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The 2010 World Cup Needs To Arrive Quick!  
User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4316 posts, RR: 11
Posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2576 times:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1r2zp_gol-de-messi-al-getafe-180407

Messi, Aguero, Palacios, and some other players in the Argentine league should be hitting their stride then.

That with a veteran defense... The only risk is that they all peak before mid 2010.


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

It's a universal problem, not just Argentina is affected. Our team has had its peak last year and by the end of Euro 2008, we need to have a few replacements for the few veterans we have, like Bernd Schneider, Oliver Neuville and Jens Lehmann. The goalie question will be the most critical because we still don't have replacements that can fill the void Lehmann will leave after he retires. A few other players, who are currently in their prime, like Ballack and Miroslav Klose, will be hitting their 30s by the Euro and as we've shown in the World Cup, offensive play, and lots of young players have given us a great performance.

And in the case of Argentina, they seem to change their team very often, because I hardly know who most players are when a new World Cup comes (I didn't even hear of people such as Messi, Tévez, Ayala, Sorín and Abbondanzieri before the World Cup started). So here's a slightly OT question for all Argentinian A.nutters: what do you think will be the odds for Argentina in the future, most of all with coach Alfio Basile, who replaced Peckerman. They don't seem to have had a good start, especially in the match against Brazil in England. I hope Argentina will get stronger, because in the case Germany has to play against them in South Africa, we want to play an Argentina as aggressive and determined as they were especially during Mexico 86 and Italy 90.  Wink

That being said, I fully agree with the thread title: The 2010 World Cup does need to come quickly, because I can't hardly wait for it.  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2552 times:

No not yet!! The glorious NZ team has just slipped to 132nd spot, according to the FIFA website. Which means that is the WC was held today, we would be comfortable if we ended up facing Gambia, but God help us if we were unlucky enough to be drawn against those might men from Lichtenstein!!!

User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 1):
The goalie question will be the most critical because we still don't have replacements that can fill the void Lehmann will leave after he retires. A few other players, who are currently in their prime, like Ballack and Miroslav Klose, will be hitting their 30s by the Euro and as we've shown in the World Cup, offensive play, and lots of young players have given us a great performance.

Excuse me??? Goalie a problem??? Did you by any chance hear the names of Robert Enke, Timo Hildebrand, Rafael Schäfer, Manuel Neuer, Tim Wiese, Roman Weidenfeller? That's more good keepers than England will have in about 200 years..Goalie is definitiely NOT our problem!

Pal, we are OVERSTAFFED with great keepers!!



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User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4316 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2464 times:

Ok, guys, but no one commented on the real reason of the topic...

Geez, what's wrong with A.netters?? Usually so opinionated and they have nothing to say about Messi.  conehead 



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

Quoting Derico (Reply 4):
Usually so opinionated and they have nothing to say about Messi.

He's brilliant. Thus, he must be hacked down at the earliest opportunity.  Wink



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User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4763 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

Quoting Derico (Reply 4):
Geez, what's wrong with A.netters?? Usually so opinionated and they have nothing to say about Messi.

My sincere opinion? He's cute.  tongue 



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 3):
Pal, we are OVERSTAFFED with great keepers!!

True, but we still have NOT found a new number 1. I know we have excellent goalies like Weidenfeller, Enke, Schäfer, Neuer and Wiese, but IMO none of them have so far proven themselves in the team. The time after Euro 08 will be critical, because we might have to go back to the Rotationsprinzip, rotating goalies at least in Friendly matches.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2449 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 3):
That's more good keepers than England will have in about 200 years..

I don't where you get this idea that England has no keepers from. The only dodgy one we've had in recent times has been David James. Seaman was fine, he just got too old - rather like Oliver Kahn.



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User currently offlineYooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2450 times:

Quoting Derico (Thread starter):
The 2010 World Cup Needs To Arrive Quick!

Already?
This thread is locked.

Signed,
KROC



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 8):
The only dodgy one we've had in recent times has been David James.

Don't you mean David Robinson and how he allowed a harmless backpass to become a Neville own goal in that qualifier match against Croatia?  stirthepot 


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2432 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 10):
Don't you mean David Robinson and how he allowed a harmless backpass to become a Neville own goal in that qualifier match against Croatia?

Paul Robinson.

Poor lad. Wasn't much he could do about that one, was there? I've often thought that back passes in the direction of the goal are an accident waiting to happen. But trust me, even I laughed at that one.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 11):
Paul Robinson.

I stand corrected.

Quoting Banco (Reply 11):
Wasn't much he could do about that one, was there?

Probably not, except perhaps take the ball into his hand, which would have been a rule violation, unless Neville had headed it towards Robinson (then the backpass rule wouldn't apply).

Quoting Banco (Reply 11):
I've often thought that back passes in the direction of the goal are an accident waiting to happen.

Only since the backpass rule was introduced, banning goalies to take a backpass into his hands in order to prevent game delays.

Quoting Banco (Reply 11):
even I laughed at that one

It was just ridiculous. Regardless of whether the ball suddenly bounced on the grass or not, this shouldn't have happened, but it's still funny as hell. Big grin


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2426 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 12):
Only since the backpass rule was introduced, banning goalies to take a backpass into his hands in order to prevent game delays.

Mate, I'm old enough to have played as the goalkeeper under the old rules. That change was a bloody good reason to stop as far as I was concerned.  Wink



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 8):
I don't where you get this idea that England has no keepers from.

