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Would You Buy This New Buick Riviera?  
User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1798 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

I wonder why is it that GM can come up with good designs and very good products arround the world, and then forget to bring them to the worlds biggest automotive market the US.



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http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...0420/FREE/70420001/1024/LATESTNEWS


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User currently offlineDuff44 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1723 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

Quoting Marcus (Thread starter):
I wonder why is it that GM can come up with good designs and very good products arround the world, and then forget to bring them to the worlds biggest automotive market the US.

You can say that about pretty much every automaker, not just GM...

As for the Riviera, 4 things:

1) What does it have for a motor?
2) What does the back look like?
3) Is it huge or is it fairly small? (I like smaller better... less weight)
4) They need to plug some of the holes in the front fascia... it's too open. I think just the ones under the headlights would do the trick.



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User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3337 times:

DL's new livery looks better than that.

User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

It's a concept car, not planed for production neither here nor in China ...

Will the Riviera ever see the light of day? Welburn would only say we’ll see elements of the car in future Buicks.



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User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3307 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
It's a concept car, not planed for production neither here nor in China

Its to bad they don't follow Chrysler's example and actually produce some of their concept cars.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3300 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):
Its to bad they don't follow Chrysler's example and actually produce some of their concept cars.

One can dream ....  cloudnine   Wink

Ford was pretty close with the concept and actual designs for the current Mustang.

To be honest, I'm anxious to see what becomes of the planned Camaro for 2008. Will it come out? And will it look anything even remotley close to the concept designs?



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3272 times:

Sure why not?
I am glad to see Riviera nameplate possibly coming back but I'd rather see it on a bigger coupe.
Perhaps the Regatta?



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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3068 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3269 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Perhaps the Regatta?

Quite possibly so.

A Buick grille and badges applied to a Scion TC do not a Riviera make. That abomination is no Riviera.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3263 times:

Quoting TSS (Reply 7):
Buick grille and badges applied to a Scion TC do not a Riviera make. That abomination is no Riviera.

I guess I can agree.
Considering how GM is neglecting the Buick division, I am just happy to see them come out with something different. That Regatta was a great car. Too bad it was front-wheel drive.
I'd like to see Buick bring back some styling cues from the original 1963 and boattail Rivieras of the early 1970s.






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User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3254 times:

The Riviera used to be here in the USA. Then GM axed it in 1999.

My mother was loyal to these models; when one got old my mother would get a new one, until the final model. Afterwards, my mother made the mistake of buying a Jaguar.

My all-time favorite car was my mother's 1989 Buick Riviera. It was so high tech for its day, even incorporating a touch-screen computer system for controlling many things such as climate control, radio, etc...


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3243 times:

N231YE:
Sounds like your mother has excellent taste in cars.  bigthumbsup 
She likes cars that has lots of character and style. Buick has that and Jaguar is the next logical choice after a Riviera.
Jaguar looks 10 times better than the other high-end brands from Europe such as bmw and Daimler/Chrysler.




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User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1798 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3237 times:

Superfly........if available I think you would buy one of these then.......



Interesting to see that China seems to be a more interesting market for Buick than the US, they seem to be putting more effort in new product introduction over there......

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Buick’s Chinese massage

Buick will revive the Park Avenue moniker for a new entry in the booming Chinese market. Like the forthcoming U.S.-bound Pontiac G8, the Park Avenue is built on GM’s new rear-wheel-drive platform and will offer 2.8- and 3.6-liter engine options. Its interior has navigation and entertainment systems with LCD screens and leather seats with massage capabilities. The Park Avenue makes its public debut at the Shanghai auto show later this month.

From: http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...0419/FREE/70417003/1024/latestnews
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User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3222 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
Sounds like your mother has excellent taste in cars.   
She likes cars that has lots of character and style. Buick has that and Jaguar is the next logical choice after a Riviera.

Well, my mother used to have taste. After owning the PITA Jaguar (thing was in the shop like 3 times a month), my mother went to a Dodge Grand Caravan, than to a Dodge Dakota pickup  confused 

However, my mother is now looking at something new. She loves the Maybach but was stunned by the $300,000 price tag! But she is also thinking about the Lexus LS and/or the Buick Lucerne.

