Aviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 710 times:
Henry Kissinger has long been known by the majority of people as a peacemaker. When America was having troubles in its foreign policy, Nixon and Ford would send Kissinger to help smooth things over.
In 1973, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for signing a ceasefire agreement with North Vietnam in January of that year.
Only two and a bit years later, he goes and gives Indonesia tacit American approval to invade East Timor. Although Kissinger denied this ever happened, documents which have only just come to light in the last few weeks, show that he lied.
PerthGloryFan From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 751 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 676 times:
Over 18 hours Scotty, and no bites.
Who? Kissinger? That was all last century.
Anyway who knows where East Timor is and who even cares?
I mean how can the government sanctioned deaths of 200 000 Indo-Portugese over 25 years in some little tropical backwater on the other side of the globe compare with 3000+ deaths in the capital of capitalism over a few short hours shown live before our eyes.
Both were tragedies of epic proportions but while massive resources are being expended chasing elusive terrorists and their heretical leader; Suharto and his corrupt cronies remain publicly visible but beyond the reach of justice.
If it is in the interests of the most powerful economy in the world something gets done, otherwise ....
EmiratesLover From Malta, joined Dec 2000, 341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 658 times:
I don't think Kissinger can be called a peacemaker any more than say, Bill Clinton.
Like all American policymakers, from what I know of him, I think he was the sort who used fraudulent ``peace processes'' not only to diminish attention towards the real source of conflicts - usually injustice, but also to drive attention away from the real issues.US foreingn policy has shown itself time and again capable of opposing injustice in one part of the world and supporting it in another, all in the name of preserving narrow American interests in different parts of the world.The example of Indonesia that you mentioned does not surprise me at all - they have done even worse in Palestine, where they continue to finance a brutal and illegal military occupation while promoting a fraudulent ``peace process'' that not only fails to address the real issues, but actually serves to drives attention away from them.So the hypocrisy of Kissinger and other people around him and following him does disgust and outrage - but it need not surprise.
TWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 647 times:
I don;t understand how Kissinger had anything to do with East Timor?
He didn't invade it, he didn't order any of his country's troopers to invade it, and he didn't personally kill anyone in it?
Was each Nazi SS trooper innocent of mudering Jews in Europe because someone gave the SS trooper "tacit approval" (whatever the hell that means).
Henry Kissinger will always be remembered as a true peacemaker who saved thousands of lives throughout East Asia, Africa, and Europe with skill, determination, respect, and strategy. Kissinger believed that peace could only be achieved by a balance of powers of US against Russia against China against Europe against Japan. He didn't regard any of these leaders as any more virtuous or evil than any others, but simply people he had to do business with to keep peace. He did some harm, but with a US warming of relations with China AND Russia, certainly he did significant more good than harm.
A truly remarkable individual who has done more for his country and peace than many.