Don't know, seems to have slipped my mind... Wink

The only dodgy one...Calamity James...erm...if you say so



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

Quoting Derico (Reply 4):
Ok, guys, but no one commented on the real reason of the topic...

What was it again...o yeah, next WC...ah I see you're in desperate need of another a$$-kicking like in Berlin last year.

But why can't you wait another 3 years. It's not that long really....



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User currently offlineJush From Germany, joined Apr 2005, 1636 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

Enke should be number but he's already quite old...
But he's still better than Wiese and Hildebrand. They can catch up and fight for the job as goalie after Enke quits.

Regds
jush



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

Quoting Jush (Reply 16):
Enke should be number but he's already quite old...

Sorry??? Enke is 29...do you recall the age of Lehmann when they declared him Number one...that's barely 1 year ago, and he is what...37, 38 now? Enke does have at least 2 WCs and one EC to play in his prime age as a keeper.

And btw, Hilde is 27, just 2 years younger, and Wiese will never make his way into our national side...reasons are well-known, Loew knows what kind of a keeper he needs, and Wiese is not one of them, regardless of the rantings and ravings of BILD.



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User currently offlineAussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1757 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2352 times:
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Quoting Banco (Reply 11):
Paul Robinson.

Poor lad. Wasn't much he could do about that one, was there? I've often thought that back passes in the direction of the goal are an accident waiting to happen. But trust me, even I laughed at that one.

What else do you expect from a Spurs player.....Quite amusing moment but their were rumours that Robinson was distracted by the advertising board alongside the pitch advertising "Borat" at the time of the attempted kick.


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2334 times:
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Messi's goal against Getafe was of the highest order, technically speaking it was unbelievable, it reminded me of Maradona's mazy dribble against England all those years ago. Only South American players can dribble like that. There are two players in world football right now who can become as good as Pele or Maradona, they are Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo.


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User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4316 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2308 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 15):
What was it again...o yeah, next WC...ah I see you're in desperate need of another a$$-kicking like in Berlin last year.

But why can't you wait another 3 years. It's not that long really....

This commentary is so like out of topic... but I'll indulgue you.

How many people on this planet or in this site consider a 1-1 tie by Argentina playing in Berlin, Germany, against..err... Germany, an a__ -kicking??

Besides that, did Germany win their world cup?? But Glad to hear your "arse-kicking 1-1 tie" against Argentina makes up for being eliminated about 4 days later.



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User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

Quoting Derico (Thread starter):
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1r2zp_gol-de-messi-al-getafe-180407

Messi, Aguero, Palacios, and some other players in the Argentine league should be hitting their stride then.

That with a veteran defense... The only risk is that they all peak before mid 2010.

QUUUUEEE GOLLAAAZOOOO! to be honest that goal deserves to be qualified as amazing as Maradona's goal in 1986 against England.... Messi is just incredible. too bad he plays for Barça and not for Real Madrid Big grin.

I just can't wait for that day Argentina wins a world cup again !!!!!!!!

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User currently offlineAviationMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

Quoting Derico (Reply 20):
How many people on this planet or in this site consider a 1-1 tie by Argentina playing in Berlin, Germany, against..err... Germany, an a__ -kicking??

Going out on penalty kicks is always an a-kicking... I should know, just look at my team's performance at the World Cup against the Ukraine.

Besides, some on the Argentinian team were surely acting as if they had just received an a-kicking after the game ended  Wink


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2253 times:

Quoting Derico (Reply 20):
How many people on this planet or in this site consider a 1-1 tie by Argentina playing in Berlin, Germany, against..err... Germany, an a__ -kicking??

In all fairness, any Germany vs Argentina game is an ass-kicking for both parties involved.  Wink

That being said, Germany is always dangerous in Penalty Shootouts. After having gone through the embarassment of Euro 76 (all thanks to that sad excuse for a player named Uli Hoeneß kicking the ball to the crowd), we've been far too successful in Penalty Shootouts. Even England envys us for that.  Wink


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4316 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2240 times:

Quoting AviationMaster (Reply 22):
Going out on penalty kicks is always an a-kicking... I should know, just look at my team's performance at the World Cup against the Ukraine.

Penalties are the luck of the draw (unless your goalkeeper keeps a cheatsheet on his socks).

The actualy 120 minute game, which I think counts more than some 10 penalty kicks, was nothing but a stalemate at best (and actually, Argentina had by far more ball posession throughout the game, they just didn't kill Germany in a few counterstrikes when the game was 1-0).



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25 Post contains images Aviationmaster : I do not think so. E.g. the way the Swiss team f**k up the penalty kicking against the Ukraine was not bad luck, they simply just sucked and did not
26 Post contains images Derico : You are saying that (and I didn't say neither side overran the other), but then you come back and say Germany overran Argentina. Sorry I just didn't
27 Post contains images AviationMaster : Neither did I because if you reread my post, I never wrote that Germany overran Argentina. You wrote that Argentina had more ball possession, and I s
28 Post contains images Andreas : WOHOHOOOOO....our sorest a.net loser at it full blast...yes I remember your rantings and ravings last year...didn't YOU tell the world that the fistf
29 N1120A : You guys have the answer, he just happens to play for Schalke.
30 Post contains images Andreas : Or for Hanover, or for Stuttgart this season, or for Stuttgart next season, or for Bremen (don't think so) or for Dortmund...no, not really a problem
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