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Gere Faces Indian Arrest Warrant  
User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

An Indian court has issued an arrest warrant for Hollywood actor Richard Gere after he kissed Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty in public.

Full story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6596163.stm

WTF?! First it was Liz Hurley, and now its Richard Gere. Looks like the Indian courts dont have anything better to do. And what the hell is so wrong with kissing in public? Geez..time to get into the 21st Century, India.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Thanks to the media hyping this Unimportant event giving those 1% minority a issue to get publicity on. Smile

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12627 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2001 times:
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Quoting Springbok747 (Thread starter):
WTF?! First it was Liz Hurley, and now its Richard Gere. Looks like the Indian courts dont have anything better to do. And what the hell is so wrong with kissing in public? Geez..time to get into the 21st Century, India.

Public displays of affection are frowned upon in many cultures.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1999 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 2):
Public displays of affection are frowned upon in many cultures.

Hence why they should move with the times and stop being stuck in the 15th century...



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12627 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1994 times:
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Quoting Gkirk (Reply 3):
Hence why they should move with the times and stop being stuck in the 15th century...

There's nothing like embracing cultural diversity, and that's nothing like embracing cultural diversity.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4):
There's nothing like embracing cultural diversity, and that's nothing like embracing cultural diversity.

I'm all for cultural diversity, but there's a difference between cultural diversity and living in the past.
But, hey ho, if that's the way they want to do things over there, then so be it.



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1986 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 5):
I'm all for cultural diversity, but there's a difference between cultural diversity and living in the past.
But, hey ho, if that's the way they want to do things over there, then so be it.

India is a democracy, Kirkie. We aren't talking about some backward dictatorship here.

Apparently in the US he's facing further disappointment because Shilpa is a woman....  Wink



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 6):
Apparently in the US he's facing further disappointment because Shilpa is a woman.... Wink

 Wow!



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 6):
India is a democracy, Kirkie.

So is Iran, in theory, and they still make women wear binbags and stone blasphemers. So was ancient Athens, but they still owned slaves. Democracy is the first sign of enlightenment, not the last.


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1954 times:

He should be arrested for Pretty Woman if you ask me.

One of the benefits of having a male partner now - i don't have to sit through dross like that any more  Wink



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User currently offlineTRVYYZ From Canada, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 1373 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1946 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 1):
Thanks to the media hyping this Unimportant event giving those 1% minority a issue to get publicity on

Do you agree with the court's decision to issue a warrant for Gere? Also do you think that Liz Hurley should be put in jail?


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 9):
One of the benefits of having a male partner now

 vomit 



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 9):
One of the benefits of having a male partner now -

I'm sure Gere is thinking the same thing. Big grin



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1902 times:

Quoting TRVYYZ (Reply 10):
Do you agree with the court's decision to issue a warrant for Gere

Not at all.
I feel its a matter which is getting unneeded Importance.
Lets move on.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineTRVYYZ From Canada, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 1373 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
Not at all.
I feel its a matter which is getting unneeded Importance.

Why doesn't the court feel the same way?


User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4900 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1882 times:

Quoting TRVYYZ (Reply 14):
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
Not at all.
I feel its a matter which is getting unneeded Importance.

Why doesn't the court feel the same way?

The magistrate thought the act 'highly erotic' and issued the offbeat warrant. It is very likely that a High Court will quash this absurd order - it wasn't even in the aforesaid magistrates' jurisdiction.

There is no need to exhibit any cultural sensitivity in this matter. Every country has its reactionary elements and tolerance merely encourages these people to be stuck in the 15th century. Gkirk, Scrbiml, this would be like tolerating stocks and assizes in the UK. These people go around policing young couples holding hands and beating them up with sticks, and don't deserve any sensitivity.


User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3068 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 11):
Quoting Cornish (Reply 9):One of the benefits of having a male partner now
   vomit 

Aw, c'mon Gkirk...except for the sex bit, it's just like getting to hang around with your best mate all the time!  Wink



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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1869 times:

Quoting Springbok747 (Thread starter):
Looks like the Indian courts dont have anything better to do.

The worst is: they have better things to do, and want to distract from that! Lower courts are overworked and often corrupt, while only the High Courts and Supreme Court of India can be called a real court for the people, a watchdog of the constitution and of the exec. & leg.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 9):
He should be arrested for Pretty Woman if you ask me.

 bigthumbsup  - international order

Quoting TRVYYZ (Reply 10):
Do you agree with the court's decision to issue a warrant for Gere?

No, never. Although I am the first to sign anything regarding cultural sensitivity, this is an "unindian" act of chicanery. If you look at the entire history of India, you will realize that love and sex and homosexuality was an integral part of the open culture (see some pics below I took in Khajarao). It is just a bunch of idiots, of religious hardliners, who interpret it as nonwestern in order to maintain and extend their power and suppress the people! A kiss on the chick and more can be observed anywhere in DEL, BOM, BLR etc., it is just a good way to be populist. Stupid judge

I read an article about that in the Indian media, who make out a mockery of the court, and they are right! Even conservative judges, lawyers, criticize this...




Here the pics:

http://photos.subin.org/india2001/India2001%20151.jpg

http://photos.subin.org/india2001/India2001%20143.jpg

http://photos.subin.org/india2001/India2001%20142.jpg

Can history in temples lie?

WTF? And he is prosecuted for kissing on the chick??? Some people need to open their eyes, face reality and get out of the public domain with their dogmatic approach to society!!!


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4125 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 8):
So is Iran, in theory, and they still make women wear binbags and stone blasphemers. So was ancient Athens, but they still owned slaves. Democracy is the first sign of enlightenment, not the last.

