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School: 1977 Vs 2007 In The USA  
User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2666 times:

SCHOOL 1977 vs 2007
Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1977 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.
Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1977 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2007 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.
Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1977 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2007 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.
Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1977 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2007 - Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.
Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1977 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.
Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.
1977 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2007 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1977 - Ants die.
2007 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.
Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1977 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

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User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2658 times:

Sadly, it's a pretty accurate reflection of today's common-sense-less society.

User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2650 times:

Same thing with this asshole lawyer who decided that if he wasn't expressly forbidden from travelling with a fatal and infectious lung disease that it'd be someone elses fault that he travelled and exposed dozens if not hundreds of people to his disease.

I'll bet he sues the CDC for not quarantining him early...how dare they merely ask him not to travel.

I am not happy about PI lawyers right about now.



Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2650 times:

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1977 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

You forgot the $250,000 lawsuit  Wink But yeh, It's all pretty accurate.



Religion is an illusion of childhood... Outgrown under proper education.
User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2625 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 2):
I am not happy about PI lawyers right about now.

And his lawyer father echoing the times with claims that his son is being treated like a terrorist...  Yeah sure

[Edited 2007-06-01 22:42:02]

User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2623 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 2):
I am not happy about PI lawyers right about now.

They are indeed one of life's lowest forms.


User currently offlineAllegiantAir From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1733 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2607 times:

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1977 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Wow, that's sad how everything has changed in the last 30 years. But that's pretty accurate, I can see everything that you said happening.



Live to Fly.
User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2597 times:

Everything he has said is true, things would be a lot better if we do back to our earlier beliefs and values.


"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" Samuel Johnson
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17784 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2594 times:

Quoting AllegiantAir (Reply 6):
everything has changed in the last 30 years.

Everything except for student performance Yeah sure



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2587 times:

It's not accurate at all. It's some shit somebody made up. I agree it's funny, but not exactly a reflection of reality.


"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3086 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2551 times:

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 9):
It's not accurate at all.

Have you been living under a rock for the past ten years or what? I can easily recall instances on the news when I heard about things like this happening. Furthermore, I compare that with my dads stories throughout high school and college, and it is all very true. Sad and pathetic, but true.

However, I'd be willing to bet there are still some rural cities and counties throughout the middle belt and deep south that still "live in 1977." Thankfully.



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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2542 times:

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 10):
However, I'd be willing to bet there are still some rural cities and counties throughout the middle belt and deep south that still "live in 1977." Thankfully.

Well, we can't have that now can we?. We'll just have to drag them kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2534 times:

Could someone explain this for me. I do not understand this.

Hunter



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 12):

It's comparing how stuff was dealt with in 1977 and now... 2007. In 1977 it was nobody's fault but your own... nowadays there is always somebody else to blame  grumpy 



Religion is an illusion of childhood... Outgrown under proper education.
User currently offlineDucatiRacer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1977 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers

Interestingly, the 1977 scenario was still the case at my Arkansas high school when I was there in 1989. I recall many days during deer season when several guys on campus would be in their bright orange thermal overalls in class, having gone hunting in the wee hours of the morning before school.

Sadly, the 2007 scenario is now the case there as well.


User currently offlineElpinDAB From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 485 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

Quoting DucatiRacer (Reply 14):
Interestingly, the 1977 scenario was still the case at my Arkansas high school when I was there in 1989. I recall many days during deer season when several guys on campus would be in their bright orange thermal overalls in class, having gone hunting in the wee hours of the morning before school.

Arkansas boy here too...only in Arkansas would this be accepted lol. You'd have a better chance pulling it off there than anywhere else.




The world needs change though...so much ignorance


User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3814 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2463 times:

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1977 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.
Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.

The sad thing about this is that it's true. I remember hearing about a girl who gave her inhaler to a classmate suffering from an asthma attack. She saved the kid's life.

Her reward? Expulsion for a drug violation.



Let's Kick the Tires & Light the Fires!!
User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 13):

It's comparing how stuff was dealt with in 1977 and now... 2007. In 1977 it was nobody's fault but your own... nowadays there is always somebody else to blame

Very true. Today that is usualy the case unless you are very honest.

Cheers,

Hunter



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 10):
Quoting LHMARK (Reply 9):
It's not accurate at all.

Have you been living under a rock for the past ten years or what?

I know. I got three detentions earlier this year because heaven forbid I have a bottle of Aspirin in my locker for headaches. School tried to suspend me, but it failed, so I just got another detention.

