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User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1734 times:

Since I don't have the particular URL for the site at this moment, I will claim that this is just an opinion and such to avoid having to deal with ANCFlyer-- but we obviously know that I'm not making this up m'kay?

I'm posting this in Non-Aviation and not in Military since it may be used by Law Enforcement Groups, which are not Military.

As an interesting note, there's a new ultra-low frequency radar system that can see through virtually anything, costs a couple of hundred bucks and is in use by the US Government-- I do worry that they will do exactly what I wrote-- scan everybody's house, then if they find anything incriminating, send a tip to the DA's office who gets a warrant and finds the item. Granted the person shouldn't be keeping anything incriminating in their house *BUT* the government isn't supposed to randomly search people's houses. There's an expectation of privacy, and there are laws limiting unreasonable search and seizures (And trust me, if our Founding Fathers knew how cameras, and radar, and sensor technology could be used to invade the privacy of others, they would have put elaborate restrictions on their use)

Andrea Kent

[Edited 2007-04-02 04:46:56]

38 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1723 times:

Source?

Did you invent this in your own mind - make your opinion?

Where did you come across such information?

There is something called BackScatter radar. It's quite effective, and old technology, at least a decade. Certainly you're not just finding this out?

There's no way - no way - I believe you just dreamed this up.

You heard if form somewhere. You read it on some web site.

Call me crazy, as opposed to an Anal Bastard, but I simply can't believe this popped into your head.

Source is required.


User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1717 times:

Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
(And trust me, if our Founding Fathers knew how cameras, and radar, and sensor technology could be used to invade the privacy of others, they would have put elaborate restrictions on their use)

lol... you knew them?

Perhaps you should fix your age on your profile!

-UH60


User currently offlineMaidensGator From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 945 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1710 times:

Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
As an interesting note, there's a new ultra-low frequency radar system that can see through virtually anything, costs a couple of hundred bucks and is in use by the US Government-- I do worry that they will do exactly what I wrote-- scan everybody's house, then if they find anything incriminating, send a tip to the DA's office who gets a warrant and finds the item.

If it only costs a couple hundred bucks I want one to help me find stuff in the storage area that used to be my garage....



The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.
User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1681 times:

Is this it?



 Smile


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21634 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1672 times:

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 2):
lol... you knew them?

Perhaps you should fix your age on your profile!

The tinfoil hat doubles as a time machine, apparently.  Smile

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1668 times:

I found a schematic of this new technology online.



User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
New Type Of Surveillance Radar

Let the games begin boys! What was that quote from Renaissance Man? "Too easy drill sergeant!".


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1660 times:

Pigeon spies.



User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1641 times:

ANC, you seriously need some time off.  Smile


Google is our friend.





Through-wall vision technology promises a new edge for security and emergency personnel



X-ray specs could change the rules in hostage, terrorist, urban warfare, earthquake and rescue situations

Cambridge Consultants Ltd (CCL) has successfully demonstrated a radical new type of radar technology that can ‘see through walls’. The low frequency radar has the ability to detect the location and movement of people inside buildings, or simply breathing beneath rubble.

A unique detection technology can provide plan and elevation views of internal spaces, in a form which is optimized for portability. CCL now plans to turn its proof-of-concept demonstrator into products for military personnel and emergency services in situations such as sieges, urban warfare, fire and rescue . . .


http://www.cambridgeconsultants.com/news_pr90.shtml



Blank.
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1635 times:

Quoting Diamond (Reply 9):
ANC, you seriously need some time off.

This particular device may be new, but the technology isn't.


And the TO makes it sounds as though we'll be seeing people through walls, and spying into houses, etc.

Typical Black Painted Helicopters/Darkened Chevy Caprices conspiracy theorist garbage.

I just got back form Vegas! Plenty of time off!

I'm off to work in the morning, firing up the Old Caprice and driving over the secret helipad  silly 


User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10):
And the TO makes it sounds as though we'll be seeing people through walls, and spying into houses, etc.

OK, maybe I've had too much Johnnie Walker Blue tonight but, what does "TO" mean?


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 11):
TO"

Thread Opener

 drunk 


User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

[quote=ANCFlyer,reply=12]Thread Opener

Thanks buddy.  drunk ? OK, perhaps.


User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 4):
Is this it?

Very close, but....



User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 14):

Haven't you heard, masturbation IS terrorism! DUH!

Every time you blow your load down the shower drain, you've eliminated the potential for 400 million clone warriors!


