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Official 2007 NBA Finals Thread: Spurs-Cavs  
User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2245 posts, RR: 14
Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2365 times:

I'm guessing ABC is relieved they don't have to broadcast another Pistons-Spurs series, which I believe (in 2005) garnered one of the lowest TV ratings in Finals history. The fact that Lebron is in the Finals will boost viewership.

What can I say, the Spurs are boring (great defense, no SportsCenter highlights, no flashy superstar), but they are consistently effective and they bring home championships, and I'll take that any day.

Prediction: Lebron and/or Gibson will get off, but the Spurs will put the Cavs to sleep 4-2.

GO SPURS GO


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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2358 times:

Ooooo, the Spurs and LBJ in the finals, well done Stern, well done.


LY744.



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User currently offlineRJdxer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2356 times:

As in the other thread, the Cleveland Cadavers in the finals? I expect to wake up to the rapture happening any day now. Same question, if LeBron were to go down with an injury in game one, would you still say 4-2? I think it'd be 4-0.

User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2347 times:

Quoting Homer71 (Thread starter):
Prediction: Lebron and/or Gibson will get off, but the Spurs will put the Cavs to sleep 4-2.

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Say all you want about the regular season, my Bulls tried that...

piercey in CLE  Sad



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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2346 times:

Quoting RJdxer (Reply 2):
Same question, if LeBron were to go down with an injury in game one, would you still say 4-2? I think it'd be 4-0.

I fail to see your point about knocking the Cavs beacuse they wouldn't be anything without LeBron. The same could be said about anytime whose best player is far and away their best, let alone someone like LeBron. If you took away MJ, how many of the 6 nba finals do the Bulls win?



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User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 4):
If you took away MJ, how many of the 6 nba finals do the Bulls win?

Maybe 1. The year they had Dennis Rodman, Pippen, and Steve Kerr all together might have been their best minus-Jordan team.

Quoting Homer71 (Thread starter):
no SportsCenter highlights

Have you watched Manu Ginoboli play? He is our Argentinian highlight reel. The guy will kill himself trying to make the big play.

Quoting Homer71 (Thread starter):
no flashy superstar

I know Tim Duncan likes to remain low key, but have you seen Parker's fiance' lately?




It doesn't matter how flashy you are if you can still get the babes.

Quoting Homer71 (Thread starter):
The fact that Lebron is in the Finals will boost viewership.

Thus the reason I'm glad the Cavs made it to the finals. I finally want some people to watch how good the Spurs are.


User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2336 times:

My mom came running to my room raving about the Cavs victory and we live in Chicago!!! I said "ok" lol.

I think this will be a very good game. I think the spurs will take it. But I think the Cleveland deserves some title since the browns lol.


User currently offlineDimoko From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 307 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

hey, the cavs are also one of the top defensive teams in the league.

ask the pistons how it was to play us

GO CAVS!!



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User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2245 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 5):
Thus the reason I'm glad the Cavs made it to the finals. I finally want some people to watch how good the Spurs are.

Good point.

I put the over/under on the number of Eva shots during the Game 1 broadcast at 24...  Wink



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

Quoting Homer71 (Thread starter):
What can I say, the Spurs are boring (great defense, no SportsCenter highlights, no flashy superstar), but they are consistently effective and they bring home championships, and I'll take that any day.

Which is why owner Dan Gilbert deliberately set out to model the Cavaliers after the Spurs. They're the Spurs, Jr. Their coach. Mike Brown, was tutored by Popovich in San Antonio; their GM, Danny Ferry, was assistant GM at San Antonio. Gilbert rightly believes that, more often than not, you win championships with defense, and can get by wtih a solid but not necessarily spectacular offense.

And the Cavs are young; they'll be shedding a load of cap room in the next few years, and chances are, LeBron will never be going anywhere else. This is a team that will be in the hunt for the next decade.

Quoting RJdxer (Reply 2):
Same question, if LeBron were to go down with an injury in game one, would you still say 4-2? I think it'd be 4-0.

So do I. The Cavs have good, solid players, but you cannot lose LeBron, and expect to win. But, doesn't the same go for the Spurs if they lose Duncan? How much of a chance do you give them, then? Not much.

And, it seems, the Cavs still are getting little respect nationally. That's fine. Many people still don't think they deserve to be there, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating-they got through the East, and EARNED the right to represent the East.

I think they will represent well. I think San Antonio will find this a tough, slug-it-out Series. I think the Spurs will win it in 7 games. I believe the Cavs will take one in SAT, but that the Spurs will counter with a win in Cleveland.

