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Volkswagen VS. Volvo Wagons VS. Nissan  
User currently offlineMd11fan From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 111 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

Hey all,

Its coming up to the point were i have to get a car, Its my fist, and i want it to be something that will hold me for a couple years, and wanted your opinion.I am going to be 16 in a couple months and have 9 grand saved up for a car.
here are my choices:

2000-2003 Volkswagen Passat Wagon
1997-2001 Volvo V70
2002-2004 Nissan Altima

I would appreciate anyone input.

Thanks,
MD11fan

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User currently offlineAA787823 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2713 times:

I would lean toward a Nissan Altima with the V6.....

User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12220 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2710 times:
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V70 is a great car!  Smile


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21530 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

First you have to decide whether you want a wagon or not. That's something you have to decide for yourself based on what needs you have, but I will say that when it comes to moving a boatload of stuff to or from college, it's hard to beat a wagon - being able to fit all my stuff into my V70 last summer (and since it was my last year there, I mean ALL my stuff) saved me a lot of money, since I didn't have to pay out the ass for a U-Haul trailer (and hitch).

You can't really go very wrong with those choices, but since I have one, and have taken several long-distance drives in it, I'd go for the Volvo. Sure, it's not the most sylish thing out there, but it's extremely comfortable inside, and it performs pretty well. But the VW may be a good option as well - there weren't any that really met my requirements when I was in the market, so I didn't have the opportunity to really explore them. I'd let the Altima go, but that's just my preference - I like European cars.

-Mir



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User currently offlineMd11fan From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 111 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

Ya i have been trying to find a car that fits me well. I wanted a SUV for a while but then decided that i want something lower to the ground and that was more fuel efficient. I really want the size of the SUV and then it hit me, what about a wagon. I will carry alot of stuff with me and going on trips. I will carry a latter and alot of crap so the more space the maier. I will also be adding many After market performance parts and both of these cars carry that ability.

Thanks mir, More input please  Big grin


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12220 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2695 times:
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Quoting Mir (Reply 3):
Sure, it's not the most sylish thing out there

I disagree. Until the Magnum came along, the Volvos were the best looking wagons out there  Smile



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User currently onlineRIXrat From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 786 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

I have a 1999 Volvo V70 wagon, and I've been thinking it's about time to get something newer, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with the car. It is solid, doesn't rattle and drives really good. It is pretty thirsty, though. Also, if I remember correctly, the V70 kept the Volvo chassis when Ford bought them in January 1999. The newer type Volvos are built around a Ford Focus chassis. Now, how exciting can that be?

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21530 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 5):
Until the Magnum came along, the Volvos were the best looking wagons out there

By that logic, the Volvo is still the best looking wagon out there. Magnum =  vomit 

I prefer the looks of the Passat though.

-Mir



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User currently offlineRunway777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2676 times:

VW or Volvo

nissan sucks


User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2664 times:

I just rented a Volvo V50 here in AMS. Its damn nice for what it is.


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User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2654 times:

Quoting RIXrat (Reply 6):
I have a 1999 Volvo V70 wagon

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Quoting RIXrat (Reply 6):
there is absolutely nothing wrong with the car

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Quoting Mir (Reply 3):
I'd go for the Volvo. Sure, it's not the most sylish thing out there, but it's extremely comfortable inside, and it performs pretty well

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I've owned five Volvos over the last 20 or so years, and they are great cars.


User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 2):
V70 is a great car!

 checkmark  Go with the Volvo.  Smile



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7762 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

All three of them are decent choices to be honest. I would be a careful about buying an older Volvo (or any older car for that matter).... not b/c it is a Volvo but more that older cars tend to have bigger repair bills when things fail or need to be replaced. Though if you find a well cared for example I would not hesitate to buy it. Boxy Volvo wagons are good looking, practical vehicles. While it may not get you laid in college, it will be useful for hauling stuff and people around comfortably.

While I like Volkswagens I would be a bit leery of a B5.5 Passat. There are enough known issues with those cars (coil packs on the 1.8T equipped cars, window regulators) that I would be careful on which one I picked. My brother owns a 2003 Passat wagon and it has been trouble-free. But these cars has known issues that you need to watch out for. Again a well-maintained example is worth spending more money for.

