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Don Imus Is Fired  
User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

here is the first available article.
thousands more to come.

this has the statement from Leslie Moonves.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/entertainment/2007/04/imus_off_cbs.html

[Edited 2007-04-12 22:58:15]


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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

http://abcnews.go.com/ now has it.

before CBS.

how ironic.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3034035&page=1



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

Good precedent.

So, when can we expect all the record companies to fire all the rappers who use terms like "nigger", "ho", etc. etc.?


User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 2):
So, when can we expect all the record companies to fire all the rappers who use terms like "nigger", "ho", etc. etc.?

Don't be stupid Charles.

It's the same reason why you can call your wife a bitch and I can't.


User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 2):
Good precedent.

So, when can we expect all the record companies to fire all the rappers who use terms like "nigger", "ho", etc. etc.?

When pigs fly, I expect. Have you ever heard the term "double standard"?


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 2):

lovin' it.

the whole thing is ridiculous.

and how did i just KNOW that Oprah was going to bring Maya Angelou into her little rap (can i say that?) session with the team today.



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 3):
It's the same reason why you can call your wife a bitch and I can't.

So much for MLK's dream of a colorblind society...

The whole idea was that what was allowed for one group would be allowed for all, and what would be wrong for one group would be wrong for all.

BTW, I would never ever call my wife a bitch. Says something about you though if you think it would be ok...

[Edited 2007-04-12 23:05:27]

User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1133 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

When will Al Sharpton get fired??? What Imus said was screwed up,but there's things that are just as bad or worse,and no your race does not entitle you to spew this crap.

User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
BTW, I would never ever call my wife a bitch.

Not the point. You CAN say "Damn my wife is being a bitch". If I said: "Damn dude, your wife is a bitch" I would expect to get punched in the face, and rightfully so.

Get it now?


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 8):

girls, come on now. you're both pretty.

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 7):

no kidding.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
So much for MLK's dream of a colorblind society...

we are really agreeing thus far. are the stars aligned differently?!



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User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1107 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 7):
When will Al Sharpton get fired???

Where does he work?



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1969 times:

I'll have to say that I'm not surprised by this at all. Once MSNBC axed their simulcast of his show, you knew that the end was near for him @ CBS Radio. The fact that it took them (CBS Radio) this long after the incident to fire him is shocking; had it been Howard Stern, they probably would have fired him within a matter of a day or two. CBS Radio is royally screwed now as well since they were somewhat dependent on Imus to improve their fortunes since Stern left (O & A are part of this bid to make up for the revenue CBS Radio has lost since Stern left for Sirius). This makes the rumors of CBS Radio being sold and potentially broken up more likely.

In some ways, Imus did this entire backwards. He could have used the old age/senility and/or the ravages of drug and alcohol abuse in the past angle and probably things wouldn't have been so bad and perhaps people would have felt sorry for him. The statements and apologies he has made in the aftermath just dug a deeper hole for him.

Unlike during his heyday at WNBC when he was fired and rehired on an almost regular basis (This was during the height of his drug and alcohol abuse), he won't be returning to CBS Radio. There probably is someone out there willing to take the risk of having him on the air and he'll probably be back in the saddle again in a matter of months. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the jump to satellite radio (Heck, if he would have said it on satellite radio, it probably wouldn't have made headlines.).


User currently offlineTZ757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2877 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1969 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 3):
It's the same reason why you can call your wife a bitch and I can't.

Yup, double standard is still there, as it always has been. Shame he's getting fired, he really could have said a whole lot worse.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 2):
So, when can we expect all the record companies to fire all the rappers who use terms like "nigger", "ho", etc. etc.?

Never, those words create money for the companies because they are saying words that arn't socially acceptable.



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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 11):
I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the jump to satellite radio

we're placing bets on the News Network on how long it'll take to announce a deal.

everyone's saying within three weeks.



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User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

Quoting Rlwynn (Reply 10):
Where does he work?

