Notwithstanding all the liberals getting into a frenzy in the thread linked below, W has outflanked the Dems by naming Sam Fox as the as US Ambassador to Belgium by means of a recess appointment. ROTFLMAO. For those of you who don't know Fox donated $50,000 to the Swift Boat group that is credited with helping sink Kerry's run for the Presidency. Kerry made it his mission to block Fox's Senate confirmation.
AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2212 times:
Let see the Ambassador to Belgium: not really all that important of a post to waste whatever capital that Bush as left, I wonder if Bush himself has throw in the towel on the remainder of his administration; this type of attitude will make it very difficult to get anything passed.
Pope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2193 times:
Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 2): Let's wait and see what happens with any legislation the "village idiot"* attempts to have passed!
Yeah because clearly the Democrats have been so bipartisan in there first three months of control.
If the Clinton administration showed us anything is that this country works best when government stays out of the way. From a business perspective I can tell you that the best think that can happen is legislative gridlock. Budgets grow at inflation and no more pork gets added.
Truly as cunning a statesman as any. He sure showed them!
Ever hear of John Bolton? Hell, Reagan made 243 recess appointments in his years in office alone.
Of course, if believing that this is some kind of slick strategy Bush slyly executed after a period of meticulous planning is going to make you feel better about the utterly dismal state of his presidency, ignore everything you just read.
PA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1966 posts, RR: 25 Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2161 times:
Bush has lost all credibility. I could care less what scumbag backroom buddy he appoints to Belgium. He's already shown how much of an ass he is over the criticism of Pelosi's visit to Syria. Funny, he was all over her trip like stink on shit, but said absolutely nothing whatsoever about 3 Republicans visiting Syria.
Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3480 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2159 times:
Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 9):
Yep and Clinton made 139. So the next time you guys want to tell me about the Democrats in Congress working WITH Republican Presidents, I don't want to hear it.
That wasn't ment to infer that only Republicans make recess appointments. I was simply pointing out that they aren't particularly rare by using the highest count. We are after all, talking about politicians here.
UALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2137 times:
Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 13): That wasn't ment to infer that only Republicans make recess appointments. I was simply pointing out that they aren't particularly rare by using the highest count. We are after all, talking about politicians here.
I didn't mean to imply that you might have been one of those that are all about the bi-partisanship of Democrats. You just gave me some statistical proof.
CastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2133 times:
Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 9): This is statistical proof that Democrats are obstructionists.
Please say the other half. Please. You're smarter than this.
We need cooperation in DC and this sort of position only fosters separation. Regardless of which party is in power, the other party does what it can to undermine the other. If you keep thinking this way, then so will they.
DavestanKSAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1678 posts, RR: 14 Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2119 times:
Well politics in DC as usual.
Given his track record, the people the President appointed to positions, or on the other side of that coin the lack of replacing those who show incompetence at their positions, it's hard to believe some still think this President has credibility on the matter.
Quoting RJdxer (Reply 14): But he doesn't have anymore elections to win, the democrats do.
True, he may not personally have more to win, but what he does will reflect upon future elections. Many moderate, or independent voters may vote Democratic because of the fall outs of this administration.
Yesterday we've sinned, today we move towards God. Touch the sky....love and respect...Safe Star!
Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3480 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2110 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 17): Hahahahaha! Bush made a phunney! Yesterday he criticizes Congress for recessing, today he makes a recess appointment.
To say nothing of lambasting Pelosi's "photo op" in Syria only days after McCain's tightly-guarded stroll through Baghdad provided an example of the "improvements" in Iraq that nobody is talking about. Most of us can tell they're all playing the same game; it'd be nice if they'd respect our intelligence every once in awhile.
UALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2108 times:
Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 16): Regardless of which party is in power, the other party does what it can to undermine the other. If you keep thinking this way, then so will they.
Here's the thing CastleIsland, and we have the stats to prove it:
Under Reagan with a Democrat lead Congress, 243 Recess Appointments, in 8 years.
