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Just Got Stopped For Speeding (CA).  
User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2456 times:

It was my friend.

Heres the info:

2000 Honda Accord
79MPH in a 55MPH Zone
He is a minor
First Ever Ticket
Vehicle Code was 22349(b) INFRACTION (one pointer)

This happened in Santa Barbara County, CA.

How much do you think the fine will be?


"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
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User currently offlineAA787823 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2445 times:

From what I remember it will be $12 for every mph over the speed limit then a penalty assessment of 50% on top of that so... around $430 or so.....but it has been a long time since I got busted.

User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2439 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Thread starter):
How much do you think the fine will be?

Well, let's look at the mitigating factors, shall we?......

Quoting Boston92 (Thread starter):
79MPH in a 55MPH Zone

Uh oh, where's the fire?

Quoting Boston92 (Thread starter):
He is a minor

Minor? What difference does that make? Did he have a license? He's still held to the same standards of law.

Quoting Boston92 (Thread starter):
First Ever Ticket

Since it's his first ticket we'll go easy on him. How about 3 days in jail? No excuse whatsoever for 79 in a 55, that's just plain asking for it.


User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3387 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2439 times:

I think your friend should sue the police deptartment for stopping you.

Warmest Regards,

Josh Hancock's father

In all seriousness shouldn't they tell you what the fine is when issuing the ticket.



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

Quoting Queso (Reply 2):
Minor? What difference does that make?

The CHP told him that Juvenile Court handled it.

Quoting Queso (Reply 2):
Since it's his first ticket we'll go easy on him. How about 3 days in jail? No excuse whatsoever for 79 in a 55, that's just plain asking for it.

No need to be a jerk... if you are angry, there is a great deal for a punching bag at Sports Authority.

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 3):
In all seriousness shouldn't they tell you what the fine is when issuing the ticket

Thats not how it works... they issue a "notice to appear" and then send you the actual ticket in the mail.



"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
User currently offlineRichPhitzwell From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2411 times:

Isn't that speed difference a felony? At least the urban legand in my head said anything over 20% or some other % is a felony.... Cops?

User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2409 times:

"Sir do you know how fast you were going?"

"Sir, do you know how many donuts you've had today?"

That's kind of excessive speed your friends got going there.

Cheers
Carson



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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3788 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2399 times:

Somebody told me once that 10 or more over is wreckless operation...is that right?

DeltaRules



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2399 times:

Quoting RichPhitzwell (Reply 5):
Isn't that speed difference a felony? At least the urban legand in my head said anything over 20% or some other % is a felony.... Cops?

No. Not even a misdemeanor. Just an infraction. In CA, VC 22349B is exceeding 55 on an undivided highway. One pointer. 22348 is exceeding 100 MPH which is still only an infraction. Reckless driving is a misdemeanor which does not really have much constitute on speed, but you actually endangering someone or yourself.



"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 7):
Somebody told me once that 10 or more over is wreckless operation...is that right?

No... I guess I should have started out to explain that CA is MUCH different than any other state and people are clocked at 100MPH every day and it is only a speed infraction, no reckless driving/operation.



"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
User currently offlineRichPhitzwell From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 8):
No. Not even a misdemeanor. Just an infraction. In CA, VC 22349B is exceeding 55 on an undivided highway. One pointer. 22348 is exceeding 100 MPH which is still only an infraction. Reckless driving is a misdemeanor which does not really have much constitute on speed, but you actually endangering someone or yourself.

Thank you for clarifying sir.
Even if the ticket will be somewhat cheep...the insurance becomes a bitch overtime, or so Ive been told.


User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

Quoting RichPhitzwell (Reply 10):
Thank you for clarifying sir.
Even if the ticket will be somewhat cheep...the insurance becomes a bitch overtime, or so Ive been told.

Traffic School should take care of that though.



"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8683 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2372 times:

Maybe the court will lower the price of the ticket. But at least it isn't anything major like a wreck. Hope he doesnt get grounded by his parents.

Hunter



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 12):
Maybe the court will lower the price of the ticket. But at least it isn't anything major like a wreck. Hope he doesnt get grounded by his parents.

I am the uncle, he is allowed to drive to/from school. Not that bad of a punishment. If I was that young and got a speeding ticket, I would like to stay off the roads as much as I could anyways.



"Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?"
User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

Quoting Queso (Reply 2):

Minor? What difference does that make? Did he have a license? He's still held to the same standards of law.

Junior licenses may have additional penalties applied to them.

Quoting RichPhitzwell (Reply 5):
Isn't that speed difference a felony? At least the urban legand in my head said anything over 20% or some other % is a felony.... Cops?

I know of someone who was doing over double the speed limit and he didn't get anything except two or three points and maybe a $150 fine.