Anywhere there's a fool who will listen.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 3):
It's the same reason why you can call your wife a bitch and I can't.

Well, you can call another man's wife a bitch, but you just have to do it behind their back like everyone else.

EDIT: Someone stole the space between a couple of words. Bastard!


[Edited 2007-04-12 23:22:10]

User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1943 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 14):
Well, you cancall another man's wife a bitch, but you just have to do it behind their back like everyone else.

Exactly, and not on a national radio show.  Wink


User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

This is all a bunch of horseshit! Imus is fired from a show he has been doing for decades for saying one dumb thing? It just shows how screwed up the media industry is. I am sure CBS is going to be all sanctimonious about it and say something like "we don't tolerate that kind of thing here". Well, I have one question, why did it take so long? The answer, after the sponsors pulled out CBS suddenly decided it would be the right thing to do. I wounder if no sponsors dropped him would he still have been fired? Probably not. If Imus should have been fired they should have done it right off, not wait so long. I think the whole thing just smells rotten. He should be punished but not in such a half assed disjointed way.

User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1926 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 16):
Imus is fired from a show he has been doing for decades for saying one dumb thing? It just shows how screwed up the media industry is

heaven forbid anybody ever calls one of those gals a "bitch"



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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1909 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 16):
This is all a bunch of horseshit! Imus is fired from a show he has been doing for decades for saying one dumb thing? It just shows how screwed up the media industry is. I am sure CBS is going to be all sanctimonious about it and say something like "we don't tolerate that kind of thing here". Well, I have one question, why did it take so long? The answer, after the sponsors pulled out CBS suddenly decided it would be the right thing to do. I wounder if no sponsors dropped him would he still have been fired? Probably not. If Imus should have been fired they should have done it right off, not wait so long. I think the whole thing just smells rotten. He should be punished but not in such a half assed disjointed way.

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Yup, total bullshit. I find it interesting i've seen no one mention that Imus wasn't the first to say 'ho', there was a comment prior. Surely he is responsible for his own words and reactions, but it is asinine for this enormous scope of outrage and his eventual firing to stem from a single, knee-jerk response such as this. Of course it was a stupid thing to say, but I don't believe for one minute that Don is a racist or that it was anything more than a misguided joke. I actually have listened to Imus's show quite a bit, unlike most of these armchair quarterbacks coming out of the woodwork thinking they know jack shit about the guy.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 13):
we're placing bets on the News Network on how long it'll take to announce a deal.

everyone's saying within three weeks.

Concur with that assessment and will say that he'll end up signing with XM and will do afternoons on the Virus Channel (He is a friend and supporter of Opie & Anthony, so it would not surprise me to see him end up on their channel.). Needless to say, if the Sirius-XM merger goes through, it'll be go grab the popcorn time because of Imus' and Stern's long standing feud.


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 8):
Not the point. You CAN say "Damn my wife is being a bitch". If I said: "Damn dude, your wife is a bitch" I would expect to get punched in the face, and rightfully so.

 redflag 
There is a relationship between a husband and wife that is either religious or legal or some combination of the two. A rapper exploiting his race to call black women "bitches" or "hoes" is nowhere near the same thing.

What Imus did was wrong. I've never liked him so I really don't care if he got fired. But for anyone to say that there is not a double standard when it comes to this is absurd and is just ignoring the reality.

Look at what Sharpton said about the Duke player.
Look at what he's called the citizens of New York.

Perhaps to good reverend should open the good book - let he who is without sin cast the first stone.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 16):

CBS Radio has a long history of treating some of their personalities like crap. Imus wasn't the first nor will he be the last personality CBS Radio does this way. I hope Imus has exclusive rights to his past shows, as if he doesn't, we could see a repeat of what transpired this time last year regarding CBS Radio and the rights to the Stern K-Rock Tapes.


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 19):

it'll be interesting to hear Howard Stern's comments. despite their rivalry ... he should be behind him 100%.



