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NFL-ers Mount Eloquent, Strong Defense Of Vick.  
User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 47
Posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1537 times:

How to come off as an A-hole while trying to defend a fellow A-hole in the media.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...investigatio.ap/index.html?cnn=yes


"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
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User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

Good for Vick. This is the guy I'd want to get my back, too. "'Everybody' is doing it..."



User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1516 times:

Portis is a Redskin what else would you expect from that organization?


Go big or go home
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

Someone get the GM of the Deadskins on the phone and see what he'd give the Falcons for Vick so he can be on the same team as these clowns.

Personally, I hope that the reports that Vick's name is on some evidence collected in the investigation (I wonder if which name he used, Michael Vick or Ron Mexico?) is true and he gets charged in regards to this case. He's already on a short leash with the Falcons' owner and Blank (along with Rich McKay) probably trying to figure out a way to save face (especially after trading away their backup plan) and get rid of this guy. I wouldn't be surprised if Vick's the next player to really be made an example of by Goodell's new NFL Personal Code of Conduct, which already nailed Pacman Jones for a year and Chris Henry for 8 games.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13033 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1503 times:

What gets to me is that Michael Vick may get into more trouble for allowing (illegal) dog fights on his property and knowing about it than if he had beat up his wife/girlfriend or some guy. Far too many people take more umbrige over the abuse of animals than of humans.
If there is the evidence that he did knowingly allowed such dog fights on his property and is convicted, then he should be be booted from the NFL for a significant number of games.


User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1498 times:

Portis made a total ass of himself. its one thing to think that, but to tell the media it?
Wow.


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 5):
Portis made a total ass of himself. its one thing to think that, but to tell the media it?
Wow.

Perhaps to much money, makes Portis out of touch with reality? Then again didn't he come from the University of Miami?


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1486 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 3):
Someone get the GM of the Deadskins on the phone and see what he'd give the Falcons for Vick so he can be on the same team as these clowns.

Not much. I'm pretty sure the foreskins have mortgaged all their draft picks for the next 10 years to put together this incorrigible and mediocre bunch.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1471 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 4):
What gets to me is that Michael Vick may get into more trouble for allowing (illegal) dog fights on his property and knowing about it than if he had beat up his wife/girlfriend or some guy. Far too many people take more umbrige over the abuse of animals than of humans.

Let's just say this is just the latest in a line of incidents revolving around #7.

The water bottle with a false bottom incident @ MIA
The "dirty bird" he gave to home fans after a loss last November.
The photo that circulated around the Internet last Summer showing him with a blunt in his hand.
The "Ron Mexico" herpes lawsuit which he settled out of court (referring back to the above mentioned photo, he also had visible herpes sores on his mouth as well).


User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1469 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 6):
Then again didn't he come from the University of Miami?

Sure he did, but what does that have to do with anything?
It wouldn't matter if he went to Norfolk State, Miami, or Utah STate, the comments he made were retarded.


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1463 times:

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 9):
Sure he did, but what does that have to do with anything?

And this comment is coming from someone who called Fresno State as Felony State.  bomb 

The University of Miami has a well documented history of recruiting less than outstanding citizens to play football for them. (and if they couldn't play football they wouldn't have been admitted into school) , which as a result was one of the reasons why Mr. Coker was canned as head coach after this past season. If they caused problems as Miami, for some the history of problems with authorities has continued in the NFL.


User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 10):

And this comment is coming from someone who called Fresno State as Felony State. bomb

The University of Miami has a well documented history of recruiting less than outstanding citizens to play football for them. (and if they couldn't play football they wouldn't have been admitted into school) , which as a result was one of the reasons why Mr. Coker was canned as head coach after this past season. If they caused problems as Miami, for some the history of problems with authorities has continued in the NFL

Fresno State has its own share of problems that would need another thread entirely to talk about fully.
Murder coverups and the like.
Mr. Coker got shitcanned because he couldn't coach, not because his recruits were of less than unsavory character.
And to say Miami is the only school that recruits thugs is laughable.
What about Florida State? what about the Suckeyes? What about Fresno State? How about Montana State? 10 or so of the Bobcat players are on trial for drugs and/or murder, and one coach is on trial for meth dealing. And Miami is the only one with problems?
The list goes on and on. Even Joe Pa in Penn State recruits trouble makers.
Its not the game of character, its the game of football.