With both the Volvo and VW I would highly recommend that you find a good independent shop that specializes in that particular make. Finding one in your neck of the woods wouldn't be much of a problem.

The Altima is a nice car and probably a bit more exciting to drive than the usual Camcords. There are some issues with the 2.5 litre 4-cylinder models that you should familiarize yourself with. A well kept model with the V6 is a no-brainer. The VQ35DE is one of the best V6s out there. Powerful, reliable, and award winning.



Just to offer some more advice. With $9k there are two ways you can go. Find the newest cheapest car you can get for your money that will offer some sort of warranty coverage. Or spend a fair bit of extra time and find that older, original owner, well maintained car from a private party seller. Avoid the seemingly very nice, high-end vehicle, being sold dirt cheap. There is a reason for it, and you don't want to inherit the previous owners mess.



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User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1983 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

Quoting Runway777 (Reply 8):
VW or Volvo

nissan sucks

 checkmark  My roommate has a 2002 Altima 3.5 SE with 20,000kms. Now I have a 2002 Jetta 1.8T (Mexican not German) with 100,000kms and my car is in about the same shape as his, and we both drive the cars hard sometimes. The Atlima IMO is crap its filled with plastic its steering is crap its has no connection with the road at all, where as my car has a WAY better feel on the road then his. Overall though I would go with the Volvo I am looking at buying a new S40 T5 (A bit more power (and a 6 speed gear box) and looks much nicer IMO), anyways good luck with your choices if you go for the VW or the Volvo I am sure you are going to be happy.



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User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3081 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2632 times:

Quoting Md11fan (Thread starter):
2000-2003 Volkswagen Passat Wagon
1997-2001 Volvo V70

Not to discourage you man, but these two vehicles are a surefire way to become the laughing stock of the parking lot.

What is it about the Altima that you like say over an Accord, or other comprable mid size sedan?

Are you planning to finance? If not, good luck finding a decent model of any of the the three you listed.

Quoting AA787823 (Reply 1):
Nissan Altima with the V6.....

With $9,000 to spend?   

Quoting Runway777 (Reply 8):
nissan sucks

Oh wow, what a big kid you are! Full of thoughts and willing to back them up. Grow up.

Edited for spelling.

[Edited 2007-04-09 21:51:50]


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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2594 times:
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You might want to consider the new VW Rabbit:



They cost about $15,000, and come nicely equipped. With a $9000 down payment, you'd only be financing the remaining $6000. Your payments would probably be well under $100 per month.


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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

I'd go for either the Volvo or Volkswagen. Nissan's are great cars, but the Altima's interior is made up of very cheap materials and wear out quickly. I've had 2 Passat's (neither TDi) and were great cars.


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User currently offlineATLAaron From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2580 times:
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Well I know you did not list this as a choice but get a used Nissan Xterra. Best SUV for the money and is built on a truck chassis so it actually operates and handles like a truck (meaning you can actually go off road).

I have owned a lot of cars in my short driving life and the Xterra has been perhaps my favorite. Zero problems so far.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 17):
Well I know you did not list this as a choice but get a used Nissan Xterra.

With that I have to agree, the Xterra is an extremely well built and rugged little SUV. It is a bit crowded inside, but it's a great little vehicle.



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User currently offlineMd11fan From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 111 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2570 times:

Hmm 2H4 you bring up a very good point, I would be nice to have a New car! But huh i couldn't finance it by myself could I.

User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 14):
Not to discourage you man, but these two vehicles are a surefire way to become the laughing stock of the parking lot.

Why is that?



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2561 times:
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Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 17):
Well I know you did not list this as a choice but get a used Nissan Xterra.

Nice truck, but the additional fuel cost would almost amount to a monthly payment on a modestly-priced new car....




Quoting Md11fan (Reply 19):
Hmm 2H4 you bring up a very good point, I would be nice to have a New car! But huh i couldn't finance it by myself could I.

Just have a relative co-sign. No big deal. Also, remember that because it's a new car, you might be eligible for low APRs. I paid more for my new GTI than I had planned on, but it sure is nice to have a zero-mile car with a full warranty....


