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Gov. Corzine Critical After Crash  
User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12163 posts, RR: 36
Posted (7 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1613 times:
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GALLOWAY TOWNSHIP, N.J. - April 12, 2007 - New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine is recuperating after two hours of surgery to repair a broken leg and other serious injuries sustained in an accident Thursday night.

New Jersey State Police are still looking for a red pickup truck that they said caused the accident that injured Corzine and two others shortly after 6:00 Thursday night on the Garden State Parkway near milemarker 43.5 in Galloway Township.
Corzine, 60, was taken to Cooper Hospital in Camden along with the state trooper who was driving and an aide.


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

I saw this headline last night. I hope he recovers quick and can walk again like normal.



New Jersey State Police are still looking for a red pickup truck that they said caused the accident that injured Corzine

A red pickup truck runs over a blue governor?

Oh that was bad! Embarrassment



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12878 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

He was traveling from a meeting in Atlantic City to the Governor's mansion near Trenton, to meet with the Rutgers Woman's Basketball team and Don Imus. The accident happened near the 45 mile point on the Garden State Parkway, north of Atlantic CIty.
Apparently, some a-hole in a red pickup truck tried to pass on the right shoulder, swerved to the left into the slow lane, hit a white pickup truck, shoving the white truck into the side of the vehicle the governor was into the grass on the left side of the road and into a guard rail. The red p/u that caused this took off and police are looking for it.
Governor Corzine was very badly injured, including numerous broken ribs, broken sternum, compound fracture of his upper left leg. He needed 7 pints of blood. He had other minor injuries, is being kept under sedation and will require further surgery this weekend, and will out of much of his daily duties for several months. The State Police officer who was driving and probably prevented far worse injures to all, had minor injures, an aide to the Gov. had only minor injuries. It is believed that Gov. Corzine was in the back seat and WASN'T WEARING HIS SEAT BELT!!!
In the meantime, Richard Codey, the head of the State Senate, will be Acting Governor, a job he did before when former Gov. McGreevy resigned (NJ doesn't have a Lt. Gov.)
Let us pray for a complete recovery.


User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3266 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1591 times:

How long will it be, before NJ starts cracking down on asshole drivers?


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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1571 times:

Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery. That said...

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 2):
He was traveling from a meeting in Atlantic City to the Governor's mansion near Trenton, to meet with the Rutgers Woman's Basketball team and Don Imus.

I'm wondering how the Imus/Rutgers issue directly concerns Gov Corzine, other than Rutgers Univ is located in his state? Why was he even going to this meeting?

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1562 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 2):
It is believed that Gov. Corzine was in the back seat and WASN'T WEARING HIS SEAT BELT!!!

This was stupid on his part. Seriously, we have a seatbelt law in NJ, he's driven around by State Troopers, come on...wear the damn thing and set an example.

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 3):
How long will it be, before NJ starts cracking down on asshole drivers?

As a NJ driver I can tell you the ONLY asshole drivers I see, have out of state plates. The left lane is for passing...jerks.

When you people learn how to use a jughandle and a traffic circle then you can drive in NJ. Meanwhile, get the hell out of our way! Big grin


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 days ago) and read 1545 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 2):
. It is believed that Gov. Corzine was in the back seat and WASN'T WEARING HIS SEAT BELT!!!

Isn't it amazing that the law never applies to elected government officials. Willie Brown when he was the Speaker of the Assembly in California was a prime example of do what I tell you, but not what I do.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 days ago) and read 1544 times:

"Doctors said when Corzine arrived at the hospital, he was conscious but had several injuries: a femur bone broken in two places that had lacerated his skin, a broken sternum, six broken ribs on each side, a head laceration and a minor fracture on a lower vertebra. Rasinski had minor injuries and the aide was not hurt."

Source: www.cnn.com

It takes a hell of a lot of force to fracture a sternum and six ribs on each side. Likewiese to fracture a femur to that extent. Based of the extent and types of injury, I'll bet he hit the dashboard. Hence, no seatbelt. Airbags don't cause that kind of damage.

You'd think the state trooper would have reminded him to wear it.

BTW, aren't those government Suburbans armoured and bulletproof?


User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 days ago) and read 1543 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):
BTW, aren't those government Suburbans armoured and bulletproof?

Only when he goes to Camden, Paterson or Newark!


User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2525 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

Apparently he was sitting in the back, and wasn't wearing his seatbelt (which he NEVER wears according to the news)... One witness said he saw Corzine with his legs hanging out the window, snapped, and screaming "my leg! my leg!"

