A332 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 2 Posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2210 times:
I met up with a former work colleague today for lunch to discuss employment opportunities. I recently resigned my position in my company of 5 years due to corporate downsizing and have begun the search for a new role elsewhere. My buddy contacted me a few days ago as he learned of my departure and wished to present an offer.
Well... it sounds interesting. I would be going into a similar position in a smaller company with loads of growth potential. The catch is that it would require me to move to Brisbane, Australia in early June to get started. All moving expenses are paid and the new company will look after much of my immigration paperwork, work visa, etc. It sounds like a hell of an opportunity and I am excited at the prospect of such a life changing event.
However, I am well established in Calgary with a couple of houses on the go, some real good friends, and most importantly, my dog. I find myself feeling torn and conflicted about having to leave her behind with friends and family until I feel secure enough to begin the lengthy process of moving her down.
So... II am just looking for some feedback and some advice from those who have relocated to a far off land, especially those who have had to give up family, friends and pets for the opportunity to work and live abroad. What are the toughest challenges?
Australia is an extraordinarily diverse place. If you want to feel like you haven't left North America (NY or LA to be exact) then go to Sydney. Every other city has a far more indigenous (I don't necessarily mean literally aboriginal) and British/European flair. That's fine, if you like that sort of thing. I don't. I find Brisbane to be small and quiet. It shuts on the weekend. No joke. Still, you're relatively close to the Gold Coast which is a pretty exciting place - a bit like Miami.
I've been studying in the USA for the past 2 and a half years, away from everything you are afraid of leaving behind. It's just temporary, but still extended periods of time away. Moving away is tough as I am sure you are imagining. Based on that I would never have left Sao Paulo. It's my home, and I still dearly miss it when I'm away.
But there is also a host of good opportunities - it's something new, different, a challenge. It can help you on your career as well. And if you don't like it there, or miss home too much, you can always move back.
I would go for it. Find out what's it like, see how it goes and decide from there.
"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
I agree. Brisbane is a shithole. However there are some great places in Queensland. If you can work from home I'd head out of Brisbane a bit.
You can bring your dog, and your friends will love the idea of coming to visit you and riding kangaroos around for their holidays. I believe that every human with the means to do so should definitely live somewhere other than their home country at least once. It's exciting, challenging, and broadens the mind.
OzGuy From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 392 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2139 times:
You'll probably love living in Brisbane. It'll be sad saying goodbye to the mates your close to over there knowing that you'll not see them for long periods of time, but Brisbane is a very social place and you should make friends quick.
There are heaps of pros and a few cons of living there, as with anywhere, but I definately think the pros outweigh the cons.
Pros include the fact that it is very close the the Gold Coast which is an awesome place to spend the weekend. Lots of things to do there. And I don't know how fond of theme parks you are, but the Gold Coast is our theme park destination. It's very warm, and doesn't have a severe winter, so people do tend to live a more outdoor lifestyle. This is a generalisation of course, but fairly accurate. And as QFF said, Brisbane closes on the weekends, and as a result there always seems to be lots of BBQ's and parties going on which is always nice. Airfares are generally very cheap (AUD$150 return if you book early) and you've got services by two low costs and Qantas between Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne as well as more limited options to other cities which is good because it makes getting to see Sydney and Melbourne fairly hassle free. There're also international flights that leave Brisbane including very cheap flights across to New Zealand if you were interested in spending a long weekend there or something. Car insurance is very cheap compared to the rest of Australia, housing is relatively cheap compared to Canberra, Sydney and Melbourne. And the train systems is fairly reliable and has a good timetable - though I haven't lived there since 2001 so things may have changed a bit.
As for the Cons, my biggest issue with Brisbane was the fact that you have to do shopping and buy anything you want over the weekends during the week, because you can find most things shut down. I still live with my parents, but when we first moved to Brisbane we ended up eating out quite a bit on the weekends when mum forgot to do the shopping earlier. I don't know if I'm just used to living is Canberra which is very well planned, but Brisbane seems very poorly laid out and it takes a long time to drive through the city. And it's very hilly, with roads going up and down, so you'll want to invest in a car with automatic transmission if you do move. It also gets very humid in the Summer.
So yeah, hope this has given you at least one thing you didn't already know about Brisbane, feel free to ask us any more specific questions you might have and I'm sure someone will be able to find an answer for you.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2109 times:
Given my current situation, if I get the chance and going back to Germany isn't an option anymore, I'd move to Australia in a heartbeat. On the other hand, I know what you'd go through, because I had to go through the separation from friends and being well established in Hamburg to starting over in Costa Rica, something I never managed to get right. Plus, what hurt me a lot as well was the simple fact that I got out of touch with the people back home.
My suggestion is to think this through, but not too long, as such opportunities will expire. However, in this day and age, keeping in touch with friends isn't as difficult as it was in 1997, so things might be easier for you. Whatever the choice, you have to be absolutely sure that this is what you want, and your decision has to be final. It's difficult, but doable.
KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12217 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2003 times:
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Quoting A332 (Thread starter): So... II am just looking for some feedback and some advice from those who have relocated to a far off land, especially those who have had to give up family, friends and pets for the opportunity to work and live abroad. What are the toughest challenges?
I would do it. I moved from Norway to the US myself. It has been a great experience so far, and while I miss Norway at times, I feel like I have a lot more opportunities here. Like others said, you can always move back if you don't like it.
LoungeLover From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1962 times:
She's heard a lot already but I promise to give that one a try tonight.
In her list of arguments for coming to Australia she actually mentioned it would be great to be closer to her parents.
I just replied by saying that I have my very own perfectly dysfunctional parents right here in Europe, so no need there.
She then started to mumble something about quality of life whilst I was demonstrating that on this continent, you are actually allowed to shower once a day and flush the toilet (god forbid) without the entire London metropolitan area going into a 3-week water/drought crisis.
WildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2598 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1962 times:
If you like snow in June, stay put. If not, go. There is a lot of us who live far away from the rest of family. With all the technology it's not so hard anymore. Free videoconferencing is available, so you can chat with friends for hours and if you'd feel too alone - Canada is only a 77L flight away.
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