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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 17):
heaven forbid anybody ever calls one of those gals a "bitch"

What does that mean exactly?



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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

Finally a voice of reason coming out of the back community: just on PTI Mike Wilbon said that he didn't feel Imus should have been fired. Hallelujah, how long did this take?


The big loser here: listeners and viewers in the country as a whole. Imus in the Morning had its moments as a very good radio program with a star-studded lineup of guests who provided solid political news and insight from very regular guests such as John McCain and Joe Biden to name a few.

My biggest pet peeve: everyone who knows NOTHING about this radio program or Imus needs to SHUT UP and realize their glaring ignorance about the content/quality/nature of the program or just using the popular 'shock jock' term to describe Imus- as well as many worse to make him a villain. So people: know your place and that your ability to comment on the man's career and show is limited to 3 words, and that the entire basis of your argument is stemming from those 3 words. Just something to think about..



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25 Srbmod : He predicted that Imus was going to get fired and even said that he'd like to have him on the show. During this week, listeners have heard a lot of t
26 STLGph : Personally, I'd be much more offended over being called a "bitch" than a "ho" Then again, this is me speaking and not a whole lot really bothers me.
27 Brick : Everyone in the United States needs to ask themselves this question. Do you want to live in a country in which you have the choice not to listen to Do
28 IAH777 : Don't forget the ESPN hour-long docudrama, starring Mel Gibson as Don Imus.
29 PSA53 : Since the main media is washing their hands on Imus, I hope the media will put "cameras down" on Sharpton. His big reckless mouth has cost him his cre
30 JpetekYXMD80 : Absolutely. Had Imus used bitch in this instance, it would have been more malicious than jokingly....but there wouldn't be as much racial connotation
31 Post contains images FXramper : Imus will be back on the air (XM) making way more money, and better yet, will be able to say what he wants and get away with it. Listening to the talk
32 Miamiair : Right on the money. What a load of crap. Al Sharpton is one to talk; his bullshit with the Tawana Brawley case precedes him. Blowhard needs to keep h
33 STLGph : and i completely agree with you on that. i dont know why they even bother to give him the time of day ... probably some News Director wants to meet a
34 Daedaeg : It almost seems like CBS has been waiting to fire this guy and found the perfect excuse to do just that. I'm not convinced they were persuaded by Al a
35 Post contains images Fridgmus : This is just another "Politcally correct case of pandering to the Black community". Imus didn't mean it in a malicious way, but as usual, things got b
36 JpetekYXMD80 : What would make you say that? This is an economic decision- don't be fooled- because the ad dollars went running, as well as MSNBC. If CBS was waitin
37 Post contains images Srbmod : No, it came down to the almighty Too many big name companies were threatening to pull their ads not only from Imus' show but from CBS Radio in genera
38 Ewmahle : I am not going to sit here and act like I was an avid listener of the show. In fact I never even heard of him or the show until I caught one morning o
39 Post contains images AirTranTUS : Maybe someone stated this in another thread, but I don't see how "nappy-headed ho" refers to black females. It wouldn't have crossed my mind. Since th
40 Post contains images NWA742 : Pretty much what I've been saying in the other thread. I think what Imus said was stupid, and I think he got what he deserved. Why? He's done this fo
41 TedTAce : Who is Imus? Signed, Everyone who listens to Howard or Mancow. Imus got his just deserts. While I don't think what he said was AS BAD as the N bomb; i
42 Jaysit : Its not just one dumb thing. Its just the straw that finally broke the camel's back. Imus has been making simian (that's monkey-like to those who don
43 ANCFlyer : Apparently not if you're Rap Star or are African American - as it is still acceptable to use the word Nigger and Hoe in every day conversation, comed
