Lehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 25 Posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 748 times:
Bush Sr's term was from Jan 1989 to Jan 1993. Bush Jr's term, so far, goes from Jan 2000 to Jan 2004. Supposedly, the young one won't make the same mistakes are the elder, but he has.
Elder Bush proclaimed "no new taxes", the whole time the Gulf War went on, he had good ratings. However the economy started to fall a bit during the war but everyone's attention was with the war, so they didn't care as much. As soon as the war ended, everyone was like "oh my God, look at the economy." Then came the taxes. Poor elder Bush's reign was over.
Enter the youngin' Bush Jr. Rather than say like father "no new taxes" (cuz there will always be new taxes), he decided to better it, a tax cut. As he blazes across the Golden state blaming Democrats for the economy's problems (cuz he didn't get as high a tax cut as he wanted), he is getting the highest rating in Presidential history -- because of another war.
I think he learned well not to make his fathers mistake, he won't end the war, he needs it since the economy is going south and to win the 2004 election. But how the hell was he supposed to know that we'd be attacked and it would cost so much making the tax cut bring us back into a deficit?
It was planned that way. Some of you still don't realize how a dead president is way more important than a living person. To a capitalist nation like USA, billions of dollars are more important than a few thousand Americans. Bush Sr. let the war end, he lost to Clinton; little youngin' has scapegoated Clinton for his fathers ills and claims he isn't father like son. Bush needed this whole thing to happen, you guys remember how much everybody was making fun of his intellect, or lack there of? How he was interviewed before the election and he didn't know where some well-known countries were?
War keeps your mind from thinking because you are too busy being patriotic (pure emotion) -- and that is what Bush intends to use to get a 80% landslide victory at the 2004 polls, chads or not.
Bin Laden is either dead or captured, if he is alive it is better still, this administration is going to purposely let him get away just so he can build up his forces to plot another attack. More attacks, more war, more patriotism, and every law Bush Jr. ever wanted will be passed.
If not war, what's he going to do for 3 years, defend his tax cut that put us into this economic slump in the first place? He'll lose the election if people start paying attention to the economy! He's got to convince everyone that he's a good guy and this war is the only thing he got going right now. Four months in and his ratings are still high.
But then these are my observations, yours may differ.
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L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 28959 posts, RR: 66 Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 711 times:
Boy it must really be eating you two up that we have competent leadership in the white house now.
Something that was lacking for the eight previous years.
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L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 28959 posts, RR: 66 Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 706 times:
It's late for me???
I would point out that it is an hour later where you are at....CA right?
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Lehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 25 Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 703 times:
LOL...Superfly you are sumpin' else, man! Mama, Papa and Baby Bear; gosh, where's goldielocks?
L-188: of course something was lacking, communication between Clinton and the CIA. Keep in mind that despite being a democrat, Clinton was from the south too, why else did we have so many mergers in the last eight years, he had some *cough* republican flavor in him. A real democrat would be from Maine or California or Washington for example.
A texan President is about as republican as you can get, well beyond Rush Limbaugh (sp?).
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L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 28959 posts, RR: 66 Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 697 times:
Lehpron:A texan President is about as republican as you can get I wasn't aware that Lyndon Johnson was a republican.
Superfly: I work nights.
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Lehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 25 Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 692 times:
uh, replace "president" with "republican" and it'll make more sence.
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L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 28959 posts, RR: 66 Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 689 times:
I think it went over you head Lehpron
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Lehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 25 Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 687 times:
Superfly you are so nasty with that first pic! I don't know why I've haven't yet, dude you're on my list!
I have to admit, those little Bushettes are hot!
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Lehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 25 Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 681 times:
I get it, wholesome conservative southern family in-breed lovin!
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Lehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 25 Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 669 times:
I wonder what will happen in a few hours when the self-proclaimed patriots get in here? Oh well.
Seriously you guys, what are your thoughts about Bush's thang? I'm going to try to get some rest now and see ya'll in like say 12 hours, okay?
Cooly.
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Aloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 651 times:
If you guys are saying that 9/11 was a conspiracy, I don't believe it one bit. Now if you are saying GWB isn't all there, well, hehe, that's another story.
Nah I like him, but I'm not sure whether in the 2004 election I'll vote for him or not, sure he has my approval, but I'm not biased towards him. I do wonder what would have happened if Gore had won the 2000 election, what do you guys think would have been different? Personally I wonder if Gore would have had a shave in the aftermath.
JetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 15 Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 639 times:
I don't think anyone is saying conspiracy (at least I hope not). I'm getting that Lehpron feels the war was convenient or well-timed for GWB, otherwise the economy would be noticed. Actually, I think the economy is noticed and surprisingly, a USA Today poll indicated that slightly more blamed Clinton for the recession rather than Bush. It was something like 44% to 36%. But my point is, people see the economy, they just don't feel GW came in and turned things upside down like you boys want to believe. Besides, one could argue a good economy kept Clinton's numbers up despite his sliminess, just like the war keeps Bush's numbers up despite this lack of intellect you claim. Same thing, different version. But Clinton's sliminess was well proven, while Bush's lack of intellegence is still largely rhetoric and unproven (and I'm talking REAL proof, none of this botch a word BS). I don't buy into the fact that the Bush admin would keep the war going for any other reason than to meet its broad objectives. That aside, 2004 is pretty far away and the economy will hurt GW if its still down by then. Not so much because he caused it, but because he didn't fix it. I hope it is turned around much sooner then that. I'm sure you guys hope so, too, even if it does mean 4 more years for Bush....right?
Aloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 638 times:
Oh ok, bit of a misunderrstanding.
