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Cruise Ship Evacuated Off Greece  
User currently offlineBananaBoY From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1581 posts, RR: 22
Posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2135 times:

BBC are reporting that a cruise ship has run aground and is taking on water. It has occured near the island of Santorini, with 1600 passengers and crew on board. The ship concerned is the Louis Lines Sea Diamond.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6530475.stm

The Louis Cruise Lines website ( http://www.louiscruises.com ) is understandably busy, but there is some information on the ship here...http://www.gate1travel.com/cruises/ships/louis_SeaDiamond.htm


Mark


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User currently offlineEK20 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2118 times:

It's the same company that owns the Louis Corcyra Beach Hotel in Corfu where 2 children were found dead in their hotel room as a result of carbon monoxide poisoning from the room's gas boiler and air-conditioning.

Doesn't say much for their reputation does it?!


User currently offlineFlashFlyGuy From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2104 times:

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 1):
Louis Cruise Lines...wasn't that the cruise line that lost a ship back in the 90's when the captain and all the crew got on a life raft and left all the passengers to fend for themselves?

That was Epirotiki Lines and the OCEANOS disaster in 1991.

FFG


User currently offlineEK20 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2099 times:

It's the same company that own the Corcyra Palace Hotel in Corfu where two children were found dead in their hotel room as a result of carbon monoxide poisoning from faulty air conditioning and boiler system.

Doesn't say much for their reputation does it?!


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 1):
Louis Cruise Lines...wasn't that the cruise line that lost a ship back in the 90's when the captain and all the crew got on a life raft and left all the passengers to fend for themselves?

No that was the "Oceanos" that sank off the Wild Coast in SA - it was run by a Greek company, I forget the name.


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2007 times:
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The ship has sunk, two passengers are missing.


SANTORINI, Greece Apr 6, 2007 (AP)— Two French passengers were reported missing Friday following the rescue of nearly 1,600 people from a Greek cruise ship that struck rocks and sank off this holiday island.

Authorities said two French passengers a 45 year-old man and his 16-year-old daughter had still not been accounted for, and lists of rescued passengers were being rechecked.

The Sea Diamond sank shortly before 7 a.m. Friday, 15 hours after the accident occurred and the ship began listing and taking on water.

[. . .]

Source: ABCNews





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User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

It was built in Finland, in Sweden the name of the ship was Birka Princess only two persons missing of 1600 hundred that ´s great.

User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

Having been on a Greek ferry twice, this sort of thing doesn't surprise me. The Greeks have quite a shoddy maritime safety record, and seeing the way they acted on our ferry (Zakynthos-Kefallonia return), it's not difficult to see why.

The ferry was falling to pieces for one. I walked up to the bridge where the crew were smoking, with their feet up watching TV. The car deck doors were opened while we were still at sea before we arrived in the port. Definitely one of the most scary trips I've had on a ferry and one of the reasons I will not travel on ferries anywhere any more!


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1934 times:
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Quoting Noelg (Reply 7):
Noelg From United Kingdom



Quoting Noelg (Reply 7):
I will not travel on ferries anywhere any more!

How do you get to the rest of Europe?  Smile



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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 8):
How do you get to the rest of Europe?

Maybe he flies? Wink



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1918 times:
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Quoting A340600 (Reply 9):
Maybe he flies?

And if he wants to bring his car?  Smile Other than the Chunnel there aren't too many ways from that island of yours  duck 



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

Quoting Sukhoi (Reply 6):
It was built in Finland, in Sweden the name of the ship was Birka Princess only two persons missing of 1600 hundred that ´s great.

Spooky, it looked so 'baltic'. A popular soap up here in north was filmed on it


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8964 posts, RR: 39
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 5):

That firs pic. . . wow, that is a very deep area!! Right next to land and it engulfed the entire cruise ship!!


I wonder why they couldn't save it. . . didn't look so bad at first.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1876 times:
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Quoting Andaman (Reply 11):
Spooky, it looked so 'baltic'. A popular soap up here in north was filmed on it

Wow, I never knew it was M/S Freja.



Quoting PPVRA (Reply 12):
That firs pic. . . wow, that is a very deep area!! Right next to land and it engulfed the entire cruise ship!!

That is true, I didn't even think of that. Steep dropoff indeed.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24938 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1874 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 5):
The ship has sunk

Authorities are already tracing whether JGPH1A had anything to do with the sinking...



