Hilsen Thom@s  



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineA student From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 696 times:

Hehehehe....

Of course it is the wrong side - even the words "the right side" define which side to drive on....

After going metric (hallelujah!) it is now time for Britain to do the next logical step in necessary adjustment: Start driving on the right-hand-side of the road! Lorry-drivers first, of course...

Writing "Look left" on the floor is all quite nice - but isn't that just a poort replacement for the full fun of driving like a clear-thinking European/American/African/Asian/non-Islander?


User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 691 times:

IDIOT!

User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 686 times:

To Englandair and A student:

First of all, does this discussion have anything to do with aviation at all?

Secondly, I seem to recall that name calling wasn't alloed.

And thirdly, I think the british have the right to drive on wich ever side they want to, as long as they keep to that one side. Besides, one can only imagine the problems that would appear if Britain were to change sides.

Thom@s.



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 19, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 684 times:

Nevermind my first comment. I just realissed I was in the non-aviation forum.

Thom@s. 



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineA student From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 664 times:

Okay - just joking about changing sides - even I can see it is too late to improve British road-navigation at this stage. That does not mean the British would be driving on the correct side of the road, though. But just imagine what happens if they ever build the Eurotunnel for cars - a crossing in the middle?

It is a danger factor if all tourists coming to England - and all English tourists abroad - drive in completely alien circumstances. Seen from a democratical point of view: England is in the minority - so they should have adjusted before cars got too popular. Too late now....


User currently offlineA student From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 655 times:

Your reply shows all the thought, intelligence and calm expected of a teenager - how should teenagers ever be treated equal to other members on this forum if people like you interfere - getting us all a bad reputation. If you cannot take a joke you might not belong on a forum like this.

Maybe if you were less nationalist (your island is closer to France and EUROPE than to Ireland - and still you refuse to consider yourself European) you would be able to reply in a wiser way...


User currently offlineNJTurnpike From United States of America, joined May 2000, 580 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 656 times:

You have to wonder how the people of Sweden coped on the morning of September 3rd 1967. That's when their traffic system moved from driving on the left to driving on the right. Swedes were against the proposal, 82.9% of the driving population were said to be against the move at one point. It happened anyway. How do you think the same change would be received in the UK?

~NJTurnpike



User currently offlineA student From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 651 times:

Hey - I already said it is too late, now that cars are so popular. But thanks anyway for telling me about Sweden - I did not know about this and it is an interesting fact to remember and look up...

User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (13 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 649 times:

Which side of the road does India drive on? That's a lot of people. What about China (even more people)? Also, I know Japan drives on the left side of the road like in the U.K. I imagine a lot of the former British colonies drive on the left.

The only places I've been that drove on the left are LHR and Freeport, Bahammas. It sure is different!


25 Post contains images LH423 : Places that drive on the left include (but are not limited to, this is only my personal knowledge): UK Ireland South Africa Australia New Zealand Japa
26 NJTurnpike : You could say that drivers from the continent, US and so forth are slower and more careful as a result of being unfamiliar with driving on the other s
27 Post contains images Mls515 : I think all that would be necessary an an ordinary 2 or 4 lane road would be two traffic lights for the two different directions. Kinda like when a 2
28 Post contains images NJTurnpike : Mls515, now that is an inspired use of Paintbrush The second idea looks better, simply because of better traffic flow. Never thought of that design be
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