I'm sorry he was in an accident, but if you never wear your seatbelt, it's your own fault... The other people in the car suffered only minor injuries


User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7482 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 2):
It is believed that Gov. Corzine was in the back seat and WASN'T WEARING HIS SEAT BELT!!!

An article from The Philadelphia Inquirer stated that Corzine was sitting in the front seat and that his personal assistant, Samantha Gordon was seated in the back.

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/home_...0070413_Corzine_hurt_in_crash.html



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User currently offlineORFflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

I've heard the Governor was heading to "mediate" the Imus verus the Rutgers Basketball Team meeting.

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 4):
Why was he even going to this meeting?

I heard it was to "mediate" the meeting. No source though, I got that from a co-worker.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 11):
I've heard the Governor was heading to "mediate" the Imus verus the Rutgers Basketball Team meeting.

Sounds like they did fine without him.  Silly


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1485 times:

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 4):
I'm wondering how the Imus/Rutgers issue directly concerns Gov Corzine, other than Rutgers Univ is located in his state? Why was he even going to this meeting?

Rutgers is part of the state university system in New Jersey, which the Governor would be the head of.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 5):
This was stupid on his part. Seriously, we have a seatbelt law in NJ, he's driven around by State Troopers, come on...wear the damn thing and set an example.

The guy was almost killed. Criticize him after he recovers and after you know the whole story.



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User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1472 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Criticize him after he recovers and after you know the whole story.
Gov. Jon S. Corzine was apparently not wearing his seat belt as required by law when his official SUV crashed into a guard rail, leaving the governor hospitalized in critical condition, a spokesman said Friday.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/13/corzine.crash.ap/index.html

Whole Story.

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 9):
but if you never wear your seatbelt, it's your own fault... The other people in the car suffered only minor injuries


Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):
It takes a hell of a lot of force to fracture a sternum and six ribs on each side. Likewiese to fracture a femur to that extent. Based of the extent and types of injury, I'll bet he hit the dashboard. Hence, no seatbelt. Airbags don't cause that kind of damage.


Quoting AirCop (Reply 6):
Isn't it amazing that the law never applies to elected government officials.
Interesting that you singled me out for criticizing the Governor's lack of common sense. Doubly interesting since one of the other people to make the comment is actually from NJ as well. I think those of us from New Jersey know best on how to critique the behavior of politicians that represent us.

He was nearly killed. Because he didn't wear a seat belt. Something that is the LAW in New Jersey. It's dumb. It nearly killed him..and I'm willing to bet he'd be the first one to say it was a dumb thing for him to do.

I'm gratified to read that they think they might have camera footage from the tollbooths on the Parkway, of the red pick-up in question. I hope they get the driver.

[Edited 2007-04-13 21:05:30]

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 14):
Interesting that you singled me out for critizing the Governor's lack of common sense

Your's was the first post I noticed.

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 14):
I think those of us from New Jersey know best on how to critize the behavior of politicians that represent us.

Just wait till you know the guy is ok.



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User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1456 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
Just wait till you know the guy is ok.

Friday morning, the hospital's trauma chief, Dr. Steven E. Ross, said Corzine was stable and improving, and that he could be removed from a ventilator within the next few days. Corzine remained heavily sedated because the pain from chest injuries made it difficult to breathe, Ross said.

"He's in serious shape, but he's alive and going to survive. Hopefully, he'll be back to work in a few weeks," Codey said Friday on WNBC-TV.

From the previous CNN article.

He's going to live.

Maybe with a limp to remind him of how dumb he was. Which is more of a second chance than some people get.


User currently offlineDrDeke From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 830 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1447 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
The guy was almost killed. Criticize him after he recovers and after you know the whole story.

I know, I know, it's not nice & etc.

But when the GOVERNOR of a state can't follow his OWN STATE LAW on the wearing of seatbelts, particularly when a STATE POLICE OFFICER is driving the car, I think he deserves any ridicule he gets over it.

I am sorry for his injuries, but they aren't going to get any better or worse based on whether we discuss or refrain from discussing his illegal action that appears to be one of the main causes of the serious injuries he received.

DrDeke



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
The guy was almost killed. Criticize him after he recovers and after you know the whole story.

We HAVE to criticize him now. He might die in the next ten minutes. It's hard to criticize someone after they're in the ground.

BTW, with that kind of leg fracture and all those broken ribs, there's a high risk of him throwing a fat embolus. If that happens (and it can happen at anytime), he'll probably die. Also, the fact that it was an open fracture with the bone ends and fragments protruding through the skin, he's at extremely high risk for developing a massive infection.