WTF is up with school's these days?

piercey in CLE  Sad



Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2414 times:

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 10):
Have you been living under a rock for the past ten years or what? I can easily recall instances on the news when I heard about things like this happening. Furthermore, I compare that with my dads stories throughout high school and college, and it is all very true. Sad and pathetic, but true.

Yeah, you'll hear about a sensationalistic incident or two, but 200 million kids are in school everyday, and mostly it's business as usual.

The stuff in the post is made up. It just is. That's somebody extrapolating on shit. It is not a factual representation of what goes on in schools. It is a humor post.



"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3086 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 19):
200 million kids are in school everyday

By mention of the FBI and ACLU, it is easily assumed the post is in reference to American schools. Being so, you and I both know that 2/3 of our nation are not "kids" in school. Furthermore, while it's true business goes on as usual (normalcy), each time there is an incident mentioned above, the reactions are pretty much spot on.

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 19):
The stuff in the post is made up. It just is. That's somebody extrapolating on shit. It is not a factual representation of what goes on in schools. It is a humor post.

It is and it isn't. It's made up in the sense that it is not completely and totally factual. It's true however that there have been such incidents, and the reactions of 2007 would have been unheard of in 1977.

It only sheds humor on a sad truth regarding this nation.

[Edited 2007-06-02 09:44:38]


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User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 9):
It's not accurate at all. It's some shit somebody made up. I agree it's funny, but not exactly a reflection of reality.

You can say that all you want but I can DAMNED well promise you this much is true:

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1977 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.


User currently offlineNancy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 467 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

Quoting Queso (Reply 21):
You can say that all you want but I can DAMNED well promise you this much is true:

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1977 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.


Please , please provide a link that shows that the FBI was called in and students were provided with extra counselors because someone brought a gun the parking lot and didn't threaten anyone. This is pure hyperbole on both ends of the spectrum. Actually, since you are "DAMNED well promising" it show me a school board policy that states that the above will happen.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2312 times:

Quoting Nancy (Reply 22):
Please , please provide a link that shows that the FBI was called in and students were provided with extra counselors because someone brought a gun the parking lot and didn't threaten anyone. This is pure hyperbole on both ends of the spectrum. Actually, since you are "DAMNED well promising" it show me a school board policy that states that the above will happen.

Do you remember when that F-16 put a string of twenty mike mike through that school in New Jersey? Thankfully it was on a weekend.

But the school was very careful to have all the shot up desks removed and shrinks available by that monday.

In 1977 if a F-16 had strafed my school, my first thought would have been......COOL!



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2304 times:

Quoting Nancy (Reply 22):
Please , please provide a link that shows that the FBI was called in

According to this (take it for what it's worth - considering its wikipedia) Since it's a federal crime, I imagine the FBI would have to be called in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun-Free_School_Zones_Act

Quoting Nancy (Reply 22):
and students were provided with extra counselors

Counselors are available to students for the least little thing. Someone bringing a gun to school doesn't qualify? I'm sure one student out of however many there are would find guns so totally bad, that they would have to tell someone how they feel about it.

In my dad's day, they had target shooting classes as extra curricular activities. Students would bring them to school, and keep them in their lockers or whatever they had.

[Edited 2007-06-03 00:48:16]


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25 ACDC8 : I find it a very accurate (and depressing) view of today's society. I've long believed that our lives and decisions are controlled by psychologists co
26 Queso : Signed, Hillary Clinton
27 Post contains images NWA742 : Look, whether or not the individual situations are 100% true is irrelevant - the overall point that it makes it very much true, and it's one of sever
28 TZ757300 : Here is an example that happened last year... 1977- One student says Merry Christmas to a teacher or student, the teacher or student replies back with
29 NWA742 : Proof we will end ourselves as a species because of our own stupidity. -NWA742
30 LHMARK : Guys, go ahead and make up whatever you want, then say it justifies an asinine sentiment. How many school districts could function under the constant
31 TZ757300 : Umm...ours can and has been running like that for years. We are always under constant scrutiny by everyone. Oh really, why don't you go ask the girl
32 NWA742 : That's the whole point. The only way they can function under this constant threat is by acting in the most PC way possible - and that includes overea
33 Post contains images Piercey : You HAVE been hiding under a rock, have you? piercey in CLE
34 AGM100 : Coaching my daugters softball team last night. We have a girl on out team who is un usually spolied and is just a big pain in the *** . She is a 11 ye
35 Post contains images Piercey : There should be a license for parenting.... piercey in CLE
36 Go3Team : Are they at least, still taking score?
37 Trav110 : Accurate? Some are, but some are way off. Calling the SWAT team for a fight? Bull. Same with the fireworks and the ant pile - hell, I did that just la
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