Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 51 Posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1621 times:
Mr. and Mrs. Bishop,
I am sorry for your loss. No matter what your son's intentions were in the last few moments of his life, it is a tragic loss. It is my sincere hope that the circumstances of his death will not cause you a long-term burden, in public or in private.
Without judging the reasons behind your son's actions, it is obvious that he had some internal turmoil which took everyone by surprise. I pray that in his last moments, Charles was able to find some peace amidst the violence.
727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5720 posts, RR: 20 Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1535 times:
Living here in Tampa, this has hit me hard. I see that hole in the building as I drive to work each morning. My condolences to the family.
Alaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 17 Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1506 times:
Charles could have prevented this accident.
He must have had some serious problems with his head, you will not find a student pilot just go and take off without permission.
Flyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1490 times:
I feel quite bad for the family involved here and all loved ones, but not him. He was an idiot who choose to take his own life and screw up a lot of others. I nominate him for a Darwin award. Maybe if he knew he was going to be a laughing stock and not a hero he would've choose another cowardly way to take his life, yet in any case, he does not deserve any more respect than sewer scum.
Rapo From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 395 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1477 times:
I'd like to thank him for thinning out the gene-pool. The only gratitude I have is that no innocent people were killed.
KaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1585 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1456 times:
well said Flyf15 and rapo. The kid deserves no sympathy! His parents yes. But if anyone feels bad for him then something is wrong here! He is no different then the scum bags that flew into the World Trade Center, Pentagon, and the field out in PA. Why have any memorial for someone that flys an airplane into a building?!? This makes no sense at all!
Heavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1450 times:
I'm not big on half assed X/Y charts to cross reference how much pity to offer up someone.
Osama bin Laden and Mohammed Atta were just smart enough to achieve a pity-less state called evil.
This kid didn't appear to be evil. Just very messed up. Thus I pity him. Sympathy?...well, it seems like he hurt a helluva lotta people, if not actually in the target he drilled into. So my sympathy goes to them.
At the very least, this kid did something that COULD have been done by someone genuinely evil, heading for a far more precious target.
Show me the Coast Guard chopper not equipped with a high powered rifle today as opposed to last week...
Show me the air controller who hasn't refined his or her threat perception...
Show me a general aviation community that isn't now saying to themselves "yknow maybe planes should have better LOCKS..."
Badness always has a an equal and opposite reaction. Charles killed himself and punched a nasty but easily fixed hole in a building. That's it. Unlike 9/11, the positives that may come from this substantially outweigh the price that was paid.
KROC From United States of America, joined May 2000, 19737 posts, RR: 76 Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1419 times:
Sympathy for Charles Bishop...Are you serious?
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again"
Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 51 Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1408 times:
Yes, KROC, I'm serious. Ok, maybe I meant sympathy for his family and friends, but there are grieving, confused people out there. I'm not saying to forget what the kid did. Just have some compassion for his family (especially his grandmother, who took him for the lesson.)
KROC From United States of America, joined May 2000, 19737 posts, RR: 76 Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1409 times:
I feel sorry for his family in the sense they lost there son, grandson, ect. I can't feel too sorry, because I don't know how this kids life was. Also, I don't feel the least bit of sympathy for Charles himself.
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again"
Dreamexpress From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 255 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1384 times:
sympathy for him... ummmm... Does anyone feel sympathy for the the gits that fly'ed into the Trade Centre? I dont.
As for a Charles memorium forum.... NO! We may as well have a forum for the best terrorist. No person who wants to kill people deserves any sympathy.
ILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1361 times:
This kid was no Al Qaeda member. He was a simple 15 year old kid attending a high school, with some problems. There are many kids in this forum in this boys EXACT same situation.
Alessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1355 times:
The bottom line is that he shouldn´t have been allowed
to fly in the first case, nor hang around hang airplanes. Seem like flight schools have to inforce stricter rules,
perhaps limit the areas where airplane training are allowed.
KROC From United States of America, joined May 2000, 19737 posts, RR: 76 Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1352 times:
ILS, but these boys on this forum are not jacking a plane to crash it into a building. Dude had something wrong other than the everyday teenage Lubcha problems.
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again"
KROC From United States of America, joined May 2000, 19737 posts, RR: 76 Reply 20, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1348 times:
ILS, the difference. Lubcha is not at his local airfield taking off in a Cessna looking for the closest 40 plus story building to plow into.