2H4





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User currently offlineMd11fan From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 111 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2560 times:

I know this is a stupid Question, but everytime i see a car comerical they always say APR 0.0. or 1.6 what in the hell is APR could someone shed some light on that!

[Edited 2007-04-10 02:48:33]

User currently offlineJutes85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

You will need more then 9 grand for a decent car.

User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7125 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2546 times:

Quoting Jutes85 (Reply 23):
You will need more then 9 grand for a decent car

True.

But what about a Jetta Wagon instead of a passat?
All I know is when I turned 16 a whole 1 1/2 years ago I did not think about ever driving a station wagon. I would drive a coupe sport car, a smalll sedan or an SUV and even a pickup but a staion wagon for a 16 year old? I just dont see the point. Sure you might have to carry alot of stuff but do you really want to drive a station wagon. Ever think about a pickup truck with the money you spend on gas you can save on insurance because pickups are really cheap to insure. SUV is not very economical, I know, I just spent $70.00 filling up my SUV last night at the gas station. But a station wagon? If I had to drive a station wagon in a lower price range it would be a VW Jetta Wagon. Somewhat cool unlike the 35 year old momther passat wagon. Not really any cars I can think of around 9,000 that I would drive that have alot of room and are ecconomical. When I think of a nice $9,000 car I think of an 98-99 Land Rover Discovery V8. Thats a good buy but you get 12mpg and repairs might be alot if the car breaks alot which is almost a given. So I say look for a nice Jetta or Jetta Wagon. Stay AWAY from Volvo your 16 not 40 with two kids. Nissan I really dont know anything about it. I like to stay with German cars.
Other cars that just come up in my mind.
Jeep Wrangler? Nice Jeep Cherokee, And used Police car decent performance and you can make it look like a police car and scare people on the road all the time. I know I hate speeding by an all black Crown Vic I always slow down for those things unless there sitting on 24s  Wink