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3829 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 1438 times:

What about Florida State?

You mean Free Shoes University?



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 1436 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 12):
What about Florida State?

You mean Free Shoes University?

Thanks for illustrating my point.
Not to mention the dynamic duo of Ernie Sims and AJ Nicholson.
When Nicholson got arrested for beating his Girlfriend this past week, you didn't see anyone saying "What do you expect, hes a Seminole."
Some people are just jealous of the Canes success.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1427 times:

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 13):
Some people are just jealous of the Canes success.

Perhaps (though that success has been diminishing as of late) but UM has a long history of recruiting thugs and criminals. Hell, they've even relished it under Jimmy Johnson and Butch Davis.

They aren't the only ones being bad in the college ranks but they sure as Hell are the poster child.

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 3):
He's already on a short leash with the Falcons' owner and Blank

I've never liked the Falcons but I wish Arthur Blank would get them to clean up their act. These jackasses paint ATL in a bad light (no comments from the peanut gallery folks) as being a total thug loving city. Perhaps the southside loves Vick, his herpes, and dog fights but I'd dare say a huge portion of the Atlanta population think he is a disaster and disgrace to the city. At least he isn't his gun toting brother.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 14):
Butch Davis

How?
He, if anything, cleaned up Pinky Errickson's mess.
And if you are thinking of the 91 Cotton Bowl massacre on Texas, it was under Errickson as well.

When was the last time the Gayturds beat Miami?


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

Oh yeah, forgot about Erickson. He's a bit shady. Davis wasn't nearly as bad as Johnson and I of course forgot good old Howard Schnellenberger (sic?) as well.

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 15):
When was the last time the Gayturds beat Miami?

Irrelevant to this conversation but sadly it has been a while.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1417 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 16):
Oh yeah, forgot about Erickson. He's a bit shady. Davis wasn't nearly as bad as Johnson and I of course forgot good old Howard Schnellenberger (sic?) as well.

Erickson's entire problem was he was a huge alcoholic. Free reign under him.
Schnelly was who started the foundation for the program.
Davis was a horrible gameday coach, but a great recruiter.

Oh, and last time the gates won was in 1985.


User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6785 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 10):
The University of Miami has a well documented history of recruiting less than outstanding citizens to play football for them. (and if they couldn't play football they wouldn't have been admitted into school) , which as a result was one of the reasons why Mr. Coker was canned as head coach after this past season. If they caused problems as Miami, for some the history of problems with authorities has continued in the NFL.

It's not so much a university as it is a lawless football factory.

Portis is a moron. A millionaire moron thanks to one quality of being a good athlete and that's about it.

Vick is a moron too.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 14):
Perhaps the southside loves Vick, his herpes, and dog fights but I'd dare say a huge portion of the Atlanta population think he is a disaster and disgrace to the city. At least he isn't his gun toting brother.

Hey, I live on the southside and I don't support him......  hissyfit 

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 14):
I've never liked the Falcons but I wish Arthur Blank would get them to clean up their act.

I just wonder how screwed up things would be if the Clampetts I mean the Smiths, still owned the team.


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1349 times:

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 15):
When was the last time the Gayturds beat Miami?

I think the only "turds" that existed the state of Florida during the '06-'07 football season were in Miami and Tallahassee. UF seemed to do pretty well thank you. (Ask OSU what they think.)

When UM wins NCAA Championships in Football and Basketball (back to back) then come and talk to me. Until then it seems that Miami fans should STFU and worry about no embarrassing themselves another year.

God I miss football season.


User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1313 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 20):
UF seemed to do pretty well thank you.

Guess that loss on their record kind of taints them among other champs. In fact, both of UF's championships came with a blemished record, in contrast to FSU and Miami. That must stink.

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 2):
Portis is a Redskin what else would you expect from that organization?

We couldn't have said it any better!

Signed,
Michael Irvin, Nate Newton and Leon Lett

-R


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1302 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 19):
I just wonder how screwed up things would be if the Clampetts I mean the Smiths, still owned the team.

