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Movies You Wish That Were Not Edited.  
User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8673 posts, RR: 15
Posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1742 times:

Hello, do you wish there movies that were not edited for various reasons? I bought The Breakfast Club at Target found out it was edited. Some others include American Pie series, Tears of the Sun.

Hunter


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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Thread starter):
I bought The Breakfast Club at Target found out it was edited. Some others include American Pie series, Tears of the Sun.

Why on earth would anyone edit those movies??? It's not like its extreme violence or anything like that.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8673 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

Quoting Agill (Reply 1):

Why on earth would anyone edit those movies??? It's not like its extreme violence or anything like that.

Just ask Walmart. They edit nearly every movie.

Hunter



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 2):
Just ask Walmart. They edit nearly every movie.

 Confused Sorry, I've never heard of any "edited" versions of DVD's for sale. Perhaps you're confusing this with the rated and unrated versions of some movies?



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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
Sorry, I've never heard of any "edited" versions of DVD's for sale. Perhaps you're confusing this with the rated and unrated versions of some movies?

Or maybe he thinks Wal-Mart is the one who does the production editing, opposed to the producer. No, buddy. The DVD that you buy at Target or Wal-Mart is the same exact thing that they showed in the theaters.



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User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1691 times:

Got to state the obvious....

.... Star Wars

The original three not those new prequels. Gredo did NOT shoot first dammit!!!

Of course the CG graphics really did look cool but they ruined it by adding in a crap lazer gun shot (so Han Solo was no longer a 'bad' guy) and then editing in the guy who played Anekin Skywalker, although he clearly looks uncomfortable in those shots.

Phil
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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 4):
The DVD that you buy at Target or Wal-Mart is the same exact thing that they showed in the theaters.

Not necessarily true. There are some cases where they do alter or change a few things on the DVD as opposed to the theatre. An outdated but classic example was the Octopus scene in "The Goonies" , it was played in the theatre but omitted on the VHS version, only to re-appear once again on the DVD.



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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1684 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 6):
Not necessarily true. There are some cases where they do alter or change a few things on the DVD as opposed to the theatre. An outdated but classic example was the Octopus scene in "The Goonies" , it was played in the theatre but omitted on the VHS version, only to re-appear once again on the DVD.

Correct. But in the sense of the editing that MCOflyer is presumably talking about, scene take-outs or add-ins don't apply.



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1681 times:

Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 7):
Correct. But in the sense of the editing that MCOflyer is presumably talking about, scene take-outs or add-ins don't apply.

Agreed, I'm assuming he means editing for violence, nudity, language, etc. Which I've never heard of, with the exception of rated and unrated versions of movies.



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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 2):
Just ask Walmart. They edit nearly every movie.

What on earth are you talking about?



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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1672 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 8):
Agreed, I'm assuming he means editing for violence, nudity, language, etc. Which I've never heard of, with the exception of rated and unrated versions of movies.

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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

I've heard of online sources such as Cleanflicks and such, but I've never heard of a department store being able to sell these movies.


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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 11):
I've heard of online sources such as Cleanflicks and such, but I've never heard of a department store being able to sell these movies.

No, plus, the stores cannot legally edit the movie, because of copyrights. They wouldn't do it anyway; it'd take way too much time and effort on their behalf.

edit: wording

[Edited 2007-06-03 00:42:56]


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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 12):
No, plus, the stores cannot legally edit the movie, because of copyrights. They wouldn't do it anyway; it'd take way too much time and effort on their behalf.

Plus, I've never heard of the movie studios/production studios making various versions of movies.



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User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

One of the main reasons I try to avoid shopping at Walmart is their censorship. They ask authors and musicians to edit material that they find objectional. With an 15+% share in cd sales, most artists comply for the money.

BTW I saw the director's cut of Blade Runner and like it much better than the theater cut.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1642 times:

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 14):

One of the main reasons I try to avoid shopping at Walmart is their censorship. They ask authors and musicians to edit material that they find objectional. With an 15+% share in cd sales, most artists comply for the money.

Could your provide a link to this? I've never heard of this and would be interesting to read if true.



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User currently offlinePhotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2731 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

It's one of the reasons I also look to find the Director's Cut of any movie I'm interested in purchasing. The DC of "Dances With Wolves" is awesome compared to the theatrical release.

It's the same way I want the full Wide Screen version of the film and not the cropped scan and pan that fits a regular tv. I want to see ALL of what the camera saw.


User currently offlineWalter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

I wish the Girls Gone Wild commercials on TV weren't edited.  yes 


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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1608 times:

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 17):
I wish the Girls Gone Wild commercials on TV weren't edited.

 biggrin 

I was waiting for that one.



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8673 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1606 times:

Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 7):

Correct. But in the sense of the editing that MCOflyer is presumably talking about, scene take-outs or add-ins don't apply.

USA showed the Breakfast club, and the scene where everyone sneaks by Vernon in the faculty lounge isn't on the DVD. Why?

DeltaAVL,

You are correct. Could you explain why people do this.

Hunter



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User currently offlineCaptainJon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1599 times:

Isn't this illegal? I remember not too long ago, a company was selling edited DVDs for wholesome family goodness and were sued by the MPAA for altering copyrighted material. I do not know if Walmart received permission to do any sort of editing, but does the disc itself label itself as edited?