User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

Quoting Graphic (Reply 15):
Haven't you heard, masturbation IS terrorism!

That's what my Young Methodists class taught me, too!


User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1614 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 16):
That's what my Young Methodists class taught me, too!

I thought I knew you. You were the guy sitting across from me, cheating off my paper!


User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 17):
I thought I knew you.

I'll be damned. I always meant to ask you what you and Bill the Janitor did in your private "spiritual meetings" in the broom closet.  scratchchin 


User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1609 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 18):
I'll be damned. I always meant to ask you what you and Bill the Janitor did in your private "spiritual meetings" in the broom closet.

Bitch! That was YOU pounding on the door?


User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1599 times:

What BB is forgetting is that it is illegal to look into private residences without a warrant. While she does state...

Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
Granted the person shouldn't be keeping anything incriminating in their house *BUT* the government isn't supposed to randomly search people's houses. There's an expectation of privacy, and there are laws limiting unreasonable search and seizures (And trust me, if our Founding Fathers knew how cameras, and radar, and sensor technology could be used to invade the privacy of others, they would have put elaborate restrictions on their use)

But remember BB, that congress and the Supreme Court has consistently held up the principles of private rights.

A report by Glenn Fine, inspector-general of the Justice Department, found that the FBI circumvented the legal restrictions on the use of the letters by obtaining telephone records from three unnamed telecommunications carriers without first getting required legal permission and that the FBI routinely sought out e-mail records improperly.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17543028/

So while the executive branch stepped out of line, the judicial and legislative caught the error and called them on it. That's the great thing about the US government, checks and balances. If these letters were caught, what makes you think that any court would uphold illegaly obtained evidence? They wouldn't. Do you ever congratulate the US government for working as it should, or are you already looking for new complaints from the pundits on proteleriat.com?


User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1561 times:




Yay Pudding!
User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14026 posts, RR: 62
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1554 times:

The laws of physics stand againt it. If you use electromagnetic waves of a frequency which is so low that it can pass through walls, the radar equipment will NOT have the resolution to depict whatever you are looking for.
The maximum resolution is the wavelength. To pass through walls, with a reasonable backscatter, the waves will have to be in the meter range. Any object smaller than a meter will not be resolved. Shorter waves will be absorbed by the material of the walls.
Also, it would be quite easy to shield a building: Just cover the inside of a room with metal foil (including windows, though there a metal screen will work).

Jan


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1547 times:
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Wow.....


just wow! I can't believe that....

seriously....



where's the twilight zone music?



Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 23):
where's the twilight zone music?

I hear it, don't you? My new tin foil hat has built in ear buds.



Yay Pudding!
25 TedTAce : I wonder what's going to happen when the Ghana police scan Sean's anal butt plug?
26 Post contains images ShyFlyer : So that's why Abdel Rahman Omar was blind!!
27 Blackbird : This is precisely what I'm talking about. Imagine if the government/local law enforcement, etc, put these devices in a way so that they could spy on e
28 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Yeah, and the silent Blackhawks, and darkened Chevy's will show up to drag you away . . . . erase all evidence that you ever existed . . . . never to
29 Post contains images Srbmod : Then does that make A.net the world's largest terror cell?
30 MDorBust : This is why I've lined the walls of my place with tin foil. They can't see a thing I'm doing with my Meth lab or my child sex slave ring.
31 Halls120 : backscatter can't see through walls. At least not the version we currently have deployed along our three coasts. You obviously have no clue about wha
32 Blackbird : I doubt foil would deflect such a signal. Either way, I just worry how sometimes surveilance technology can be misused. Maybe I'm just pessimistic, bu
33 IAH777 : I find a collander shell provides that extra level of protection from G(overnment)-rays. But it has to be stainless steel. Plastic ones let the G-wav
34 Blackbird : Get outta here IAH777 Andrea Kent Pi is approximately equal to 3.14159265358973846264338... (I put all this in so I would get around the minimum text
35 Itsjustme : That's not very neighborly. I just use "x-ray vision" as my pc to get a warrant. Works like a champ.
36 MDorBust : I should give that one a shot. I've been trying the Fairy on the Shoulder excuse a lot lately. Doesn't seem to work so well.... the judge can't seem
37 IAH777 : Gladly. Wading through all this bullshit will void my warranty.
38 Post contains images Jwenting : Conspiracy theorists have never been known to pay attention to such little details... And of course procedures can be changed. Anyway, if the "govern
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