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Ten Most Powerful Countries In The World  
User currently offlineTRVYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1370 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7608 times:

http://www.lonympics.co.uk/worldsmostpowerfulcountries.htm

I was surprised to see Pakistan in this list

1 The United States of America,

2 Russian Federation

3 Peoples Republic of China

4 France

5 Britain

6 Japan

7 Republic of India

8 Federal Republic of Germany

9 Republic of Pakistan

10 Republic of Brazil,



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User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1985 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7582 times:

I am kind of surprised that France is before Britain, and also I would have thought Germany to be further up. I wonder what number Canada comes in at.


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User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7577 times:

Quoting TRVYYZ (Thread starter):
I was surprised to see Pakistan in this list

I'm not.

Notice that the only three on the list don't have nuclear weapons.

Seems like the criteria are three things:

Population
Economic Strength
Nuclear Weapons

Every one of those countries has at least two, if not three.

That makes Pakistan a player.


User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7526 times:

Well after Forbes list it´s (political power):

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9007/worldtoptenpowerfulcounvi2.gif


User currently offlineN174UA From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7522 times:

Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 1):
I am kind of surprised that France is before Britain

 checkmark  I don't see why France is even on this list.  scratchchin 

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 2):
I'm not.

Nor am I. Once the President (can't recall his name at the moment) is forced out/assasinated, Pakistan will go downhill very fast, and will create many, many problems.

I would argue that Iran could be on this list as well. Obviously not a nuclear or economic superpower, but as long as that nutjob is still in power, it's a war waiting to happen.


User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3369 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7497 times:

Quoting N174UA (Reply 4):
I don't see why France is even on this list.

France is a big player in Africa. With some exceptions (South Africa, Darfur recently) the media report little about there.



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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7382 times:

Quoting TRVYYZ (Thread starter):
I was surprised to see Pakistan in this list

Why? they have nukes and a fast growing economy.

I'm acutally surprised to not see South Korea on the list.



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User currently offlineTRVYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1370 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7364 times:

Here's another link.

The Koreas are listed here.
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/2004617.asp


By size (number of troops), the top ten nations looks like this;

China
United States
India
Korea, North
Russia
Korea, South
Pakistan
Israel
Turkey
Iran

Top Ten By Combat Power

United States
China
Israel
India
Russia
Korea, South
Korea, North
United Kingdom
Turkey
Pakistan


User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1872 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7355 times:

Quoting N174UA (Reply 4):
Once the President (can't recall his name at the moment) is forced out/assasinated, Pakistan will go downhill very fast, and will create many, many problems.

N174UA change your name in your profile. Now, I know you are GWB.......
I remember your interview, a few years ago, when you said the president was the general... general.....  rotfl 

Teva



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User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7344 times:

TRVYYZ, how on earth did you stumble upon this strange site  Smile

I too am baffled by the choice of Pakistan, despite the explanations of the compiler - second largest Muslim Country etc... I did not think that Pakistan carried much weight in either in International Affairs or in the Muslim World as it is pre-occupied internally with containing fractional politics. While Musharraf takes credit in his book for turning around Pakistan from a 'basket case' (his words) to a serious nation, it will be a while before we see her become a major voice in the world stage. The voices of the 'Muslim' World, for better or for worse, seem to come from fundamentalists in Iran and Saudi Arabia, ignoring the aspirations of many peace-loving Muslims elsewhere.


User currently offlineTRVYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1370 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7307 times:

Quoting Comorin (Reply 9):

I used google  Wink


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7289 times:

I'm surprised to see the United States at the top. I thought it would be China.

User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7276 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 11):
I'm surprised to see the United States at the top. I thought it would be China.

Economically the US is still the biggest. Though China and India are catching up quickly.




Obviously Canada would never be in the top 10 for troops or combat power.
I was a little surprised to see Canada shown as number 6 in political power. I guess being in the G8 carries some weight.
I'm curious as to where Canada sits on the economic rankings.


