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Techies: What's Your Favorite Linux Flavor?  
User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2486 times:

Okay, so after playing with several flavors over the past few years, I've finally settled on Fedora. It may have its drawbacks, such as needing to manual set up a WIFI connection, but once it's set up, I find it quite easy to use.

I've used others, such as Ubuntu, PCLinuxOS, and Slackware, but I feel most at home in Fedora, at both the command line and in GNOME. Yum and RPM make installing things a snap, and mucho repositories help out a lot.

So, for those of you out there that use, or have used, Linux, which do you like, and why?


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User currently offlineRammstein From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

I have used Yggdrasil Linux, Slackware, RedHat, Fedora, SuSE and right now at home I'm using Ubuntu while on work servers Debian!

User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

Debian-based Knoppix v5.1.1.

User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

lmao.

Fedora?!?!

Cheap imitation of a cross between OS X and Windows

Take a look at this:

http://linux-noob.com/review/fedora/fcrh/images/fcr5.png

What does that remind you of?

Menu bar exactly the same as X, including the comically blue fedora logo in the same place as the apple logo. And what is that I see along the bottom? Why, its XP style task bar tabs...

The question is...why use Linux? Join the real world and get a machine that isn't 1,000,000 times harder to operate than the equivalent X or XP machine......

Fair enough if you use it as a business tool - but as a home option? Give me a break. You're not big or clever by using this.

Alex


User currently offlineRolfen From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 1803 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

Ubuntu
(filler...filler...)



rolf
User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2419 times:

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 3):
Cheap imitation of a cross between OS X and Windows

That's GNOME, the GUI interface, and is included with Fedora, but the developers have no affiliation with Fedora or Red Hat, and the GUI is included with many flavors. If you want to see "cheap imitation" then look at KDE. Here's something you can do with GNOME and KDE, though, that you CAN'T with Windows or OSX: you can install any look and/or feel that you want, can heavily customize it, and can contribute to it's development.

I guess that you'll next accuse the command-line interface of being a cheap imitation of the Mac OSX command-line interface?

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 3):
The question is...why use Linux? Join the real world and get a machine that isn't 1,000,000 times harder to operate than the equivalent X or XP machine......

Linux IS the real world. A.net is running on *nix server. Wikipedia runs on Fedora 5. Domain names and IP addresses started with Unix, and Linux is an open source variation of Unix. The whole internet is based on *nix protocols! Got a problem with it?

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 3):
Fair enough if you use it as a business tool - but as a home option? Give me a break. You're not big or clever by using this.

Why be bonded to the likes of Bill or Steve? Linux is free to install and free to distribute. There's no licensing, no proprietary hardware, and no limiting architectures. It's a very universal operating system, and with the multitude of variations ("flavors") of Linux that linux has, you can do anything with it.



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User currently offlinePLANAR From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

I am very comfortable with any flavour. Although I must hand out the ease of use award to OpenSuse. In fact the latest version detects all your hardware and configures them automatically.

Personally I love Gentoo - the build it yourself Linux - Gentoo allowed me to have a mean, lean, ultra-fast machine with everything I needed.


Both Linux and Windows are nice and have their own faults.
Nothing beats Linux and its variants when you have to do a programming task, compose thesis in Latex etc.
Windows has an amazing ease of use, no nonsense get directly to it attitude, although the path may not be as efficient.


For Windows Lovers: Search for "Unix haters Handbook" on web. Its a free E-book, you'll enjoy reading it!  Wink



Flim-Flam Balderdash...
User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3884 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 5):
The whole internet is based on *nix protocols! Got a problem with it?

The whole internet is based on open protocols like TCP/IP (the reference stack for which is BSD based, which is very very distantly related to Unix).

Linux is all good and nice, but people are allowed to have other preferences. I, for example, run many Linux (and Unix, like Solarix and AIX, and BSD, mainly OpenBSD) servers but I wouldnt ever have it on the desktop, and I dont choose it for every server I require.

My Linux distribution of choice is Gentoo.

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 5):
Linux is free to install and free to distribute. There's no licensing

Linux is licensed under the GPL, and you have to watch yourself when you distribute it because it can bite you in the ass.


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2400 times:

Quoting Moo (Reply 7):
Linux is licensed under the GPL, and you have to watch yourself when you distribute it because it can bite you in the ass.

You're right about GPL. I should have been more clear when I wrote that, but when I said "licenseing" I meant paying an exorbatant amount of money just to install the software.



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User currently offlineN234NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2395 times:
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I put Ubuntu on my work laptop. It's great, except that I still have to use my windows machine for Office 2007 documents. We are a marketing vendor for MS, and have to prepare everything in Office 2007. I'm looking forward to better open office - Office 2007 compatibility.

For Servers - Debian, 3 and 4. .. Help and tutorials for it are in abundance on the net. Managing my Windows servers takes up 95% of my job, but only because the environment is more complex (Exchange, VSS, MOSS, etc.). The Linux boxes seem to just run by themselves, albeit, their tasks are rather limited > Web Server, Mail Gateway, FTP, etc.