I am glad that GM is giving Buick new life...as for a while, Buicks were pretty much AARP-endorsed "boring" vehicles.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3218 times:

Marcus:
Those are nice cars!  yes 
What is the date on your article?
As of three weeks ago, GM announced that they are not going to go forward with a large reardrive platform. They are going to spit out front-drive Enterprise rental car specials.  Sad

Quoting N231YE (Reply 12):
my mother went to a Dodge Grand Caravan, than to a Dodge Dakota pickup

Oh gosh!  Wow!
Talk about a huge departure!
This is the first I've heard of someone cross-shopping the Lucurne and Maybach. I am sure some GM excecs would be happy to hear that.  Smile
Nothing wrong with being a 'mature' brand. Jaguar is also an older buyer but still a very cool vehicle to drive.  yes 



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User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3212 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):

My mom was at a car show last year, and loved the Maserati. Who knows what she may decide, though it would be sweet if she did get one; "hey mom, could you let your gracious and loving son take the car for a drive"  wink 


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3205 times:

Quoting N231YE (Reply 14):
My mom was at a car show last year, and loved the Maserati.

Here is a Maserati she could pick up relatively cheap.  Wink






OK it's a Chrysler LeBaron with Maserati interior, Mitsubishi V6 engine.
A true International vehicle.  Smile



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User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1798 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3161 times:

The article about the concept Riviera and the RWD Buick being developed for China are from this week I believe, as for the link with other Buick concept cars the article is recent but I believe the pictures are not.

In any case visit the Chinese website for Buick, they have a dedicated website for the Riviera concept.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3120 times:
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Quoting N231YE (Reply 12):
I am glad that GM is giving Buick new life...as for a while, Buicks were pretty much AARP-endorsed "boring" vehicles.

Same with Cadillac. They used to be grandma-cars, but with the alphabet soup and the Escalade, they are starting to get more trendy.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3111 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 17):
They used to be grandma-cars, but with the alphabet soup and the Escalade, they are starting to get more trendy.

I wish Cadillac went back to the "grandma-cars". I don't like the this alphabet soup nameplates. That's something many economy brands have done.
Give me a Fleetwood Brougham anyday over any of the CTS, DTS, HIV, XLR, DSL, DHS or what ever the hell they call it.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3111 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
I don't like the this alphabet soup nameplates

Neither do I, but the cars actually look nice though. I would love an Escalade, however  Smile



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3107 times:

I think the new Cadillacs are decent cars but do not look like elite luxury brand vehicles. The current Cadillac line should have been Oldsmobiles.
The last real Cadillac was the 1996 Fleetwood Brougham.
 drool 




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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3061 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
The last real Cadillac was the 1996 Fleetwood Brougham.

It looks good all the way from the front to the back doors, but the trunk could easily have shaved off a foot and still fit a studio apartment inside  Smile



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26495 posts, RR: 75
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3030 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
Here is a Maserati she could pick up relatively cheap.

If she can find one that still runs. I actually saw one of those POS' recently here in New Orleans in bright red.



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User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3010 times:

Quoting Marcus (Thread starter):
I wonder why is it that GM can come up with good designs and very good products arround the world

Also see: Ford's Australia and European divisions

Quoting N231YE (Reply 12):
Lexus LS and/or the Buick Lucerne.

LS  checkmark 
Lucerne  no 

That Tranny in the Lucerne is aweful. Steer clear.

Quoting N231YE (Reply 14):

My mom was at a car show last year, and loved the Maserati.

 drool 

piercey in CLE  Sad



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User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3004 times:

If this car ever makes it to production - it shares a platform with the Saturn Sky and the Pontiac Solstice.

Translation: it's gonna be small.



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25 Post contains images N243NW : Anyone else notice the side mirrors? How is anyone supposed to see out of those? -N243NW
26 Flight152 : No one is actually supposed to drive it-- it's a concept.
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