Kris



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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7270 times:

As said, Pak due to Nuclear Weapons.... Israel is probably 11 or so, but due to lack of population not amongst the top 10, They have a hell lot of power!

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 3):
Well after Forbes list it´s (political power):

I am surprised to see the Scandinavian countries here (they probably exert a lot of influence through development aid)

Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 1):
I am kind of surprised that France is before Britain

Time to get 'em both off the list Big grin  stirthepot 


User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7271 times:

Quoting N174UA (Reply 4):
I don't see why France is even on this list.

They speak French better than anybody else.  yes 


User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7258 times:

LHStarAlliance:

The Netherlands one of the world's top 10 most powerful nations?! Oh come on. I think the Netherlands is an exceptional country in many different ways, but I think Forbes has kinda missed the mark with that one.

QFF


User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3589 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7122 times:

I can't see what us Brits are doing on the list; even Iran kicks sand in our face now.

Royal Navy sailors now consider having their Ipod removed by their captors, and being called Mr Bean as torture !!!!


User currently offlinePaneuropean From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 882 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7114 times:

Quoting QANTASFOREVER (Reply 15):
The Netherlands one of the world's top 10 most powerful nations?! Oh come on. I think the Netherlands is an exceptional country in many different ways, but I think Forbes has kinda missed the mark with that one.

What surprises me more is that the Scandinavian countries are before the Netherlands. I think you shouldn't underestimate the Dutch power. The country has more political influence than you think.


User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7100 times:

Quoting Paneuropean (Reply 17):
The country has more political influence than you think.

Do you mean within the EU or elsewhere? Do you believe your country posesses the geopolitical currency to seriously influence major powers?

Don't get me wrong - The Netherlands is exceptional, truly exceptional. But with a population of 16million and a total area of 41,526 sq km, I'm not sure if it quite fits into the top 10 "Most Powerful".

QFF


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7084 times:

.all those statistics are completely useless...
What really counts -at the bottom line- are quality of life for the citizens of a specific country..
As long as a country allows the use of genetically modified crops,fruit or vegatables,allows the sale of radiated food in supermarkets that favour cancer,countries that knowingly oblige vaccinations for children that are harmful to health,counties that knowingly maintain rotten health-systems in place,call themselves superpowers...
People get fascinated by ideas of power that actually don't bring them any progress but more liabilities .
People get fixed on rankings based on matters that don't increase their quality of life but diminished those qualities .
What the f... does it help underprivileged people in the United States, UK or China that their country is powerful,if they starve,get cancer from food poisening or become irradiated by too many electro-magnetic pollution ?????
The true powerful countries are the ones that get detached from multinational brainwash and actually THINK !



Please respect animals - don't eat them...
User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7079 times:

Obviously all flawed lists because nobody listed Belgium!!!!


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User currently offlinePaneuropean From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 882 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7053 times:

Quoting QANTASFOREVER (Reply 18):
Do you mean within the EU or elsewhere? Do you believe your country posesses the geopolitical currency to seriously influence major powers?

Don't get me wrong - The Netherlands is exceptional, truly exceptional. But with a population of 16million and a total area of 41,526 sq km, I'm not sure if it quite fits into the top 10 "Most Powerful".

I didn't say that. One thing is for sure. The Netherlands has played a very important diplomatic role in history. It's ties with many countries has always positioned the Netherlands in a peaceful nation, more than a aggressive nation in recent history. Building bridges between others. This "diplomatic"role seems to fit the country very well.

In this case the size of a country is not an important issue. Moreover it's population. Canada has less than double it's inhabitants, but in land area it is the largest country in the world.

I haven't said the Netherlands belongs in the top 10, neither am I saying it doesn't, however I would think it's more powerful than Sweden or Norway, with all respect !!

Most interesting is how this top 10 is made. Which criteria are used to form this list.....


User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7036 times:

Quoting QANTASFOREVER (Reply 15):

The Netherlands one of the world's top 10 most powerful nations?! Oh come on. I think the Netherlands is an exceptional country in many different ways, but I think Forbes has kinda missed the mark with that one.