User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3884 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2395 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 8):

You're right about GPL. I should have been more clear when I wrote that, but when I said "licenseing" I meant paying an exorbatant amount of money just to install the software.

Define 'an exorbitant amount of money' - if it does what I need, I'm willing to pay the cost. Rabid fanboyism will only hurt me in the long run.


User currently offlineDamirc From Slovenia, joined Feb 2004, 724 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Slackware for me .... Tried many of them throughout the years, but all of my servers running Linux are running Slackware  Smile

I dual boot Vista and Kubuntu on my primary desktop.

D.


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

Quoting Moo (Reply 10):
Define 'an exorbitant amount of money' - if it does what I need, I'm willing to pay the cost. Rabid fanboyism will only hurt me in the long run.

Say, oh, $360 for Windows Vista Ultimate. I know that the Enterprise editions of Linux will, for the most part, be pay-for-use software since it comes with support services, etc., since a high majority of those users will not be "techy" people. For someone who uses *nix on a personal machine, though, they generally have the technical know-how understand the material provided by the developer and help-circles (which really isn't all that hard to read) in order to maintain and use the system.

As far as fanboyism, I'm far from it. I understand the software's strengths and its limitations. All I did in reply 5 was explain, to the best of my ability, why he was wrong in his reasoning.

(Besides, WoW isn't flawless using WINE and OpenGL, so I use Windows on my main system for that.   )

Quoting N234NW (Reply 9):
Managing my Windows servers takes up 95% of my job, but only because the environment is more complex (Exchange, VSS, MOSS, etc.).

And now that Microsoft is dipping it's hand into the Linux market, it's just going to get worse, I fear.

edit- For PR, it's a server I set up, and while I've set up Linux on my regular PC, becuase of the small market share and exposure it has, it still has its limitations as far as mass-produced commercial software, and therefore not good for home use, except for those who like digging into the internals of something and have nothing better to do.  Wink

[Edited 2007-05-24 23:20:50]


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User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 5):
Linux IS the real world. A.net is running on *nix server. Wikipedia runs on Fedora 5. Domain names and IP addresses started with Unix, and Linux is an open source variation of Unix. The whole internet is based on *nix protocols! Got a problem with it?

Yeah, my two webservers run on Unix and Windows - and the former is by far the most reliable and easy to manage - but that is not my home solution - and it is NOT what I would want to use for non-work related tools.

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 5):
Linux is free to install and free to distribute.

www.redhat.com *rolls eyes*

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 5):
Why be bonded to the likes of Bill or Steve?

Because the operating systems are much better?

Seriously. Think about it.


User currently offlineBagpiper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 3):
Fedora?!?!

Cheap imitation of a cross between OS X and Windows

Thats called the GUI, which is GNOME in that case. The under-the-hood is nothing close to windows, and far better than OS X, in my opinion.

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 3):
What does that remind you of?

A computer...

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 3):
Menu bar exactly the same as X, including the comically blue fedora logo in the same place as the apple logo. And what is that I see along the bottom? Why, its XP style task bar tabs...

Again, its the GUI.

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 3):
The question is...why use Linux? Join the real world and get a machine that isn't 1,000,000 times harder to operate than the equivalent X or XP machine......

The real world operates on Linux, dude. I can go find the percentage of Linux web servers compared to Windows servers if you want. Most sites you go to are running on *nix, not to mention A.net.

Most communications across the world are based on *nix. Passenger lists on flights from departure to destination: *nix. Baggage lists: *nix. The horse power behind DSL: *nix. Your router you are sitting behind: *nix.

Get the idea?

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 3):
You're not big or clever by using this.

Well, that is true, because *nix is fairly easy to use... *bows to  clever  windows or OS X user*.



on topic:

My favorite distro has got to be Fedora 6... I'm running several servers on it right now. I'd like to try CentOS instead of Fedora for the servers, though.





But I admit *nix is not the great savior of the world. For regular home usage, I use XP (soon Vista, maaaaybe), just because it is so much easier to use what "everybody" else uses. Plus, I like some of the features in Windows that make it a breeze. No, its not as customizable, but the stuff that does need changing is in a GUI, not command line, where you have to remember 500 commands.

But for any other use... I love Linux!


User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Quoting Bagpiper (Reply 14):

Don't get me wrong. I understand that the net operates on linux. But seriously - for a home option - sharing files with friends and family and general interaction - Linux is a joke if the rest of your family and friends run OS X, or *takes deep breath* - windows.

Alex


User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

I use "Puppy"

Boots from CD, runs entierly in RAM and is excellent for going on the internet (the fact it runs in the RAM makes it much safer should it encounter a LINUX compatible virus.

I'm looking for other varients which I can run on the same machine as WINXP. I am going to use puppy on my older computer as it makes it lightning fast (and will give the machine a future as it looked like it was staying in storage, but now can be used as an internet only workhorse.

Phil
FlyingColours



Lifes a train racing towards you, now you can either run away or grab a chair & a beer and watch it come - Phil
User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2347 times:

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 16):
I use "Puppy"

Sometimes I use Puppy too! I have it burned on a mini-CD and I really like the look of it. Have you ever tried DSL, Damn Small Linux? I use that sometimes depending on my mood and I like the "status" info it has right on the desktop.


