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Tel Aviv To Cairo By Train?  
User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7638 times:

Hey everyone, I was just wondering if there are any trains in the summer between Tel Aviv and Cairo. There is only one non-stop flight on El Al that operates only 4-5 times a week that leaves in the middle of the night. Are there trains or any other convenient ways of getting to Cairo from Tel Aviv? Thanks.


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7615 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Thread starter):
re there trains or any other convenient ways of getting to Cairo from Tel Aviv?

There's no trains.

Try bus or car.


LY744.



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User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7602 times:

Quoting LY744 (Reply 1):
There's no trains.

Screw it then, guess I'll just take the LY flight that leaves at 2:30 in the morning.



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlinePAHS200 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7597 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 2):
Screw it then, guess I'll just take the LY flight that leaves at 2:30 in the morning.

does anyone know why it leaves so early


User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7594 times:

Quoting PAHS200 (Reply 3):
does anyone know why it leaves so early

No, but TLV used to have a curfew between ~0130 and 0530 or 0600 because of noise issues. The runway configuration hasn't changed since, so I'm not sure why there's flights scheduled to leave after 0130, maybe the hours got shifted.


LY744.



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User currently offlineELAL 744 From Israel, joined Jun 2000, 170 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7532 times:
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Back during the British Mandate there was a train from Cairo to Beirut and Damascus that ran through Tel Aviv
If you go with someone who knows, he will be able to point out the tracks that are still in the asphalt. This train died after Israeli independence and the subsequent state of war that existed.
Shame



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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 7519 times:

There are very good flights on Royal Jordanian via Amman from TLV to CAI,at very reasonable rates ( I found one-ways for 140 $..)
Flights leave TLV at 08,00 in the morning and you arrive in Cairo around 13,00 hours.
Flights are great !!

[Edited 2007-04-02 10:52:09]


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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14139 posts, RR: 63
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7484 times:

Quoting ELAL 744 (Reply 5):
Back during the British Mandate there was a train from Cairo to Beirut and Damascus that ran through Tel Aviv
If you go with someone who knows, he will be able to point out the tracks that are still in the asphalt. This train died after Israeli independence and the subsequent state of war that existed.
Shame

George McDonald Fraser wrote an interesting story about a journey on this train as a young Lieutenant with the Gordon Highlanders in 1946.

Jan


User currently offlineAvi From Israel, joined Sep 2001, 943 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7475 times:

I loved the question.

It takes the Israeli train 2.5 hours (!!!) to get from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem (only about 60 km apart) and you want then to get to Cairo?



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User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7459 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Thread starter):
between Tel Aviv and Cairo

via LCA per Cyprus Airways
TLV-LCA
12-45----0705--0800---CY429-----0-----320
--3--6----0705--0800 --CY429-----0 ----319
Days ----Dep ---Arr ----FltNo -----Stops A/c from TELAVIV
LCA-TLV
---4-------2030--2050---CY436-------0 ----320
------7----1850--1910---CY436-------0 ----319
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User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7407 times:

Thanks for all the help guys. I actually found a TLV-CAI flight that leaves at 1:15 or so AM on certain days on El Al, so that's not as bad as the 2:30. Hope the flights will be open though because we plan on non-reving. Anyone have any idea how the loads are on this flight?


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7394 times:

Bus is the mean of transportation if not flying, done that.

User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7379 times:

There are daily flights between Israel and Lebanon Big grin


Alex!!!



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User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1582 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7377 times:

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 12):

hehehehe Big grin


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7368 times:

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 12):
There are daily flights between Israel and Lebanon

but no landing-rights ! no code-sharings ! and no schedules !  no   no 


User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2262 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7349 times:

Quoting Avi (Reply 8):
It takes the Israeli train 2.5 hours (!!!) to get from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem

Wrong. I takes 1.5 hours , because you have to switch lines at Beth Shemesh. They are working on the direct connection , I think.



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User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1875 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7345 times:

If Israel wants, we will be more than pleased to build a TGV ....
Today, it broke a new world record just above 574 km/h...
Teva



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User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7339 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 14):

but no landing-rights ! no code-sharings ! and no schedules !

Israel never care about rights my dear ME AVN FAN  Wink



Alex!!!



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User currently offlineFlyingbabydoc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7335 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 2):
Screw it then, guess I'll just take the LY flight that leaves at 2:30 in the morning

Actually, the bus ride is interesting - I have taken it from TLV to CAI and had a great tour of the Sinai peninsula, amazing how many "carcasses" of the war(s) still remain. And you get to cross the Suez Channel on a ferry, quite impressive!

On the way back, we took the bus from Cairo to Taba and crossed on foot to Eilat. During this trip we could even bathe on Port Said and made a stop at St. Catherine's Monastery (Mt. Sinai). It is a bit long, but I would still strongly recommend the bus trip.

Have fun

Alex


User currently offlineAvi From Israel, joined Sep 2001, 943 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7325 times:

Quoting LY7E7 (Reply 15):
Wrong. I takes 1.5 hours , because you have to switch lines at Beth Shemesh.