MY own opinion of Bush is that he's more like a common man. Usually a president, in my own opinion, seems very prestigious, important, above everyone else. But bush seems like a guy that you coudl talk to on the street, he seems more normal and not unlike the rest of us, so I dont think that he's lacking in intellect (it's fun to joke about it though ) but rather think that he's just a bit like the rest of us, for that I like him.
But I wont dive into political discussions too deep, they alwauys erupt in fights. I'm a fence sitter actually whatever looks good to me is what I go with but I'm open to new ideas.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 28959 posts, RR: 66 Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 634 times:
That USAtoday poll shows that the public realizes that the recession started in the last months of the Clinton Administration.
GW is just faced with cleaning up the mess and restarting it.
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25 Cfalk: Superfly, Lehpron, You guys need a little primer in economics. But then again, I expect that even if you had a doctrate your blind partisan stance wou
26 EWRvirgin: I don't think the tax cuts had anything to do with the economy souring. It was heading south even before Bush took office. Bush's tax cuts are just a
27 Donder10: Bush had the right idea with the tax cutes as the economy was cooling.However can someone please show me a reliable site showing that the US' GDP has
28 JetService: Donder, right. There is a difference. The GDP didn't fall under Clinton, but the growth of the GDP was declining rapidly in the last year of his term.
29 Superfly: Cfalk: So with that said, should Reagan take credit for the economic boom of the 1980s or should Jimmy Carter? You also claim that the anti-Clinton vo
30 Alpha 1: A few points in rebuttal-from someone who didn't vote for either Bush: Elder Bush proclaimed "no new taxes", the whole time the Gulf War went on, he h
31 JetService: Superfly, of course the voters elected Bush!!! Here is a detailed map!!!!
33 Superfly: JetService: Land area means nothing. Votes do. Gore: 50,996,116 Bush: 50,456,169
34 Heavymetal: I remain satisfied with the President's actions since September 11th. I just don't like the raging hypocrisy that nests itself daily in his wing of Am
35 Pilot1113: I can't believe that we're still debating the 2000 elections! I thought that was already decided... I think some people are still a little bitter that
36 Superfly: Pilot1113: I hope you didn't put a Bush/Cheney bumperstcker on that beautiful Buick Roadmaster stationwagon!
37 Aloha 737-200: I will say that I do like Bush, granted I was rooting for Gore before the 2000 elections, but yes, GWB has impressed me as a president, he just seems
38 Alpha 1: JetService: Land area means nothing. Votes do. Gore: 50,996,116 Bush: 50,456,169 Superfly, as a Gore supporter (me, that is), your staticstics mean no
39 Superfly: Alph: I've been over it. I just had to point something out.
40 Lehpron: I don't see how you guys can squarely blame Clinton, he is the executive part of government -- he cannot make laws or set things in motion alone. The
41 JetService: I just had to point something out. Me too! Superfly, if you look at that map closely, you'll see your home county was one of a few in Indiana that wen
42 Superfly: JetService: Funny, very funny! In Gary or Lake County we think of the rest of the state as being weird or backwards. I think the entire state includin
43 Alpha 1: ) Wasn't Saddam Hussien (sp?) a creation of the CIA and wasn't the only real reason that we even went to the Middle East was so he wouldn't have taken
44 Alpha 1: Alph: I've been over it. I just had to point something out. Point out something we don't know then. You've been whining over the election for over a y
45 Superfly: Alpha1: Don't even start with me! You are the biggest crybaby in these forums and you know it!
46 Alpha 1: LOL, nice try Superfly, but your constant whining over an election that took place 14 months ago has really gotten old. I'm beginning to think that yo
47 Superfly: Alpha1: The topic is about the Bushes. His election/selection is a major part of his political career. It will never be forgotten. 90% approval rating
48 Alpha 1: Alpha1: The topic is about the Bushes. His election/selection is a major part of his political career. It will never be forgotten. 90% approval rating
49 Superfly: Alpha1: You just love having the last word, don't you crybaby?
50 Pilot1113: >>I hope you didn't put a Bush/Cheney bumperstcker on that beautiful Buick Roadmaster stationwagon! If you're insinuating that I desecrated my Buick b
51 Superfly: Pilot1113: BTW... how did you know what vehicle I drove? I am close friends with the man who invented the internet (Al Gore), so I know everything! Ju
52 Pilot1113: Ah.. yes, I remember that thread now! You have a better memory than I do! - Neil Harrison
53 Lehpron: In other words, what the hell is wrong with protecting our economic interests in the area? The only thing I don't like is that Sr Bush didn't use tha
54 Cfalk: "watch this Enron deal closely. If proven to have gone all the way to Pres. Bush Jr., it'll be bigger than the Watergate matter because that involved
55 Pilot1113: Ah... the voice of reason, from Switzerland no less!
56 SSTjumbo: At least Bush's speaches aren't restricted to smooth jazz stations.
57 Lehpron: If it is no big deal then why were they the biggest contributor to Bush-Cheney 2000? Most folks don't care really, but it is just that Bush (Sr./Jr.)
58 LH423: All I have to say on the matter of the election, is that I'm proud to come from one of only three states to have had every county vote have a Gore maj
59 LOT767-300ER: I hope that Roadmaster still runs! You know what Gore wrote in his book! --It is a bad idea to have any car larger than a Explorer.-- So if you like b
60 Superfly: LOT767-300ER: Gore really said that? The Explorer is not a car, it's a truck/SUV.
61 LH423: Eh, I'd probably believe that Gore said that. He's a very proper environmentalist, which would see Superfly's gas guzzlers go the way of any thought o
62 Superfly: I'd probably believe that Gore said that No wonder why I voted for Bill Bradley in the primaries.
63 Lehpron: Ever notice how McCain seems somewhat democratic?
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