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25 Post contains images FlyMIA : Why did the spell check not work for my above post? Exactly! There are no station wagons in my school parking lot. Just not a very cool car I cant str
26 2H4 : APR stands for Annual Percentage Rate. A loan with an APR of 0% is basically a free loan. If you borrow $10,000, you'll end up paying back $10,000. A
27 Krushny : The Volkswagen Passat Wagon has the best looks of the three (specially the 2000 model, I like it much more than the present one), I would pick that on
28 Post contains images KaiGywer : I don't think it fits his criteria. Nice car though. Did it replace the Golf? How mature. Then you get pulled over by the real cops
29 2H4 : Yeah, it wouldn't be exactly what he had in mind, but I don't think it would be very far off. You can get a four-door version, and it would be more s
30 Post contains images Trav110 : ... are you kidding? Personally, I'd stay away from the VW. My brother had a Golf hatchback, and it gave him nothing but trouble. You say you need sp
31 ACDC8 : No, the Rabbit did not replace the Gold. The Rabbit is the Golf 5, however, VW in North America has decided to put the Rabbit nameplate for our marke
32 Trav110 : The kid's a high-schooler, who's getting his first car. Everybody wants to have the coolest ride, it's just an immature-ish social stigma for that ag
33 ACDC8 : A ride is as cool as one can make it, there are plenty of station wagons out there that have been done up (with out spending lots of money) and look
34 Post contains images Trav110 : I never said that, I simply clarified FlyMIA and JetsGo's point of views as I had interpreted it. When I said station wagons weren't "cool", I was sp
35 SmithAir747 : I have actually used a Volvo station wagon in the last two years. My mother bought a used V70 wagon back in 2005, and she and I both LOVE it! When I d
36 ACDC8 : My apologies, I was reading 2 screens at once. My (ex) girlfriend has 3 kids in high school, so I'm in the parking lots almost every weekday. Agreed.
37 JetsGo : Right, so from one sentence, you are able to gather enough information to make a sweeping generalization like that? Listen, I think you are the one w
38 Post contains images 2H4 : As you pointed out, it has in the US market......the market to which I was referring. 2H4
39 FlyMIA : First don’t say I don’t know what I am talking about. Because I am a kid, I am only 17 years old. I know how the world is right now for a kid in
40 Post contains images ACDC8 : There were more then one sentence(s), read my post again. I'm fully aware of what I'm talking about. I never stated that anyone insulted anyone. Ever
41 Post contains links F9Widebody : Not true. http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/sp...=Volkswagen&model=Rabbit&trimid=-1 http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/sp...make=Nissan&model=Altima&t
42 Md11fan : Yup im not going to be driving some stock car im already saving up for all that good stuff, and im doing my research so i can get the most outa a pro
43 Post contains images Mir : Your spelling and grammar, on the other hand.... -Mir
44 Post contains images 2H4 : Well I'll be damned. I've ridden in the back seat of both, and I could have sworn the Rabbit had more room. Come to think of it, it was an older gene
45 Post contains images Md11fan : Ya i know i just spell bad on a comp.
46 Md11fan : OK well i have updated my list: 1.VW Passat Variant 2. Ford Crown Vic 3. My moms 98 Chevy Tahoe So ya i have now bumped my maximum price to 10K, any a
47 Post contains images FlyMIA : yes that is a just about the norm for an upper middle class 16 year old. Well I am sure you will make your car great, but your going to have to put a
48 Flight152 : As per Car and Driver, the most expensive V6 Passat Sedan only beats the base 328i sedan 0.2mph to 60; the heavier wagon wouldn't be faster and the 4
49 Md11fan : Well why would i get a 4 cylinder, I would get the V6, dont forget im going more for Performance. So why not slap on a Cold air intake, Custom Test p
50 Post contains images JetsGo : These can be pretty cheap. Do you work by any chance? If so, you really need to consider putting the10 thousand down, and financing say another 6-7 t
51 JetsGo : If so, than you are looking at a the wrong setup of cars man. Why not take that $1,500 and put it towards a nicer car?
52 Md11fan : Cause i like the features of the Passat and it fits my needs, I mean ya i could put it towards a passat with like 5K miles less but to me that really
53 TUSaadvantage : Hey, as a sixteen year old, I drive my 1988 toyota camry wagon with pride. After slapping on a tuner decal, getting a new paint job, and putting on so
54 ACDC8 : I never said you called him stupid or anything, however, your remark about some one driving a station wagon becoming the laughing stock of the parkin
55 BHXFAOTIPYYC : Has anyone asked about insurance? I think that could influence your decision. Depending on your income level, you'll usually find parts for domestic
56 Post contains images KaiGywer : So basically it replaced it At least on the name basis Kinda like A vs. B over in Civ-Av
57 Sudden : I would go for the V70, but then the V70R. 300 hp and you can easily crank i up even more. The Volvo has comfort as well as performance. When it comes
58 Flight152 : Chevy Tahoe? Crown Vic? How do these exactly offer performance?
59 Post contains images JetsGo : Remember, he is on a budget here. Your list of Ford Mustangs and Volkswagen Jettas was pretty spot on. Those are big in the school parking lots.
60 Sudden : Oops, I missed that part. Sorry about that. Aim for the sky! Sudden
61 Post contains images HeliflyerPDC : buy the volvo, I have a V50 and my dad a XC70 (both +/- 2 years old) V50, it's one of the best , drives well easy steering, good safety( as every volv
62 Md11fan : Well the Tahoe is my moms and she really is looking for something smaller and more fuel efficient (that is really the only reason i dont want it) she
63 FlyMIA : Well there not that fast. I think they go 0-60 in around 7.8s but they will hit 130-135mph since the police do use them. And you could make the V8 so
64 Flight152 : Sure they have a V8, but they are hardly fast. On top of that they weigh a lot and have handling properties of a polyester sectional sofa. Hardly per
65 Post contains images 2H4 : Yeah, but they make rednecks and teenage boys think you have an enormous penis. To many people, that's apparently a significant benefit. 2H4
66 Post contains images ACDC8 : On a name basis, it's been re-branded . It's still a Golf (Golf V to be exact which has been around for 4 years already) and is just being marketed a
67 Post contains images KaiGywer : Noooo
68 Emrecan : Of course Volvo... Don't think so much...
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