Under George Bush with a Democrat lead Congress, 77 in 4 years. (Thats a pace of 154 over 8 years)
Under Bill Clinton with a Republican lead Congress, 139
George W. Bush with a Republican majority for most of his Presidency still had to use this 106 times over 6 years.
So what do the numbers tell us? When Democrats are in power they always ask for bipartisanship, and according to these numbers they get it. When Republicans are in power that call for bipartisanship goes out the window and the numbers show it.
It was easier for Bill Clinton to get who he wanted in position under a Republican Congress than three Republican Presidents could even when Republicans had a slim majority. Why is that do you think?
Confuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2101 times:
It happens all the time. The previous president did it as well. Ambassadors are political appointees.
Clinton appoints first openly gay ambassador
June 4, 1999
WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, June 4) -- President Bill Clinton Friday used his recess appointment privilege to name James Hormel as ambassador to Luxembourg. Clinton's move was in direct defiance of the Senate's GOP leadership who have refused to confirm Hormel because he is openly gay.
MaidensGator From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 945 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2094 times:
Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 8): Quoting Pope (Thread starter):
Pretty good "strategery" for the "village idiot".
Truly as cunning a statesman as any. He sure showed them!
This whole thing is just a pissing contest between Kerry and Bush over what really is an insignificant appointment (no offense to Belgium). Bush wins the pissing contest... What a waste of time all around...
Quoting Rara (Reply 12): As someone who helped Bush win the second term, Fox will have a very warm welcome in Belgium as ambassador.
I hope he'll enjoy his time.
I'm sure he will....
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.
MDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2080 times:
Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 23): I don't think he, Pope, MDorbust and RJxdxer are any smarter than that, on an emoitional level. They're so worried about covering up for Republicans, no matter what they do, or how they do it, that they can't use the brain that God gave them to think through the situation on partisian politics. I really don't. They're incapable of coming out of their partisian shell, even for a minute, and analyzing something without bias. It's not in their makeup.
You know Falcon, I keep trying to listen to Pep when he says that you are an upstanding guy.. But all I see from you is . I don't know what the hell he sees in you, because you are full of it.
If you were with us at the BHM meet you would know just how partisan I am. Ask N1120A about it. I talked with him about my votes that year.
Perhaps if you could for one second rectify your anal cranial inversion you might remember that I am the guy who posted the complete Republic/Democrat/Independant list of corrupt polititians before last years elections.
I am absolutely sick of the garbage you spread in any thread regarding politics Falcon. Read my post chowderhead. Where did I type a single word positive about the Republican party. You know what, don't even bother. You aren't worth the waste of time anymore.
Fall off into oblivion for all I care.
25 CastleIsland: That both sides are obstructionists, and statistically, over the past 27 years, the Dems have been more so. That doesn't change the fact that both si
26 UALPHLCS: Fair enough. I disagree, with you, but you're reasons are the most cogent and least partisan of anything I've seen from those who lean left on airlin
27 MaidensGator: It depends what day it is which party I dislike more.... I am proud that as a registered voter for more than 30 years, I've never belonged to a polit
28 Falcon84: Calling like I see them, my friend. All I ever see of you on here is defending Republicans against Democrats. I don't see anything else. Again, as I'
29 Yellowstone: Why are you equating the President getting his way with bipartisanship? These statistics don't necessarily show that Democrats are more partisan than
30 TedTAce: Dude, my problem here is you make it sound like W is some kind of brilliant strategist. KKKarl Rove told him he could do it so he did, thumbing his n
31 MaidensGator: Actually, he's only thumbing his nose at John Kerry, but you've got a valid point... And both parties look more like that every day...
32 Cfalk: Believe it or not, The public's approval rating of Congress is even lower than Bush's! CONGRESS – Favorable Job Rating Fox/Opinion Dynamics: 30% Ga
33 RJdxer: He didn't. You, in your own little world of personal rage against the President, evidently missed the sarcasm. I did not criticize her going there. S