User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1411 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 18):

I think he'd have been in danger if a compound fracture happened away from help. But he was airlifted to Cooper Medical Center which has a really good trauma center. He's got the best care available, but I think the point is that he wouldn't need that much care, if he simply taken some simple commonplace precautions.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 19):
I think he'd have been in danger if a compound fracture happened away from help.

The fat embolism occurs after the healing process starts. It can occur at anytime until the bone is completely healed.

Here you go. http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40001215/


User currently offlineCharger From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1372 times:

Gee, will he get a ticket for not wearing his seatbelt?? I am sure plenty of police officers seen him with out it on.

I hope he recovers and will be fine, and I am sorry he had this accident but his injuries wouldn't have been half as bad if he was following the law and had his belt on.


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1340 times:

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 14):
but if you never wear your seatbelt, it's your own fault... The other people in the car suffered only minor injuries


Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):
It takes a hell of a lot of force to fracture a sternum and six ribs on each side. Likewiese to fracture a femur to that extent. Based of the extent and types of injury, I'll bet he hit the dashboard. Hence, no seatbelt. Airbags don't cause that kind of damage.


Quoting AirCop (Reply 6):
Isn't it amazing that the law never applies to elected government officials.
Interesting that you singled me out for criticizing the Governor's lack of common sense.

Where did anyone single you out for criticizing the Governor?

Quoting DrDeke (Reply 17):
But when the GOVERNOR of a state can't follow his OWN STATE LAW on the wearing of seatbelts, particularly when a STATE POLICE OFFICER is driving the car, I think he deserves any ridicule he gets over it.

Perhaps even the Governor will be laughing at himself later..


User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1324 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
after you know the whole story.



Quote:
Corzine chief of staff Tom Shea said he did not believe the governor had been wearing his seat belt.

"If he was not, he certainly should have been," Shea said, "and we would encourage the state police to issue a citation."

That's from http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070413/D8OFVKKG0.html I'd say that if his chief of staff is saying this then that's pretty much the whole story.

One other odd bit of trivia from the story, Corzine is the 3rd governor in a row to break his/her leg while in office for NJ. What are the odds on that?



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1320 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 22):
Perhaps even the Governor will be laughing at himself later..

The hole in his neck will have to heal first. Unless he plugs it with his finger everytime he wants to laugh.



[Edited 2007-04-14 06:12:22]

25 UALPHLCS : This is the Home state of Tony Soprano! N1120A did, he gave an explaination, so I dropped it. That picture doen't look like Gov. Corzine! Unless he's
26 BHMBAGLOCK : Believe me, I'm well aware of it. I worked for an small aerospace company in Pennsauken about ten years ago that had many problems, One of them was t
27 UALPHLCS : Hey Cool! I grew up in Cinnaminson just up 130 from Pennsauken.
28 Learpilot : After I got a bullshit ticket for "failure to turn" in Lodi (just north of the TEB airport), you can add me to the list of people who hopes he gets a
29 LTBEWR : Earlier today, the located the red pick up truck that caused the accident. The driver of the truck is someone who is 'special' that is borderline ment
30 AsstChiefMark : If you're in a turn lane, don't you have to turn? And if you don't, won't you crash into a big sign with an arrow on it?
31 Galapagapop : Hehe well that is exactly what you get for not wearing a seatbelt.
32 Jetjack74 : He said he was unaware he caused an accident. He was questioned and released.
33 Post contains links L-188 : Well it turns out the governors SUV was doing 91 miles per hour at the time of the accident. So, he wasn't wearing his seatbelt. He was fracturing the
34 Mir : Not wearing your seatbelt is downright stupid. Whether Corzine is ok or not doesn't change the fact that he richly deserves to be made an example of
35 Go3Team : IIRC, the fine governor of Pennsylvania demanded his driver to drive in excess of 100 between Harrisburg, and Philly. Caused quite a stink if I remem
36 Post contains images PHLBOS : It did. That's one of the many reasons why Gov. Rendell has been dubbed "Fast Eddie".
37 LTBEWR : The only time a Governor should be driven at speeds well beyond the speed limit is in case of a genuine emergency and a helicopter is impractical. Per
38 UALPHLCS : I agree. This will take some time to shake out though. I anticipate a lot of PSAs from the State Police about seat-belt safety on NJ TV and Radio, al
39 Pope : And the taxpayers of NJ are going to pay a nice chunk of change for all this medical care and damage.
40 UH60FtRucker : Oddly, anyone who's driven the parkway before knows that 80-90mph is not unusual! It's strange how it always seemed the tighter the highway, and the
41 BigOrange : But his schedule wouldn't have been so busy if it wasn't for all the people screaming about what Imus said (but I'm not going to take this thread off
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