Yeah but there's no Indian laws that say public displays of affection are illegal (even though it is culturally frowned upon). This is nothing more than attention whoring by some stupid judge and will probably be thrown out by a higher court.

Either way it does make Indians look like complete prudes (which they are to some extent), but that is a different matter.



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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 18):

Yeah but there's no Indian laws that say public displays of affection are illegal

Not true:

Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code:

Whoever voluntarily has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman or animal, shall be punished with imprisonment for life, or with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to 10 years and shall also be liable to fine.
Explanation: Penetration is sufficient to constitute the carnal intercourse necessary to the offence described in this section.


Of course, it speaks of carnal intercourse. However, if queer people display their affection, police action starts in practice

This is of course not relevant to Gere's case. Delhi used to have a law banning public kissing, passed by the useless right wing BJP government of DEL that time,

[Edited 2007-04-27 17:32:09]

User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1832 times:

Quoting TSS (Reply 16):
Aw, c'mon Gkirk...except for the sex bit, it's just like getting to hang around with your best mate all the time! Wink

Apparently this is Cornish's partner:

 vomit 



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 18):
Either way it does make Indians look like complete prudes (which they are to some extent), but that is a different matter.

In the early 90s, when I walked around Delhi with my wife (who is Indian), people would come up and call her a whore. Things have much improved over the past decade, but their prejudices are not far below the surface.


User currently offlineTRVYYZ From Canada, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 1373 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 21):
In the early 90s, when I walked around Delhi with my wife (who is Indian), people would come up and call her a whore.

That's really horrible. How do you feel about the other Indian cities? I bet all are not as bad, except for one of those curious looks. I don't think things are so bad in cities of Kerala or even Bombay etc.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

Quoting TRVYYZ (Reply 22):
That's really horrible. How do you feel about the other Indian cities?

Rajistan was fine - particularly the tourist spots, where people are used to seeing foreigners accompanied by Indians, I suppose. Same with Agra. I've travelled throughout central and southern India as well, but that was without my wife.


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4125 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1745 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 21):
In the early 90s, when I walked around Delhi with my wife (who is Indian), people would come up and call her a whore. Things have much improved over the past decade, but their prejudices are not far below the surface.

That sucks but I think I know what you mean.

Many of us 1st generation Indians who were born and raised in the US (like myself) have had to deal with the old fashioned values of our parents, to that of American values regarding the opposite sex. From what I hear things have been changing a lot in India, and sometimes a little too fast because I hear a lot of stories about some rich skanks that try to emulate what they see on Western TV. So part of the problem is a clash of the the older generation hanging onto its traditions very strongly vs. the confused youth that are trying a little too hard to be "Westernized" rather than trying to find a balance. My guess is that it somehow plays out in stupid cases like these.

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 19):
Not true:

Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code:

Whoever voluntarily has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man

Sounds to me almost like some arcane sodomy laws in some US States! Anyway this makes no mention of kissing in public, which I thought is still legal but just frowned upon.



"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
25 Mrniji : you are absolutely right. It was once upon a time banned in DEL, but there is, afaik no law against.. all the "new-economy teens and twens" kiss and
26 Post contains links and images TRVYYZ : It is actually section 294 of IPC 294. Obscene acts and songs Whoever, to the annoyance of others-- (a) does any obscene act in any public place, or
27 Mdsh00 : Yeah I often get confused with what is 1st or 2nd generation. Then again, my parents have lived longer in the US than in India. I'm also pretty lucky
28 Post contains images Mrniji : We, those who were born abroad are always called 2nd generations! We share the same destiny. Good to know about your parents, mine are, as said, the
29 Post contains images Springbok747 : You're right, especially in the bigger cities with their new shopping malls. Indians still seem to have a problem with defining what is "obscene" and
30 Post contains links Jaysit : My favorite Indian journalist, Tavleen Singh, sums it up perfectly in this article (Incidentally, she also exposes the rot, hypocrisy and incompetence
31 Nimish : I don't think anyone I know of agrees (even remotely) with the court's decision. In fact right from the edits in papers, to statements from other lea
32 TRVYYZ : But the warrant is still out there? I think the whole thing is a joke and I hear it even here on the radio everyday. That was one nice article by Tav
33 LH477 : The problem with these right-wing idiots in India is that they get press. It is best just to ignore them. However it is also important to note with al
34 Post contains images HAWK21M : With so many people watching Tv & reading Newspapers.As soon as the Media ignores it.It gets forgotten regds MEL
35 Post contains links TRVYYZ : Why are you shooting the messenger? Now it is Ghaziabad. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/C...lpa_Shetty/articleshow/1990290.cms[Edited 2007-05-02
36 Post contains images HAWK21M : You ever watch the majority of Tv breaking news. regds MEL
37 Post contains links Jaysit : Well, just one when you thought that Hindu religious fundamentalists were pushing the envelope of sanity, here come the Iranian fundies, who once agai
38 TRVYYZ : That looks like a tough competition. Seems like, for these guys, the thought process mainly originate from the scrotal area.
39 Nimish : News from today is that the judge in question has been transferred (a random transfer is generally a form of punishment) to another court in Rajasthan
40 Post contains images Cfalk : LOL What Iran needs is a humongous shipment of good porn.
41 Post contains images HAWK21M : Transferred is a polite word for forced regds MEL
42 Post contains links Jaysit : Yes, indeed. The Judge has been transferred. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472297/ He's been transferred from Jaipur to some Godforsaken district in t
43 Post contains images HAWK21M : Wonder what the Judge is thinking right now regds MEL
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