---

I'd really recommend your friend "fighting" the speeding ticket. If he gets points, his insurance will go up drastically.

http://www.motorists.org/issues/tick...cket_fighting_info_strategies.html
http://www.expertlaw.com/library/traffic_tickets/fighting_tickets.html

I didn't use that, but they will at least pay for your ticket if you lose - and its only $17. Also, if your friend knows any lawyers/police officers, give them a call ASAP. Sometimes they'll be able to speak to the officer and negotiate the violation down. Even if you don't know a lawyer, it may actually be worth hiring one rather then paying the ~ $150 ticket and probably the few thousand in elevated insurance premiums.

For example, if you're pulled over in PA (not sure how it works in other states), you can get two violations. One is speeding and your penalty is dependent upon how fast you were going over the speed limit. The other is called "failure to obey traffic control devices." Since this isn't a moving violation, there are no points attached this. This means (in PA, at least), your insurance company won't find out. Plus, the fine is only about $110.

How was the weather? Night or day? Was your friend wearing his seatbelt? Were there any other people in the car? Were they wearing their seatbelt? Was there a lot of traffic? Was he respectful?

If all of the answers to that are good, it might be a good idea to fight it. Here (once again, in PA at least), magistrates have a reputation for reducing/eliminating charges for anyone willing to show up to court for a half an hour.


User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 9):
CA is MUCH different than any other state and people are clocked at 100MPH every day and it is only a speed infraction, no reckless driving/operation.

That is awesome.

Anyway about your friend, if he really does not want to the ticket or have it on his record he can always get a traffic ticket lawyer and take the fine to court. I have a friend who got 120mph in a 55mph zone and wreck less but it was dropped to a 10mph over ticket by having a good traffic lawyer and he but he also spent $1500 on it but that better than have wreck less driving on your record.. Here in South Florida there is a thing called Ticket Clinic which gets rid of your tickets and off your record most of the time. 79 in a 55 is not horrible so a lawyer or something like Ticket Clinic should work. Tell him to look into that too.



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

First offense, both your friend and one of his parents will have to go to traffic court held at Juvenile Court, and he will be directed to attend traffic school. Not sure if its the same with juvenile's or not, when I last worked the cost of traffic school was the same as paying the ticket, of course the advantage is no citation on his record which would send his insurance rates into outer space. Fine depends on the county so Santa Barbara could be more than lets say San Diego County.

User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2299 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Thread starter):
Just Got Stopped For Speeding



Quoting Boston92 (Thread starter):
It was my friend.



Quoting Boston92 (Reply 13):
I am the uncle



Quoting Boston92 (Reply 13):
Age: 21-25

hmm
 scratchchin 


User currently offlineDon81603 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 1185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2283 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Thread starter):
How much do you think the fine will be?

My speeding ticket in CA (7 years ago) was for 70 in a 55. $271.00 Worked for free that day  Sad



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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 4):
Quoting Queso (Reply 2):
Since it's his first ticket we'll go easy on him. How about 3 days in jail? No excuse whatsoever for 79 in a 55, that's just plain asking for it.

No need to be a jerk... if you are angry, there is a great deal for a punching bag at Sports Authority.

For being almost 30mph over the limit that is hardly being a jerk, that is being practical. In some states they call that "reckless operation" and would have (should have) arrested him for going that fast. Your friend is incredibly irresponsible.

Pay the fine, in most states they don't let you do defensive driving for more than 20 over. You can take it to court though and hope the cop doesn't show up. However, if it was a bigger department don't count on it. Chances are they have a traffic division and the officer in question was part of it- so it is his mission in life to show up and make sure that ticket sticks.


User currently offlineDrDeke From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 830 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2271 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 4):

No need to be a jerk... if you are angry, there is a great deal for a punching bag at Sports Authority.

That's true, but it's obligatory to rage on the poster of any thread in Non-Av that involves a dispute between them and the police.  bouncy 

DrDeke



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 9):
No... I guess I should have started out to explain that CA is MUCH different than any other state and people are clocked at 100MPH every day and it is only a speed infraction, no reckless driving/operation.

I soooooo miss driving in Southen CA....  Sad

Driving in Northern Ohio sucks. Southern Ohio is mildly tolerable.

Lincoln
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User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Thread starter):
This happened in Santa Barbara County, CA.

How much do you think the fine will be?

Cali (from my experience) - hardly any cops to be seen on Highway 101, but when people get pulled over (and, thankfully, I haven't), the fine stinks (well, it does anywhere, so).

Quoting Queso (Reply 2):
No excuse whatsoever for 79 in a 55, that's just plain asking for it.

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Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 17):
Quoting Boston92 (Thread starter):
It was my friend.



Quoting Boston92 (Reply 13):
I am the uncle



Quoting Boston92 (Reply 13):
Age: 21-25

That is funky. So, Bos, what did you say to the cops when they pulled you over?  silly 

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 19):
in most states they don't let you do defensive driving for more than 20 over.