I find any sort of editing to be annoying especially on the telly.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1597 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 19):
USA showed the Breakfast club, and the scene where everyone sneaks by Vernon in the faculty lounge isn't on the DVD. Why?

I've never seen The Breakfast Club, did this scene contain anything that some people may have found offensive? Otherwise, I would classify it as one of those mysteries such as the octopus scene in The Goonies.

Quoting CaptainJon (Reply 20):
Isn't this illegal? I remember not too long ago, a company was selling edited DVDs for wholesome family goodness and were sued by the MPAA for altering copyrighted material. I do not know if Walmart received permission to do any sort of editing, but does the disc itself label itself as edited?

I found this article. Never heard of anything like this until this thread.

http://newsnet.byu.edu/story.cfm/64058

EDIT: I forgot to add the link ....  blush 

[Edited 2007-06-03 02:55:50]


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User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1595 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 15):
Could your provide a link to this? I've never heard of this and would be interesting to read if true.

Well here are some books that they refuse to stock.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301336.shtml


Like cancerous cells, adulterated censored CDs are proliferating in Wal-Mart's bins, in many cases without being identified as such.

In some cases, CDs are altered to bleep out "bad" words. For instance, the cover of a White Zombie disc, Supersexy Swingin' Sounds, was cleaned up by airbrushing a bikini onto a nude model reclining in a hammock (even though no naughty bits were visible). A song on the back of Primitive Radio Gods' Rocket CD is identified as "Motherfker" in the aforementioned record store, but as "Mother" at Wal-Mart.

The New York Times also identified creepier instances of corporate power being used to suppress ideas. Wal-Mart won't carry Sheryl Crow's new record because she chides the company for allegedly selling guns to children. The figures of Jesus and the Devil flanking John Mellencamp on the cover of his new record, Mr. Happy-Go-Lucky, are airbrushed out of the copies available at Wal-Mart. Mellancamp reportedly OK'd the change in the interest of record sales.


http://www.metroactive.com/papers/so...a/01.09.97/walmart-music-9702.html

Other times, musicians change their lyrics and song titles. Nirvana, for example, changed its song title from "Rape Me" to "Waif Me" for the Wal-Mart version. They also changed the back-cover artwork for the album In Utero, which Wal-Mart objected to because it portrayed fetuses. And when Sheryl Crow released her self-titled album, Wal-Mart objected to the lyric, "Watch our children as they kill each other with a gun they bought at Wal-Mart discount stores." When Crow would not change the verse, the retailer refused to carry the album. This type of censorship has become so common that it is often regarded as simply another stage of editing. Record labels are now acting preemptively, issuing two versions of the same album for their big name artists. Less well-known bands, however, are forced to offer "sanitized" albums out of the gate.

Magazines don't escape Wal-Mart's "family values" rule, either. Cosmopolitan, Rolling Stone, Vibe and others have been pulled off the shelves because the retailer deemed the covers too provocative. Some magazines willingly send advance copies to big retailers like Wal-Mart for their approval, and will even alter cover artwork to avoid losing sales.


http://www.pbs.org/itvs/storewars/stores3_2.html

http://media.www.vanderbiltorbis.com...Violates.Free.Speech-2471337.shtml

http://www.mindfully.org/Industry/Wal-Mart-CD-Standards12nov96.htm


User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 19):
You are correct. Could you explain why people do this.

You're talking about scene take-outs, right? Well, they do it for many reasons. One is to make the movie shorter. Another is to remove something that would make the rating change. For example, removing a sex scene that would undoubtedly raise the rating to "R", but the company doesn't want the movie to be "R", so they take out that sex scene and it becomes "PG-13".

I think this is what you were asking me about, I apologize if it wasn't.  Smile



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1590 times:

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 22):
Well here are some books that they refuse to stock.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/200...shtml

I read that article earlier today. Must be something concerning to the US stores, the stores in Canada (at least the ones I have been to) still carry many of the things that are mentioned in the article.



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25 MCOflyer : Exactly. Hunter
26 CaptOveur : Maybe I am crazy, but I remember a funny line in Die Hard 3 that seems to have been edited out of my DVD. I ditched my VHS version years ago, but I sw
27 Post contains links AAFLT1871 : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088847/alternateversions
28 MCOflyer : Thx, Where can I buy the un-edited version. I want it bad. I think mine was too. Hunter
29 Post contains images ACDC8 : Just watched it on TV (unedited, thank God for APTN) and that line was in there, so no, you're not crazy! But, this is done by the DVD producer, corr
30 LTBEWR : What I hate is the editing done to make some movies or programs suitable for commercial television standards. Often such editing, although understanda
31 DeltaAVL : Right. Wal-Mart definitely doesn't do it.
32 MCOflyer : Ok, so they contract a DVD producer correct? Thanks for responses. Hunter
33 DeltaAVL : I think that the producer just goes ahead and makes the DVD edit, knowing that stores like Wal-Mart will want it, and then sells that version to a bu
34 MCOflyer : You've been a great help. Welcome to my RU list. Hunter
35 Post contains images DeltaAVL : Happy to help!
36 Post contains links AAFLT1871 : Well they have never released a ultimate cut of the movie that incorporates the T.V scenes added into the feature release. Interesting fact about The
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