Blackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1315 times:
Since I don't have the particular URL for the site at this moment, I will claim that this is just an opinion and such to avoid having to deal with ANCFlyer-- but we obviously know that I'm not making this up m'kay?
I'm posting this in Non-Aviation and not in Military since it may be used by Law Enforcement Groups, which are not Military.
As an interesting note, there's a new ultra-low frequency radar system that can see through virtually anything, costs a couple of hundred bucks and is in use by the US Government-- I do worry that they will do exactly what I wrote-- scan everybody's house, then if they find anything incriminating, send a tip to the DA's office who gets a warrant and finds the item. Granted the person shouldn't be keeping anything incriminating in their house *BUT* the government isn't supposed to randomly search people's houses. There's an expectation of privacy, and there are laws limiting unreasonable search and seizures (And trust me, if our Founding Fathers knew how cameras, and radar, and sensor technology could be used to invade the privacy of others, they would have put elaborate restrictions on their use)
UH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1298 times:
Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter): (And trust me, if our Founding Fathers knew how cameras, and radar, and sensor technology could be used to invade the privacy of others, they would have put elaborate restrictions on their use)
MaidensGator From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 945 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1291 times:
Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter): As an interesting note, there's a new ultra-low frequency radar system that can see through virtually anything, costs a couple of hundred bucks and is in use by the US Government-- I do worry that they will do exactly what I wrote-- scan everybody's house, then if they find anything incriminating, send a tip to the DA's office who gets a warrant and finds the item.
If it only costs a couple hundred bucks I want one to help me find stuff in the storage area that used to be my garage....
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19719 posts, RR: 56 Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1253 times:
Itsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2765 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1243 times:
Diamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 66 Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1222 times:
ANC, you seriously need some time off.
Google is our friend.
Through-wall vision technology promises a new edge for security and emergency personnel
X-ray specs could change the rules in hostage, terrorist, urban warfare, earthquake and rescue situations
Cambridge Consultants Ltd (CCL) has successfully demonstrated a radical new type of radar technology that can ‘see through walls’. The low frequency radar has the ability to detect the location and movement of people inside buildings, or simply breathing beneath rubble.
A unique detection technology can provide plan and elevation views of internal spaces, in a form which is optimized for portability. CCL now plans to turn its proof-of-concept demonstrator into products for military personnel and emergency services in situations such as sieges, urban warfare, fire and rescue . . .
Itsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2765 posts, RR: 11 Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1215 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10): And the TO makes it sounds as though we'll be seeing people through walls, and spying into houses, etc.
OK, maybe I've had too much Johnnie Walker Blue tonight but, what does "TO" mean?
Itsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2765 posts, RR: 11 Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1211 times:
IAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1198 times:
IAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1196 times:
Quoting Graphic (Reply 15): Haven't you heard, masturbation IS terrorism!
That's what my Young Methodists class taught me, too!
Itsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2765 posts, RR: 11 Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1195 times:
Quoting IAH777 (Reply 16): That's what my Young Methodists class taught me, too!
I thought I knew you. You were the guy sitting across from me, cheating off my paper!
IAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1194 times:
Itsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2765 posts, RR: 11 Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1190 times:
Quoting IAH777 (Reply 18): I'll be damned. I always meant to ask you what you and Bill the Janitor did in your private "spiritual meetings" in the broom closet.
Fumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1180 times:
What BB is forgetting is that it is illegal to look into private residences without a warrant. While she does state...
Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter): Granted the person shouldn't be keeping anything incriminating in their house *BUT* the government isn't supposed to randomly search people's houses. There's an expectation of privacy, and there are laws limiting unreasonable search and seizures (And trust me, if our Founding Fathers knew how cameras, and radar, and sensor technology could be used to invade the privacy of others, they would have put elaborate restrictions on their use)
But remember BB, that congress and the Supreme Court has consistently held up the principles of private rights.
A report by Glenn Fine, inspector-general of the Justice Department, found that the FBI circumvented the legal restrictions on the use of the letters by obtaining telephone records from three unnamed telecommunications carriers without first getting required legal permission and that the FBI routinely sought out e-mail records improperly.
So while the executive branch stepped out of line, the judicial and legislative caught the error and called them on it. That's the great thing about the US government, checks and balances. If these letters were caught, what makes you think that any court would uphold illegaly obtained evidence? They wouldn't. Do you ever congratulate the US government for working as it should, or are you already looking for new complaints from the pundits on proteleriat.com?
Go3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3266 posts, RR: 22 Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1142 times:
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13343 posts, RR: 64 Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1135 times:
The laws of physics stand againt it. If you use electromagnetic waves of a frequency which is so low that it can pass through walls, the radar equipment will NOT have the resolution to depict whatever you are looking for.
The maximum resolution is the wavelength. To pass through walls, with a reasonable backscatter, the waves will have to be in the meter range. Any object smaller than a meter will not be resolved. Shorter waves will be absorbed by the material of the walls.
Also, it would be quite easy to shield a building: Just cover the inside of a room with metal foil (including windows, though there a metal screen will work).
DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11433 posts, RR: 81 Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1128 times:
Go3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3266 posts, RR: 22 Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1126 times:
Quoting DL021 (Reply 23): where's the twilight zone music?
I hear it, don't you? My new tin foil hat has built in ear buds.
Yay Pudding!
25 TedTAce: I wonder what's going to happen when the Ghana police scan Sean's anal butt plug?
26 ShyFlyer: So that's why Abdel Rahman Omar was blind!!
27 Blackbird: This is precisely what I'm talking about. Imagine if the government/local law enforcement, etc, put these devices in a way so that they could spy on e
28 ANCFlyer: Yeah, and the silent Blackhawks, and darkened Chevy's will show up to drag you away . . . . erase all evidence that you ever existed . . . . never to
29 Srbmod: Then does that make A.net the world's largest terror cell?
30 MDorBust: This is why I've lined the walls of my place with tin foil. They can't see a thing I'm doing with my Meth lab or my child sex slave ring.
31 Halls120: backscatter can't see through walls. At least not the version we currently have deployed along our three coasts. You obviously have no clue about wha
32 Blackbird: I doubt foil would deflect such a signal. Either way, I just worry how sometimes surveilance technology can be misused. Maybe I'm just pessimistic, bu
33 IAH777: I find a collander shell provides that extra level of protection from G(overnment)-rays. But it has to be stainless steel. Plastic ones let the G-wav
34 Blackbird: Get outta here IAH777 Andrea Kent Pi is approximately equal to 3.14159265358973846264338... (I put all this in so I would get around the minimum text
35 Itsjustme: That's not very neighborly. I just use "x-ray vision" as my pc to get a warrant. Works like a champ.
36 MDorBust: I should give that one a shot. I've been trying the Fairy on the Shoulder excuse a lot lately. Doesn't seem to work so well.... the judge can't seem
37 IAH777: Gladly. Wading through all this bullshit will void my warranty.
38 Jwenting: Conspiracy theorists have never been known to pay attention to such little details... And of course procedures can be changed. Anyway, if the "govern
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