Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 55 Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1157 times:
I don't think it's going to be anything straightforward. The actual moment of possible return is neither here nor there really, it's how it's all done. The cast keep saying that the ending is fabulous, so let's hope they aren't over-egging it.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
EK20 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1154 times:
Sam finally asks Annie to spend one night in his company. A pivotal scene with Sam and Frank Morgan takes place in a graveyard. Several tombstones shed some light on what might be going on.
As for the ending, a more recent David Bowie single than 'Life On Mars' offers a big hint, if you delve into his early '90s material.
Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 55 Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1152 times:
Quoting EK20 (Reply 3): Sam finally asks Annie to spend one night in his company. A pivotal scene with Sam and Frank Morgan takes place in a graveyard. Several tombstones shed some light on what might be going on.
That's not really much info though - all that is in the trailer for it, and the trailer isn't going to give anything away. Typical tabloid stuff saying they know what's going to happen three weeks out, when all they've seen is the trailer.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
Kieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1143 times:
I have a strange feeling that it's actually Gene Hunt who ran Sam over in the first place. The reason I think this is from what the acting DCI said last week when Gene was framed for murder. We'll see tonight!
EK20 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1141 times:
I'm gonna go with the Wizard Of Oz theory. Gene Hunt's constant references to Sam as a "Dorothy" and that Frank Morgan is the name of the actor who played the Wizard of Oz in that film. He wakes up and Anne is his nurse. Either this or he snuffs it.
Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 55 Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1138 times:
Quoting Kieron747 (Reply 5): I have a strange feeling that it's actually Gene Hunt who ran Sam over in the first place.
Hmm. That's an interesting thought. You could be on to something there, though I would imagine they have to be careful what they do if they want to still have Hunt in the proposed spin-off they're talking about.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 55 Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1133 times:
Quoting Cornish (Reply 8): Doctor Who transports him forward in time to where he belongs
Yes, indeed. He's going to be the Master, I believe. And incidentally, that episode of Doctor Who on Saturday was absolutely brilliant. Some of the jokes...
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
GSM763 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1124 times:
Quoting Banco (Reply 7): Hmm. That's an interesting thought. You could be on to something there, though I would imagine they have to be careful what they do if they want to still have Hunt in the proposed spin-off they're talking about.
I don't think the spinoff is going to come to anything it could just be an idea they're putting around to keep us guessing.
Quoting Kieron747 (Reply 5): I have a strange feeling that it's actually Gene Hunt who ran Sam over in the first place
That's an interesting idea well we'll now very soon!
It was what DCI Frank Morgan said last week... "Hunt wiggled out of it this time." and when he then tells Sam that it won't be long before Hunt receives his come uppance and Sam can "come home."
I can't wait till tonight though, its been a fantastic series. I loved it last week when Sam was trying to get into the murder house using a screwdriver, and then Hunt just kicked the door in! Great!
Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 55 Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1117 times:
Quoting Kieron747 (Reply 11): It was what DCI Frank Morgan said last week... "Hunt wiggled out of it this time." and when he then tells Sam that it won't be long before Hunt receives his come uppance and Sam can "come home."
Yes, it's definitely something to do with it. But we don't know whether he's a "good guy" or not yet. Trying to fit up Hunt for a murder doesn't sound like he's on the side of the angels somehow.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
EK20 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1111 times:
I've just had a look on David Bowie's website and it says:
(we can exclusively reveal) during the closing ten minutes or so of the show, you can expect to hear both the title track and Changes.
Apparently, there is more than a grain of truth in the persistent rumour that an offshoot of the series is to be titled Ashes To Ashes, and that it's going to be based around DCI Gene Hunt in early eighties Brixton.
So basically it's going to revolve around the song Changes.
Kieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1037 times:
I liked it!
Great how they made 21st century life seem so antiseptic compared to the 70's. I'm glad he 'went back' there to rescue the team. All in all I think it was a good conclusion to what could have been a difficult story to find a solution to. The potential to write yourself into a corner must have been immense, and I think they handled it very well.
EK20 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1030 times:
Quoting Banco (Reply 18): Is he now dead, do we think?
That's what I thought. He jumped off the building so he must have been dead. I guess it was a lesson in life. Go with your heart and do what you want to do no matter what.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12705 posts, RR: 80 Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1024 times:
Well wasn't he almost clinically brain dead throughout?
Was the final return to 1973 flourish, the subconscious of a falling, then dying man?
I like the way they led us on to a safe, happy, rather obvious conclusion, then trashed it!
No mention of what happened to Sam's 2006 partner, the female copper Maya though, maybe unsaid that she had died then, suggested in episode one/series one, so Sam felt even less need to be back.
I've never had a problem with fiction not having obvious, neat endings.
When I heard that Jimmy Saville was to be in this last one, I thought, 'great yeah, creep me out even more', just a voice-over though.
But then the creepiest of all, in the very final scene, that TestCard Girl switching us (and maybe Sam, at the actual moment of death), off.
My generation remembers that test card, I remember, just, being fascinated by it.
Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 55 Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 989 times:
Quoting GDB (Reply 20): No mention of what happened to Sam's 2006 partner, the female copper Maya though, maybe unsaid that she had died then, suggested in episode one/series one
You must have missed a recent one. She moved on, telling Sam's subconscious that she had to live her own life.
Quoting GDB (Reply 20): that TestCard Girl switching us (and maybe Sam, at the actual moment of death), off.
Yes, that's how I thought it must be, you have them saying that they're "losing him", the car drives off into the sunset, then the girl turns it all off.
On reflection, it's probably slightly less ambiguous than I first thought. Sam has to be dying at the end, nothing else makes any sense.
Which IF they do the follow up series mooted, Ashes to Ashes, does raise a question. Would Gene Hunt remember Sam Tyler, or did none of it happen at all?
So they did promise us a spectacular ending, and they did deliver it seems. Just for a moment, I thought it was going to be a weak happy ever after finish, but a look at the clock suggested there was time for a twist, and there certainly was, wasn't there?!
All in all, I'm fairly confident that Life On Mars will go down in the TV annals as a memorable oiece of television. Less is often more, and it'll be just 16 episodes of brilliance. Well done the Beeb for having the courage to commission what must have been a bonkers idea.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
25 Cornish: Yep - remember the barman saying to him in the past that if Sam couldn't feel anything then he was dead. Sam could back then of course. But in the mo
26 Banco: And hence concern at the BBC, as a the principal character in one of their flagship dramas commits suicide in front of millions. Think about that for
27 Banco: Ha! A poll of Gene Hunt's best lines resulted as follows: 1. Don’t move, you’re surrounded by armed bastards – 28 per cent 2. He’s got fingers
28 GDB: The series was first mooted in 1999, BBC turned it down, then Channel 4 started to develop it, then dropped it, then BBC picked it up again. (The Offi
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