Wrong?
Take a look at the train's schedule. A train leaves Tel Aviv at 06:30. It arrives Bet Shemesh at 07:13 and only at 08:03 a second train leaves for Jerusalem. It arrives at 08:49. Total time: 2:19 hours without delays and there are always delays on that line. These delays used to "kill" the entire network so the train company had to break the line. Latter the day you have to wait "only" 10 minutes but then you have to wait 50 minutes if you are coming from Jerusalem.

Quoting LY7E7 (Reply 15):
They are working on the direct connection , I think.

Until the A1 will be open ...



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7318 times:

Quoting Flyingbabydoc (Reply 18):
amazing how many "carcasses" of the war(s) still remain.

What kind?


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7315 times:

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 17):
Israel never care

it may look utopic at the time now but just imagine things getting settled, and ELAL and MEA establishing a joint-venture company, operating seaplanes, and having scheduled seaplane services starting at / off Tel Aviv North Airport, with the first landing off Haifa-Seaport, second landing off Akko, third landing of Tyrus seaport, fourth landing off Sa'ida seaport and final landing either at BEY airport or off Beirut seaport !  yes   yes 
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User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7293 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 21):


it may look utopic at the time now but just imagine things getting settled, and ELAL and MEA establishing a joint-venture company, operating seaplanes, and having scheduled seaplane services starting at / off Tel Aviv North Airport, with the first landing off Haifa-Seaport, second landing off Akko, third landing of Tyrus seaport, fourth landing off Sa'ida seaport and final landing either at BEY airport or off Beirut seaport !

Yes sure ! I also can imagine a new airline connecting BEY and TLV with the world and the perfect name would be ARMAGEDDON AIRLINES Big grin


Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8195 posts, RR: 54
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7280 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 21):
it may look utopic at the time now but just imagine things getting settled, and ELAL and MEA establishing a joint-venture company, operating seaplanes, and having scheduled seaplane services starting at / off Tel Aviv North Airport, with the first landing off Haifa-Seaport, second landing off Akko, third landing of Tyrus seaport, fourth landing off Sa'ida seaport and final landing either at BEY airport or off Beirut seaport !

I think this is the best reason for ending the occupation and signing a deal with Palestine (I would have thought a pre-67 split) - and makes me wonder why it hasn't happened - think of the money from the gigantic volume of tourism. I mean, you have the most highly concentrated amount of cultural sites for all mankind in that little strip of land from Cairo to Aleppo (Jerusalem, Byblos, Beirut, Bethlehem, Cairo, Giza, Damascus etc etc), AND it's populated by (seriously) the nicest and most hospitable people on earth (all of them). MEA, El Al, Syrianair, Egyptair and Palestinian Airways would all sign up for 30 A380s the day after signing a proper peace treaty. And need em as quickly as Airbus could build em.



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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7278 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 20):
What kind?

Many of the Bar-Lev line outposts ("Israeli" side of the canal) are still there, some converted into makeshift museums, with a 'slight' Egyptian bias. There are probably still quite a few burnt out shells of various military vehicles lying around. Maybe some minefields. The airfields are still there as well, some used for civilian traffic now.

Quoting Teva (Reply 16):
If Israel wants, we will be more than pleased to build a TGV ....
Today, it broke a new world record just above 574 km/h...

Bet it wouldn't if it had to negotiate the hills and valleys surrounding Jerusalem, for example.  Wink


LY744.



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25 Flyingbabydoc : LY 744 has already replied. I am not sure, some of them seemed to be russian - I would guess T-54 or T-55, plus a few airplane wrecks. I couldn't ide
26 LY744 : There should be tons of those. Some T-62s as well. If there's any Israeli tanks left they would be Centurions, M48A3* and M60/M60A1. Also look out fo
27 Flyingbabydoc : To be honest with you, most of them were only incinerated carcasses. I am no tank expert, so I could not identify them. In a way it is an interesting
28 Alessandro : Cedarjet, dream on, too much religion around the area to make sensible decisions. Only when people start to starve in the region then they´ll start c
29 LY744 : Everything that wasn't severely damaged was picked up and used (often put back into service, not necessarily on the same side where it started the wa
30 ME AVN FAN : - Due to lack of courage of politicians on both sides, internal developments on both sides, and the many problems of detailed solutions. But come it
31 LY7E7 : That's what I did. And most trains get you to Jerusalem in 1.5 hours (which is as ridiculous as 2.5 for this distance)
32 Avi : Do it again. I know what you did. You entered their website and looked for trains from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Didn't it look odd to you that the firs
33 LY7E7 : Indeed. Do people actually do that?
34 Avi : I'm sure you have enough fingers on your hands (if not a single hand) to count the passengers on each train. There is a good (relative) load on the B
35 Post contains images MD90fan : To do what? Repatriate refugees?
36 ME AVN FAN : - To transport tourists and businessmen to Palestine and, as other airlines were mentioned, to places in the region.
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