That's usually the case from what I know - 20 and over and your penalties skyrocket as opposed to a speeding violation under 20 mph.

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 21):
Driving in Northern Ohio sucks

Yeah, Ohio stinks period - those cops drool over attempts to make a stop.  drool  It's one thing to enjoy your job, guys, but it's like they all get vinegar in their cereal before work.

-R


User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2173 times:

Just out of curiosity, where was your nephew, the 101? The reason I ask, my cousin's son was on the 101 back in 2000 and he got pulled for just about the same thing, an 18 yr old at that. That episode ran about $350 and he had his license pulled for 6 months- by my cousin. He hasn't had a ticket since.  Wink


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

Quoting DrDeke (Reply 20):
but it's obligatory to rage on the poster of any thread in Non-Av that involves a dispute between them and the police.

Guess that explains why you're always raggin' my ass, eh DOc?  wink  laughing 

Quoting AirCop (Reply 16):
First offense, both your friend and one of his parents will have to go to traffic court held at Juvenile Court, and he will be directed to attend traffic school. Not sure if its the same with juvenile's or not, when I last worked the cost of traffic school was the same as paying the ticket, of course the advantage is no citation on his record which would send his insurance rates into outer space. Fine depends on the county so Santa Barbara could be more than lets say San Diego County.

Listen to the CHP Officer here folks . . . .


25 Boston92 : I am 24, I did not get pulled over. It is my half-brothers son. Because of our close age difference, I always refer to him as my friend and not nephe
26 Boston92 : I just went on to SB Countys website, typed in his DL number and the fine came to 217.50. Then traffic school to a grand total of $255.55. Thanks to a
27 TZ757300 : Ha, juveniles here have to go to court with the officer, plead their case, and sisnce usually the ticket still stands, the fines still get paid. Wish
28 Post contains images ShyFlyer : My first, and only, speeding ticket was for much the same situation, though I was only doing 75 in a 55. At that time (1996) the fine for such a stup
29 Boston92 : We all go that speed sometimes. I do it... but not knowingly. The highway where he was stopped (246) can be very empty at times and there is a very l
30 Post contains images Queso : Wrong. You're trying to make this crime go away by saying everybody does it. I don't drive 24mph over the speed limit and anyone who has any measure
31 Post contains images Boston92 : Oh... You are perfect. Sorry. I do not drive drunk ever because I don't get drunk ever. And there is a difference. You do not have to remind me that
32 Queso : If 79 MPH was SAFE and LEGAL where he was at, he WOULD HAVE seen one of those. Are you telling me 79 MPH is safe on an urban neighborhood surface str
33 ACDC8 : Everyone should be given a speeding ticket if they have been caught speeding, no exceptions and this bloody well includes fellow police officers. Pers
34 Mham001 : Oh yes indeed, you can get a reckless for excessive speed. It is at the discretion of the officer and there was recently a newspaper article about th
35 Boston92 : Are you kidding me??? So you do make mistakes... Next time you do, could you tell me so I can give you a lecture on how badly you need a healthy dose
36 Boston92 : He was not on 101 and there was not a congested area. Just the opposite. He was in the middle of the damn desert. You know long 10 mile stretches of
37 Mham001 : My condolences then. I also mixed up San Lois Obispo County. Maybe he should buy good a radar detector. Still not an accident though.
38 F9Widebody : I could understand using the hill as an excuse if you got caught at the bottom of the hill....but caught at the crest? That would mean that were it f
39 AsstChiefMark : Ummm... Not me. Maybe he'd like to trade his speeding ticket for one for inattentive driving. And that's the reason for penalties when breaking the l
40 Boston92 : I think that going up the hill, you lose some speed, so you accelerate harder, and once you are at the crest, and you start going back downhill, you
41 Boston92 : Do you have a point... I started the thread to ask how much the ticket would be... not to start arguments. I agree 100% that he deserves the ticket.
42 Jetstar : In Connecticut, 20 or more MPH above the posted peed limit is considered reckless driving and automatically gets you a mandatory appearance before a j
43 Boston92 : I have lived in New England, and it is so much easier to speed in CA because of the long straight roads that are very deserted.
44 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : Yep.
45 Futurecaptain : Cruise control. Set it for the speed limit and watch the road.
46 Boston92 : That is exctly what I do on roads like these.
47 Captoveur : Those are in the middle of nowhere where there is nothing to hit- barely even other cars. I am betting where you were going well over the speed limit
48 Boston92 : Did you read all the posts, he was pulled over in the middle of nowhere on a long 10 mile stretch of straight-away. On these roads, it is so easy to
49 BigOrange : Forget the lawyer. He should just plead not guilty, show up himself for the hearing and talk to the prosecutor/DA who will offer him a deal to lower
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