User currently offlineAv8rphx From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 713 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2329 times:

OpenBSD > *




On topic, I used to be a slackware kid way back in the days of slackware 3.5


User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3188 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2327 times:

First and foremost I'm a Mac user, but I am now at the point where all of my computers dual boot with Gentoo Linux (though only the PC and the server boot into it on a regular basis). I like how Gentoo lets me customize to get just what I want, and also appreciate how once it's installed it goes version-less. Once you install it, every time you update the packages you'll always get the latest versions available. Unlike, say, Fedora, where if you're still using Fedora Core 4, you're stuck with Firefox 1.0.x unless you install a newer version manually; whereas Core 5 and 6 users have 1.5 (and won't get 2).

At work I use Fedora (currently Core 5) and have grown to appreciate it; there's something to be said for having things just work, unlike constant configuration to get things working on Gentoo -- fortunately, lots of things for Gentoo are well documented and the community is very helpful.

If I had to setup Linux to be my main daily OS at home, I'd probably look at Kubuntu or Fedora with KDE. For a server, I'd probably lean towards CentOS, since it goes a lot longer between major upgrades so it's easier to keep the applications up to date without having to take the server down for a full reinstall.


User currently offlineBagpiper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2319 times:

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 15):
Don't get me wrong. I understand that the net operates on linux. But seriously - for a home option - sharing files with friends and family and general interaction - Linux is a joke if the rest of your family and friends run OS X, or *takes deep breath* - windows.

Ah, my bad. I agree with using it for home office stuff, file sharing, etc. Pain in the butt. But that is mostly because "everybody else" uses windows or Mac. If "everybody else" used linux... well... it would be a dream!

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 13):

www.redhat.com *rolls eyes*

With Red Hat, you pay for the support. They release the source code, which Fedora and CentOS are based off of. They just don't release the compiled product for free - and they bundle it with support.

Besides, why would you be using Red Hat? Thats more for enterprise stuff... Fedora is the desktop brother of Red Hat, and is much better suited to home use.


User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2299 times:

Quoting Bagpiper (Reply 20):
Ah, my bad. I agree with using it for home office stuff, file sharing, etc. Pain in the butt. But that is mostly because "everybody else" uses windows or Mac. If "everybody else" used linux... well... it would be a dream!

Yes.
So if Mac and Windows can be compatible - why cannot Linux? How is it so holy-style great if it cannot complete basic tasks that any home office or home machine needs - to interact with friends and family.

Alex


User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2292 times:

Quoting Queso (Reply 17):
Have you ever tried DSL, Damn Small Linux?

Not tried it yet, heard about it though. I think I'll take a look later on tonight.

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 21):
So if Mac and Windows can be compatible - why cannot Linux? How is it so holy-style great if it cannot complete basic tasks that any home office or home machine needs - to interact with friends and family.

Linux can open just about any file that windows can, including office files. The only problem I have had is saving them so office can read them. It just depends on if someone has managed to make an application for the task you need.

BTW - Does anyone know a good MP3 player for it, I can play Mp3s in puppy but there is no application to close, so if I want to stop the song I must exit the OS and reload, takes about 30 seconds in total.

Phil
FlyingColours



Lifes a train racing towards you, now you can either run away or grab a chair & a beer and watch it come - Phil
User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2272 times:

I'm a Slackware guy, through and through. But if somebody asks me to recommend something for them I say Ubuntu, it's idiot-proof meaning I will not end up giving hours of free support as I would inevitably do if I put people on to Slackware.

YOWza



12A whenever possible.
User currently offlineDamirc From Slovenia, joined Feb 2004, 724 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 21):
Yes.
So if Mac and Windows can be compatible - why cannot Linux? How is it so holy-style great if it cannot complete basic tasks that any home office or home machine needs - to interact with friends and family.

Let us help you then. What can't you perform under Linux?

File sharing on the LAN? Samba
Documents/spreadsheets etc.? OpenOffice.org
Playing music? Take your pick, there's plenty of selection. Freshmeat's multimedia section
Playing video? Xine, mplayer, ...
Instant messaging? Pidgin (previously gaim)

Seriously - what is giving you problems? We can solve it here  Smile

And if anyone wants to give Linux a spin - I suggest using a Live CD, to see it for yourself.

Download, burn, take it for a spin ...

D.


25 ThePRGuy : Sorry perhaps you don't understand... Maybe I just want to install my OS, boot it up and get on with my work without spending 45 years setting things
26 Post contains images AirbusA346 : Haven't really used Linux much Tom.
27 Moo : This attitude has become prevalent (and I'm not saying its a bad attitude, so don't take it that way) among evangelical Linux users - 'whats the prob
28 Post contains images Damirc : Well I just responded to try and help you the compatibility issues with data exchange which you claim to have with your friends and family Give Kubun
29 Post contains images Damirc : Fact of the matter is that these days the only aspect where Linux is really lagging - is gaming. What you will find in the Linux community however, i
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