Well the netherlands have much influence in the Caribbean and some Asian countries , I think place 10 is OK .

The top 5 economical powers are :

USA

Japan

Germany

France

UK


Konstantin

And by exports top 3

Germany

USA

France


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7016 times:

I´m surprised that Pakistan and not Saudi-Arabia is listed?
Otherwise I agree with the list.


User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7016 times:

Quoting TRVYYZ (Reply 7):

By size (number of troops), the top ten nations looks like this

Well Germany has also Nuclear weapons but with the Nato I think in Gelsenkirchen , but after the German Story in the WW2 it´s a Taboo to have military power ...

And I think its ok like this if any country attacks Germany , thanks Nato , the US , France , UK etc are behind us ...
and vice versa


25 QANTASforever : You're absolutely right. I agree completely. I certainly agree with you there. As I said, the Netherlands is an exceptional country - but I wouldn't
26 B747-437B : Interesting list, but I think it underestimates the power and influence of some regional superpowers such as Australia, South Africa and Saudi Arabia.
27 Post contains images Mrniji : Actually, Germany DOES have nuclear weapons.. on its territory, and guess who administers them Also, the Bundeswehr is not exactly the weakest army,
28 QANTASforever : By whom? Germany doesn't need a defensive army, it needs specialists forces and equipment to venture into combat zones and lend their expertise to mi
29 Dc9northwest : My personal list is: 1.USA 2.China 3.Russia 4.UK 5.India 6.France 7.Pakistan 8.Japan 9.Germany 10.Israel I think Israel has far more influence than mo
30 LHStarAlliance : Well you can not relay and say anybody will attack us ... There are different tipes of Power there´s Political , Economical and Military Power , I a
31 Post contains images LHStarAlliance : ermm the US but to activate the bomb it needs the OK of the German government and viceversa ...
32 QANTASforever : Alright, let's all put on our aluminium foil hats, turn the radio up loud, turn the shower on and have a "hush hush" conversation about who wants to
33 Post contains images LHStarAlliance : Well the Polish are pretty annoyed about the Germans , Lech and Jarosław Kaczyński could attack Germany ... serious : It´s very very unlik
34 QANTASforever : Yes. It does serve an important purpose domestically and internationally. Germany requires an army, but it does not require one of the world's larges
35 LHStarAlliance : is it one of the world largest ?? Oh man that doesn´t looks good ...
36 Post contains images HAWK21M : I thought it was Aid Thats something India is concerned about.But the Large Democracies would have an Action plan in place to cater to a coup,so that
37 Post contains links TRVYYZ : No question about that, they sure have. For example India is on the list, but its greatest arms supplier is Israel. They have very close and strong b
38 STLGph : I'm not. #7 on the list is India. While others mentioned good reasons for Pakistan being included, a little place called Kashmir has a lot to do with
39 Post contains images VonRichtofen : That's true, look how they have the US wrapped around their finger
40 Post contains images Mrniji : Konstantin, I am somehow with Quantasforever on this one. I don't trust the Bundeswehr, quite frankly. They are discussions, as you are aware, to giv
41 ME AVN FAN : France is more influential in Continental Europe and in Africa, and in a way also in the Arab World, and by having a separate line, also stands for s
42 LHStarAlliance : I´ve heard about the last cases of racism and many other scandals ... what the Government has to do is to invest in better learning methods so soldi
43 Beaucaire : Britain has no influence at all in world-politics,since the UK endorse anything that comes from the white house... France has persistently advocated a
44 STLGph : as mentioned earlier, they could severely mess with Kashmir off setting a big situation messing with two huge proud nations and two huge proud religi
45 Pelican : No. Just look at TRVYYZ 's (reply 7) list. I have to agree. Times change. Indeed. Who knows? The Russians maybe? Sure not at the moment but who knows
46 Post contains links Mrniji : Exactly, I would not trust them: Following scenario was trained: A van with blacks in the Bronx, the soldiers were supposed to shoot on the blacks, w
47 QANTASforever : Ah yes, those reds are back under the bed and are waiting for you to let your guard down so that they can goose-step into Berlin for some....reason.