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1864 times:
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Video of the ship sinking:

SVT



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User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1831 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 8):

How do you get to the rest of Europe?



Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 10):
And if he wants to bring his car? Other than the Chunnel there aren't too many ways from that island of yours

If we do go to the continent (on the rare occasion) we normally fly over and either hire a car there or use public transport.

If we ever did drive we would take the tunnel - it's the easiest way, just drive down to the coast, drive on, short train ride, drive off again! Easy as pie!

That video is very scary - apparently there are still two missing Sad


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1775 times:

Wow,I hope they salvage her,what a waste.........


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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8677 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1764 times:

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 17):
Wow,I hope they salvage her,what a waste.........

Agreed. What a fine ship. Was the Captain greek?

MCOflyer



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8964 posts, RR: 39
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 17):
Wow,I hope they salvage her,what a waste.........

It's a tad late now, I'm afraid. . .



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User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1729 times:

Part of the problem lies in allowing ships to fly "flags of convienance". Thus a ship calling at ports in the UK and US flying a Greek flag does not have to comply with all of the regs that a UK or US registered ship would. Probably the safest cruise vessels in North America are the Delta Queen, Mississippi Queen and American Queen-all operating on inland waterways and US flagged. When I lived in Tennessee, the folks in Nashville launched the General Jackson showboat. It's entry into service was delayed as there was a dispute between the owners and US Coast Guard concerning the number of lifejackets and manner of stowage. In the end, the owners did things the Coast Guard way as the Coasties refused to license the ship until the issues were resolved.

Then there's the matter of the old Delta Queen. Several times the Safety at Sea Act threatened to dock her permanently due to her wooden superstructure. Of all of the tourist boats, she is probably the safest excursion boat still running. She has been retrofitted with modern firefighting systems continually and is maintained in top working order. All deck and engineering officers are USCG licensed. She handles a bit differently than most boats on the river as she is one of the last that does not have direct control of the engines from the pilothouse. Instead, the pilot communicates engine direction and speed changes to the chief engineer on duty in the engineroom via the mechanical engine room telegraph. That adds a good amount of lead time from the time that a change is requested to the time that the change takes place under the best of circumstances-usually something like 30 seconds to a full minute.



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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1666 times:

Do you think they'll let it stay there ? Isn't it a hazard to the environment and other ships ? I'de like to see it salvaged...


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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8677 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 21):
Do you think they'll let it stay there ? Isn't it a hazard to the environment and other ships ? I'de like to see it salvaged...

Has that been done before?

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1656 times:
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Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 18):
Was the Captain greek

Yes and has been charged with causing a shipwreck.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 4):
No that was the "Oceanos" that sank off the Wild Coast in SA - it was run by a Greek company, I forget the name

Epirotiki Lines

I remember when the Oceanos sank, SAA's safety team was involved and my wife was manning a phone line for relatives to contact for passenger information.

There were many stories about the crew abandoning ship and leaving the passengers to their own devices. Jokes abounded such as: "what is the Greek command to abandon ship? " "okay me first!"

Luckily not one person lost their life in that disaster.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Quoting Noelg (Reply 7):
I've had on a ferry and one of the reasons I will not travel on ferries anywhere any more!

I hope if you ever come to Alaska you reconsider that posistion and take a trip on the Alaska Marine Highway system, it is a very well run system, even more so now that Robin Taylor was given his walking papers.

http://www.dot.state.ak.us/amhs/index.html

Quoting Andz (Reply 23):
Luckily not one person lost their life in that disaster.

Luck being the key word, How long after the last person go off, did that boat go down?

I can only hope people went to jail over that one.



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25 SK A340 : RIP "MS Freja" /Micke
26 Post contains links Andz : The ship was gone long before everyone was accounted for but the air force and other vessels picked up everyone who had gone overboard. check this ou
27 Kmh1956 : My daughter and I were in Santorini last year on a cruise (not the same cruise line) and I'm trying to figure out exactly where this ship sank. When w
28 ZBBYLW : From seeing pictures and videos it looks like right underneath Thia (town and spelling is probably wrong) right in the Bay, when I came in on a Celeb
29 United_Fan : I was just wondering if the ship had water-tight compartments? Or,was the slice too long ?
30 RayChuang : I remember reading online that there was much panic during the ship's evacuation and chances are REALLY good that the ship's crew didn't bother to clo
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