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again"
ILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1345 times:
KROC, this kid never posted "My Life Sucks" threads. I am sure that if he crashed into a building, then his life sucked. Lubcha obviously had enough problems that were bigger than this kids to post his problems. So Lubchas problems are greater than this kids problems meaning that people like this will do some really freaky stuff.
Damn I screwed that one up. Must be the Vodka talking.
KROC From United States of America, joined May 2000, 19737 posts, RR: 76 Reply 22, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1344 times:
ILS, the ones that talk about there issues are usually not the ones to worry about. Besides, I had no idea you and Charles were such good buddies that you knew what was going on in his life. My bad. I guess I won't say anything more. Oh, and wern't the Trench Coat Mafia of Columbine fame "quiet" as you say?
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again"
Dg_pilot From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 856 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1341 times:
This is sickening. I will give him NO sympathy!
Were his parents paying ANY attention to him? Did they care? I'd like to know how he was brought up.
Any how, this individual will go down into American history as a loser and a terrorist--an appropriate description.
I don't think many people on here realize the extent to which he has negatively affected general aviation.
ILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1336 times:
KROC, where did you get the impression that we were buddies? I just responded to the guy's questions a few times.
25 America West: I feel for the family, but definitely not him. I don't feel that there should be any memorial or sympathy for someone that steals a plane and flies it
26 Lubcha132: 15- yes high school- yes lonely- yes smart- eh the only way i can start a plane is by hitting Ctrl-E. i only have .6 (36 mins) flying time. and i'm n
27 Climbout: I have lots of sympathy for his family and him also. I'm sad because this young man didn't know any other way to deal with his pain then this. It seem
28 KROC: ILS, you were commenting like you knew dude personaly. Saying because he didn't post how sad his life was meant he wasn't that bad off. Truth is, we d
29 Lubcha132: i feel bad for his family and people he knew but no feelings for him really.
30 VirginA340: You must be on crack to feel sorryfor this kid and his dad. His mom, friends and others yes. His father has been jailed repeatedly for drug possesion,
31 VirginA340: The PSA 727's wing was hit by a Cessna
32 ADG: What a lot of mean spirited, immature people there are in this forum. Todays reports indicate that he was prescribed a medication known for inducing s
33 Climbout: Yes, I heard that on the news this morning about the acne medication. Poor kid, my heart goes out to him deeply.
34 Carmy: Well my heart goes out to his family. Hopefully they'll be able to pull through this difficult time. Same sad feelings to the kid. I just wish there w
35 Lowsonboy: Some of the stuff written on this forum is horrible. The poor kid was obviously seriously messed in the head to the extent that he wanted to take his
36 Rapo: You're forgetting that he tried to take others out with him. That's why I feel as sorry for him as I do Klebold & Harris (which is, I don't). In this
37 Airlinelover: I offer Charles a Vulcan Proverb: May you find in death, the peace you never found in life. Chris
38 KaiTakFan: No damn excuse about how screwed up he was! There are millions of people screwed up in this world and they arnt flying god damn airplanes into buildin
39 Blink182: I couldn't agree more with flyf15, very well put. rgds, blink182
40 Yyz717: Sympathy? I don't think so. 15yo's are old enough to know right from wrong. Bad enough he killed himself but he very easily could have killed someone
41 Galilee: One question: If he were on a prescription that was known to cause depression and suicidal tendancies, then obviously someone had to purchase them for
42 VirginA340: ADG; your the one being blind by the facts among other of the more bleeding hearts on this forum feeling sorry for this brat! If a he had crashed into
43 America West: I mourn the death of a 15 year old boy. I mourn the death of a 15 year old boy too, but not when he steals a plane and tries to take innocent lives al
44 NWAirlines: If you were one of his parents how the hell would you feel? Would it make you feel better if people started saying that your 15 year old son had serio
45 TWAneedsNOhelp: No sympathy at all! Parents must be lousy to raise a kid like that without any morals, values, or social responsability, and while the kid had problem
46 EGGD: The PSA 727's wing was hit by a Cessna Actually, the PSA 727's flight crew failed to maintain visual separation with the cessna in front, and so the P
47 DeanBNE: source: Sydney Morning Herald "Parents of Tampa suicide pilot also tried to kill themselves" Miami, Florida: The parents of the 15-year-old who crashe
48 777236ER: But the cessna had made an unauthorised right hand turn that brought it into the path of the 727.
49 Capt.Picard: Why the point in this post? Forget it, he's gone, get over it and get on with life...if he had problems-fine, but do we need to go on and on about thi
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