The folks that ran the Falcons as a 35 year old expansion team? Hmm...me thinks Vick would be running a dog fighting, drugg running, and prostitution ring if he was free to do anything he wanted. Of course they would have not spent any money, drafted even crappier players, and traded away folks that they would have screwed up though shine elsewhere.

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 21):
Guess that loss on their record kind of taints them among other champs.

Right. Because nobody else has won a championship with one loss.  sarcastic 

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 21):
In fact, both of UF's championships came with a blemished record, in contrast to FSU and Miami.

BFD. You sound like UNLV bitching they should have been national champs back in the 90s because Duke had 5+ losses when they beat them in the NCAA final for their first loss. You sir are a maroon.

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 21):
That must stink.

Not really. We're the better team in the state while FSU continues to slide downhill under Bowden's encroaching senility and UM is still a ways from getting anywhere given the damage Coker did. I dare say Pope and I are quite happy with the results and the only stink we smell is coming from Tallahassee and Coral Gables.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1298 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 19):
Hey, I live on the southside and I don't support him......

You know I meant a certain contingent that lives south of I-20 but inside 285 who thinks any criticism of Vick is just another case of The Man trying to hold him down. I'm suprised Ludacris has written some sort of rap song about it yet.  Wink



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1295 times:

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 21):
Guess that loss on their record kind of taints them among other champs. In fact, both of UF's championships came with a blemished record, in contrast to FSU and Miami. That must stink.

There are no style points in football. A win is a win and a National Championship is a National Championship. If anything, Florida's National Championships have come without the air of cheating and NCAA violations that have surrounded UM and FSU's.

It's great to be a Florida Gator!

When either UM or FSU can do what we've done in the past 2 years feel free to rub it in my face. Hell, call me when Miami can consistently sell out home games. In a metropolitan area the size of Miami, it speaks volumes when you can't convince 70,000 people to come watch you play. Heck even when Miami played a cross town rival in FIU, you couldn't get 40,000 people in all of Miami to show up (perhaps you should bill it as an Ultimate Fighting event next time to get more people).

In contrast we routinely get 50,000 people at our spring scrimmage.


25 DL021 : Mike Vick has had 6 years to develop some consistency in his play. He hasn't. He's had 6 years to dig himself deep into the crap that he's amidst righ
26 YOWza : Michael Vick gave Herpes to a chick and then cleverly decided to use the fake name Ron Mexico in court. After said stupidity the NFL allowed him to ke
27 767Lover : Not to mention the fact that the Ray Lewis incident happened here as well. The NFL needs to clean up its act. My husband has been following the Vick
28 Post contains images UAXDXer : What a TOOL!!!
29 102IAHexpress : That’s because it is mostly a racial issue. It is true that dog fighting is indeed a black mark in African American subculture, but I don’t see h
30 UAXDXer : Does this African American Subculture eat the dogs after they are mangled after the fight? If not than their is no comparison. Once again... how many
31 102IAHexpress : Dog fighting is wrong. Hunting innocent animals for sport is also as wrong. Period.
32 767Lover : Yes, dog fighting is found in AfAm subculture but that's not the racial angle I was referring to. I was referring to contention that "everyone is try
33 102IAHexpress : Well, there will always be some people who do not want black people to succeed. But I don’t know how much of role that notion plays into this situat
34 Post contains images DeltaGator : The hilarious thing about it though is dog fighting is something that both low class black and white folks come together for. It's called money. Do y
35 LTBEWR : Vick may be starting to pay a price for his alleged involvement in illegal dog fighting - ESPN said this morning that Air Tran is terminating it's end
36 102IAHexpress : Correction: Air Tran did not terminate his contract. His contract expired on May 8th. ESPN may be reporting that his contract was terminated, but in E
37 DL021 : In my state both black and white hunters go out and hunt for sport and meat. They also perform a needed function since there are too many deer withou
38 Post contains images CastleIsland : The real issue here is why the Falcons let Matt Schaub go...
39 Mir : As much as it pains me to defend the practice of hunting, I'd bet good money that the animals that are killed by hunters go a lot quicker and a lot m
40 102IAHexpress : Hunting for sport exists in African American culture as well as white culture this is true, but in white culture it is much much more prevalent (part
41 767Lover : Absolutely. The "bait" dogs are basically made to be completely defenseless (blinded, nails removed, etc) and then used as a punching bag for the fig
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