48 Pelican : I just mentioned the Russians because they have the potential to become a serious threat (just look what happened in Moscow and St. Petersburg at the
49 ME AVN FAN : - that may change again, as most predecessors of Tony Blair kept a more independent line in international politics than he does. Japan and Germany si
50 PPVRA : Why is it a stupid definiton? BTW, we are not the only ones planting GMOs. China, India, etc. also have. You know, I used to think much like you do s
51 DeltaDC9 : Germany should be further up IMO. Yes, and that is good for France or else they might appear a tad bit hypocritical. Why on EARTH would you think tha
52 LHStarAlliance : On military power or political ? if it´s political impossible as just the US are before Germany and they are definitely more powerful than Germany k
53 Post contains links and images LHStarAlliance : I think this is the most credible stat as Forbes is a well recognized "organization" and it looks pretty logical : Maybe strange that the Netherlands
54 Post contains links Beaucaire : I would suggest you read the article in"The Guaridan" about the frenzy on Bio-Fuel and the wrong assessments tied to the term. The amount of energy i
55 TRVYYZ : Sweden and Norway are more powerful than Russia, really?
56 Post contains images LHStarAlliance : Well that´s really a bit strange , Russia is by far more powerful , this stat is from 2004 so I think Russia came up in this last years ... I think
57 Mrniji : True, only partly though. It depends what kind of Biomass you use, and how you combust it for energy generation. For instance: Biomass as a byproduct
58 DeltaDC9 : I was referring to the original list. Germany may not have nukes, but they have a very good friend in the US that does and would not heitate to use o
59 Post contains images Klaus : There can't be any question, really. What's the country which was capable of posing an immediate, mortal threat to the presumable #1? What's the count
60 TRVYYZ : Actually the link in that post does mention that.
61 LTU932 : If we do have nukes, then they cannot be German built or operated. They have to be either American or French nukes. Germany officially renounced any
62 Post contains links LHStarAlliance : Well I think you´re right , the ties between Germany and America are pretty strong , just remember how much the US invested with the Marshal plan in
63 Post contains images DeltaDC9 : Rules of engagement, not capability, prevent us from doing many things that in the past were easy. It is to the benefit of many nations that Germany
64 SK A340 : I am too surprised to see both Sweden and Norway on that list, especially when it's about political power. The Scandinavian (and Nordic) countries ha
65 Post contains images Klaus : That'll teach them to love you...! The European Union and NATO would make that a tiny little bit impractical. Not that there was any way in the short
66 DeltaDC9 : Only against a certain subset of threats. At some point, I am affraid, only the defensive capability of the US will stand in the way. Lets just hope
67 Post contains images Klaus : Let's hope that indeed. Your conclusion is as strange as your recollection incomplete... the alien's motivation was clearly explained as ravaging the
68 DeltaDC9 : I dont think it was as clear as you remember. That was a theory stated by a character, Jeff GoldDuff's' I think, but all the aliens themselves said w
69 Klaus : No, within the "logic" of the movie it was quite unambiguous. Bill Pullman's president had been in telepathic contact with the alien and "saw" their
70 Post contains links PPVRA : Claiming that the Amazon will become a huge sugar cane plantation is plain ignorance of the facts. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2007/03/
71 Post contains links and images Fumanchewd : Hmm. So what are the starving supposed to eat? I would love to see some of the more "enlightened" countries produce organic food to ship out to starv
72 Beaucaire : There is no paradox in this statement,since among other countries that start re-thinking their approach to farming -because the bottom line is feedin
73 HAWK21M : Boomin Economy & a huge Young Population in India makes a Difference. regds MEL
74 Post contains images Andreas : Yes and let's not forget their impressive fleet of battle caravans!! Nuclear weapons in gelsenkirchen good Lord...that's why Schlacke.....
75 Mrniji : So true... the problem: TRIPS, MNCs, international agreements, and the quest to change the world with agricultural engineering. The funny thing is: t
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