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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1483 times:

Todays group offended by members of the media is:

Quote:
It's time for a national dialogue on the "w-word." I'll give you a hint: It's an offensive term that is meant to imply that all Mexican-Americans arrived in the United States by swimming across a river -- something that comes across as doubly offensive to immigrants who came to the country legally or those whose families have been here for generations.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/24/navarrette/index.html

Wait... what?

I'm sorry, did the people who came to my nation illegally, stayed here illegally and sucked like leaches off my tax supported healthcare and education systems claim that they were offended by something someone called them?

I'm sorry, you don't get to play this game.

This game is for the people who play by the rules.

Not yours.

Let's talk offensive...



BTW: "our" not "are"

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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1470 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Thread starter):
"w-word."

I used to park next to a Mercedes at my office in B.H. with that word for its license plate. I always wondered how that got by the DMV censors, but I thought it was grand someone would actually do that and fling their nose, if not their Mercedes, at society.



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User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1282 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1448 times:

Is this guy for real? In the very article he denounces repeating the "w-word", he repeats it three times!


You know the gear is up and locked when it takes full throttle to taxi to the terminal.
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1448 times:

This Ruben Navarrette guy is such an idiot.
He states; "Bill O'Reilly once referred to Mexicans as wetbacks."

Then states; Here's a tip for liberals...

O'Reilly isn't a liberal and Frank Rich was simply pointing out one of the many foolish remarks by O'Reilly.



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

What is the w-word for us un-informed out of towner's?

User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1444 times:

Wet-Back is racially insensitive?

Well shit, have them all get together and sign a petition with their A) legal residence and B) voter's registration number, then we'll talk about it. If they don't have B), give their A) to DHS-Immigration.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 4):
What is the w-word for us un-informed out of towner's?



Quoting Bill O'Reilly (Reply 3):
wetback


Edit: Clarification  

[Edited 2007-04-24 16:59:24]


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

AeroWesty:
Please indicate that was Bill O'Reilly's quote and not mine.  Smile



MDorBust:
La Raza had nothing to do with the story so why is there a poster of theres in this thread?
In fact, I get the feeling that poster is fake and was 'doctored' to make a cynical joke.



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User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5015 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Thread starter):
I'm sorry, did the people who came to my nation illegally, stayed here illegally and sucked like leaches off my tax supported healthcare and education systems claim that they were offended by something someone called them?

Um, no, it's the ones who (quoting from your link):

Quoting MDorBust (Thread starter):
came to the country legally or those whose families have been here for generations.



Quoting MDorBust (Thread starter):
This game is for the people who play by the rules.

You mean, like:

Quoting MDorBust (Thread starter):
immigrants who came to the country legally or those whose families have been here for generations.

?

Because it seems to me THEY are the ones complaining.


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
La Raza had nothing to do with the story so why is there a poster of theres in this thread?

To demonstrate where the true offense should be with regards to illegal aliens and groups promoting their "rights".

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
In fact, I get the feeling that poster is fake and was 'doctored' to make a cynical joke.

It's almost identical to ones that littered Dallas after the illegal alien orgy here last year.

I have no doubts about it's authenticity.

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 8):
Because it seems to me THEY are the ones complaining.

Why would legal immigrants complain about the term "wetback"? The term refers to an act, specifically of being an illegal immigrant. It has nothing to do with legal immigrants. The term refers to illegal immigrants, not to Hispanics.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 9):
The term refers to an act, specifically of being an illegal immigrant.

While it has ethnic connotations, obviously, I've always taken it as akin to calling me a "sodomite" rather than the six-letter f-word. It just doesn't have the same impact--even though I could really care less what you call me beyond late for dinner.



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User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1374 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 9):
Why would legal immigrants complain about the term "wetback"? The term refers to an act, specifically of being an illegal immigrant. It has nothing to do with legal immigrants. The term refers to illegal immigrants, not to Hispanics.

I'd bet money that there are plenty of people out there who would call Latinos "wetbacks" without checking first if they were legal or not. It's the same thing as if someone were to refer to Catholic priests in general as pedophiles (and there are some people who have done so). The priests would take it as an insult, even though for a few amongst them the label may be accurate.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1364 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 9):
To demonstrate where the true offense should be with regards to illegal aliens and groups promoting their "rights".

Most, if not all La Raza members are legal citizens.
The term 'wetback' is considered offensive to legal and illegal citizens. I also find the term very offensive and derogatory and I don't even have a drop of Chicano blood.
Why do you feel a need to insult people?



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 11):
I'd bet money that there are plenty of people out there who would call Latinos "wetbacks" without checking first if they were legal or not.

 checkmark 



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User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5015 posts, RR: 44
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 9):
Why would legal immigrants complain about the term "wetback"?

Because it is often used as a racial slur towards all Mexicans, not only those who came to the U.S. illegally?


User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1282 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1336 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):
The term 'wetback' is considered offensive to legal and illegal citizens. I also find the term very offensive and derogatory and I don't even have a drop of Chicano blood.

That's too bad. Proves that a word is only offensive if you choose it to be so.



You know the gear is up and locked when it takes full throttle to taxi to the terminal.
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 15):
Proves that a word is only offensive if you choose it to be so.

....or have an understanding of what the word means.



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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 11):
I'd bet money that there are plenty of people out there who would call Latinos "wetbacks" without checking first if they were legal or not.

I'm sure there are also. That's why we have words like "ignorant","stupid", and "racist".

Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):
Most, if not all La Raza members are legal citizens.