44 TPASXM787 : Amazing. I agree with everything you have said. Now Olbermann is making his list of who else should be fired, including Limbaugh(who I am not a fan o
45 Rlwynn : I think the main point here is not so much what he said. But where it took place. ANYBODY would get fired for saying such things on the public airwave
46 TPASXM787 : He's been spewing the same, if not worse, crap for 30 years. This time he offended the wrong people.
47 Charlienorth : Listening to Richard Pryor tapes?
48 Post contains links and images Halls120 : Work? Rev Al doesn't work, he agitates. Wilbon is being a bit slick here. Here is what he wrote in the Post on 4/11: "And while I'm not agitating for
49 JpetekYXMD80 : Interesting...seems he is trying to walk the tightrope. At least i can swallow that better than most of what i've seen. Earlier on Around the Horn, M
50 Luv2fly : I have to agree! And on that note I have to agree with what someone else said on the subject. "I think since Don has been fired...Isaiah Washington s
51 NWA742 : Precisely. It's sad. -NWA742
52 J_Hallgren : What we need now is the AS/JJ duo to insist that any and all media hosts or on recordings who say anything or play anything negative about blacks or w
53 AirCop : I admit that I didn't read all 52 posts, but while not a Don Imus fan, it is a sad day for free speech. Fire him for ratings, or something else but fo
54 Galapagapop : I still can't believe how big of a deal some are making of this. It was one dang phrase, hell if it was the N word it wouldn't be written anywhere in
55 Gatorman96 : When you consider things like the war in Iraq, Iran and NK's nukes, and who is going to win the EK 787/A350 order, you tend to realize petty things li
56 CastleIsland : Perhaps this is off-topic, but precision relates to multiple measurements and how close they are to one another. Accuracy relates to how close measur
57 L-188 : Agreed, it was just a political witchhunt, the sad part is that what he said wasn't racist, it was sexist. There are several white players on that te
58 Captaink : Dude, hos is one thing, but going on the radio and calling a team, a bunch of nappy headed hos.. WTF. You don't do that. Sure there are worse things
59 Tsaord : I wonder though if he wasn't fired would there have been mass protest if he was still on the air? Did they feel pressure form aomeone other than the 1
60 CaptainJon : I don't listen to Stern anymore. At the end of his tenure on KROCK he became such a baby claiming he is limited to his speech. What he can and can no
61 Homer71 : Get ready, everyone, looks like I'm making a comeback! Sincerely, The Fairness Doctrine
62 Post contains links LHMARK : Just like a printing press operator losing a finger in the machine, or a miner in a cave-in, Imus fell victim to the most dangerous occupational hazar
63 Post contains images ORFflyer : You're bitching in this thread, and the other one, and then you call someone a "doglike carnivore" Pot - Kettle - Black
64 J_Hallgren : And that ranch for the cancer kids will be the REAL loser in all of this! Are JJ/AS planning to take up the slack in funding it? NOT likely! Since TH
65 Post contains links and images Allstarflyer :       I thought Stern and Mancow hated each other, too. If they hate each other, and Stern and Imus hate each other, does a common enemy make Man
66 Post contains images Srbmod : You mean there are folks actually listening to me? Signed, Mancow The firing came down to the almighty not free speech. CBS Radio has already lost qu
67 Post contains images Piercey : Hey man, I like Imus . Honestly, just because this whole thing came down to , I think this whole thing is bs. Would have been what the CEO of CBS Rad
68 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : Since he never smiled, never changed the tone of his voice, and never took off that fucking, cornball cowboy hat, I'm not upset to see the chronicall
69 Lucky42 : Right on...I don't care for IMUS but I am so sick of Sharpton and Jackson and their bullshit..My mom has the perfect definition of them she calls the
70 Post contains images Piercey : Ehh... Sharpton used to do a lot of good things for the Chicago area and then went downhill. Jackson was always a corrupt SOB (sunburned) piercey in
71 RayChuang : I think what makes the entire dismissal look so ridiculous was the CBS/Westwood One essentially pandered to the Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson crowd and to
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