You are going to source this claim right?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):
Why do you feel a need to insult people?

Instead I should treat people who don't respect my laws and national soverignty with dignity and respect? I don't think so. There are two views on respect. One that is all people should be given respect until the do something to lose it. The other is that people should earn your respect. This particular group has failed both approaches.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1276 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 17):
One that is all people should be given respect until the do something to lose it. The other is that people should earn your respect. This particular group has failed both approaches.

Honest question, would you be offended if someone--whose respect you haven't earned yet, and who knows nothing about you at all other than you're heterosexual--refers to you with the seven-letter "b-word"? I'm not attempting to change the subject, just see where you sit when it comes to yourself.



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1254 times:

We on A.net are offended by conservative whinos who bitch and moan about how they're being discriminated against by all those nasty, evil minorities, gays, women, etc etc etc etc etc, who just won't allow them to use the N-word, the F-word, the h-word.

Oh Lord, have mercy upon those poor, battered, discriminated overweight Limbaugh worshippers who cannot insult in peace. May you rescue them from the hell they have to endure as they are beaten and lashed and flayed just to exercise their right to spew hatred in your name.


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 18):
...the seven-letter "b-word"?

If you don't think you can type it without incurring the wrath of a Mod, IM it too me. I can't think of an offensive seven letter B-word. Don't worry, I won't S12 you.

Wait....

Do you mean "breeder"?

Lol, go ahead. No offense taken, it's a biological truth. Anyone can call me that.

Westy, I only get offended when people who know better, and I care about their opinion, say things that are false. If people who don't know a thing about me, or I don't care if they DIAF, want to run their mouth off and look stupid, that's their problem. See Jaysits post for referance. Could care less, but it would take effort.

The rules are different for racial slurs though. Those don't ever fly.

[Edited 2007-04-24 18:59:02]

User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1217 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 12):
Why do you feel a need to insult people?

To feel better about himself. The same thing was evident in a thread where he felt the need to attack and insult Dr. Phil (and me) instead of simply explaining why he felt differently. If all they can do is resort to insults, they have far larger problems than whoever is the cause of their pain. Why anyone would want to use these words in the first place is beyond me. What would any rational person gain from using these words? Nothing. If a confident person had a problem with something like immigration, they would discuss the issue and try to come up with solution - NOT sit on a computer and call people names.

But for those with low self-esteem, I guess causing others pain by using these words is worth it for a few minutes of feeling that 'power' - even to the point where they will look for an excuse to use these insults, e.g.

Quoting MDorBust (Thread starter):
This game is for the people who play by the rules.

 Sad

Quoting MDorBust (Thread starter):
BTW: "our" not "are"



Quoting MDorBust (Thread starter):
leaches

BTW: "leeches" not "leaches"


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1208 times:

Quoting WellHung (Reply 21):
To feel better about himself. The same thing was evident in a thread where he felt the need to attack and insult Dr. Phil (and me) instead of simply explaining why he felt differently. If all they can do is resort to insults, they have far larger problems than whoever is the cause of their pain. Why anyone would want to use these words in the first place is beyond me. What would any rational person gain from using these words? Nothing. If a confident person had a problem with something like immigration, they would discuss the issue and try to come up with solution - NOT sit on a computer and call people names.

But for those with low self-esteem, I guess causing others pain by using these words is worth it for a few minutes of feeling that 'power' - even to the point where they will look for an excuse to use these insults, e.g.

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Amen!




This a rare moment in which I am agreeing with WellHung.  Wow!

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 19):
We on A.net are offended by conservative whinos who bitch and moan about how they're being discriminated against by all those nasty, evil minorities, gays, women, etc etc etc etc etc, who just won't allow them to use the N-word, the F-word, the h-word.

Oh Lord, have mercy upon those poor, battered, discriminated overweight Limbaugh worshippers who cannot insult in peace. May you rescue them from the hell they have to endure as they are beaten and lashed and flayed just to exercise their right to spew hatred in your name.

 checkmark 



Perhaps it's a good thing the Internet is around so they can have an avenue to vent about there anger and intolerance. That keeps them inside the house and out of the public.  Smile



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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1202 times:

Quoting WellHung (Reply 21):
BTW: "leeches" not "leaches"

Touche

Remind me not to trust the spell checker to differentiate anymore.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
This a rare moment in which I am agreeing with WellHung.

Ask yourself Fly, do you really agree with a tirade meant to demean people who demean people?


User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1202 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
La Raza had nothing to do with the story so why is there a poster of theres in this thread?
In fact, I get the feeling that poster is fake and was 'doctored' to make a cynical joke.

Really? Guess you haven't been reading up on Aztlan, La Raza, and MEChA.

Quote:
In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal "gringo" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlán from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny.

We are free and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our hearts. Aztlán belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent.

http://studentorgs.utexas.edu/mecha/archive/plan.html


25 TedTAce : I didn't read the above replies. Sorry. Latins (even from Spain) will always get that stamp from the ignorant, just like the ignorant use the N word.
26 767Lover : To be honest, I don't really understand the point of all these "don't say the X word" mores -- because if people have prejudice in their heart and min
27 Jaysit : The issue is this: What if you were put in a room with three people of Mexican ancestry, one who is a 10th generation American national, another who i
28 Halls120 : If your hypothetical Mexican Minister of petroleum accurately represented a senior Mexican government official, he or she would likely look more angl
29 LASOctoberB6 : i only began to hear of the word after 2003 i think......b4 that, i had no idea what it was or that it even existed for that matter. not really neces
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