It'll be a great series. And, with LeBron in the series, there'll be plenty of SportsCenter highlights.  Smile


User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

Quoting Homer71 (Reply 8):
I put the over/under on the number of Eva shots during the Game 1 broadcast at 24...

The number of Eva shots is directly proportional to Parker's performance.


User currently offlineF9Widebody From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

Man I hate the spurs. Ginobili flops. Duncan whines. Horry body-checks.









Yet unfortunately for basketball, I think they will have little trouble with the Cavs.



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User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2278 times:

Quoting Dimoko (Reply 7):
the cavs are also one of the top defensive teams in the league.

Cavs defense vs. Spurs defense? Is this even a question??? Spurs everyday of the week.

piercey in CLE  Sad



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

4-1 for the Spurs. I don't think that Cleveland is good enough for an NBA final just yet.

User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2245 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

Game 1:
Spurs 85, Cavs 76

Not the kind of Finals debut LeBron was hoping for (other than a couple of treys late), but now that Game 1 is behind him, he'll go to work (Spurs need to stay focus or else the Cavs can steal Game 2).

As for the Spurs: Pick-and-roll, baby, pick-and-roll

GO SPURS GO

[Edited 2007-06-08 05:53:33]


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User currently offlineScottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2212 times:

Quoting F9Widebody (Reply 11):
Horry body-checks.

haha. Nash was running at Horry. Horry just stood there, and kinda shifted his balance a wee bit. (jk)

But yeah, I hope King James can step it up. I want the Spurs to have to fight for a 4th ring!

GO SPURS GO!!

-Mike


User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2245 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2204 times:

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 15):
I want the Spurs to have to fight for a 4th ring!

I don't know about that...Spurs-Pistons nearly gave me a heart attack in the '05 Finals Big grin



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2189 times:

Just saw in the paper this morning the tv ratings for Game 1 were the lowest ever for the first game. Of course this comes on the heels of the NHL near invisible ratings flop. Perhaps its time the winter sports look at reducing the regular season by 20 games or just eliminate the first round of the playoffs.

Of course my son who actually watches the NBA, has another theory, he claims the NBA Championship was already played in round 2.


User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2188 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 17):
Of course my son who actually watches the NBA, has another theory, he claims the NBA Championship was already played in round 2.

In other words, the Spurs have already won.

Quoting AirCop (Reply 17):
Just saw in the paper this morning the tv ratings for Game 1 were the lowest ever for the first game.

Damn, I thought Bron-Bron (WTF?) would have a better draw than that.


User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2186 times:

Quoting Homer71 (Thread starter):
What can I say, the Spurs are boring (great defense, no SportsCenter highlights, no flashy superstar), but they are consistently effective and they bring home championships, and I'll take that any day.

Prediction: Lebron and/or Gibson will get off, but the Spurs will put the Cavs to sleep 4-2.

Agree with this assessment entirely. Game 2 should be a lot of fun to watch. The only way this prediction goes down is if LeBron dominates the Spurs in Game 2.

Quoting LY744 (Reply 1):
Ooooo, the Spurs and LBJ in the finals

Spurs + LBJ + finals - sounds like a '60's rodeo w/the President.

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 18):
Bron-Bron

What-what? Is that a Happy Meal toy, like a Lebron dinosaur?

-R


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

I expect a much better performance from the Cavaliers in game #2. I think they know a little better now what it takes to hang in the finals, and I think it'll show. Don't know if they'll win, but they'll be a lot closer in this one, I really believe.

If they can take Game 2, I still can't see them beating the Spurs 3 straight up in Cleveland. The Spurs are just too good to lose 3 straight to anyone right now. The big key is trying to slow down Parker. If they can do that, they'll be all right.

Was reading online from ESPN or somewhere, someone mentioned the Cavs are really in a no-lose situation in this series. No one expect them to win; they've gone further than anyone could think so soon in their development; and they'll learn how far they need to go to make the final step, if they do lose, like most everyone assumes.

They won't be able to stand pat this off-season, either. 'Da Bulls, Wizards and Raptors are coming, and they'll have to upgrade their point guard position and the bench.

Either way, I can't be happier right now for this organization. They've come an incredibly long way in a very short period of time.

GO CAVS!


User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2168 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 20):
'Da Bulls, Wizards and Raptors are coming, and they'll have to upgrade their point guard position and the bench.

About time I heard a Cavs fan say that. Honestly, if I heard one more time "teh Bulls suck cause they got slapped by Detroit and we beat them" I'm just gonna have to turn some basketball fans into some Italian football fans  box 

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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2149 times:

Gloom, despair and agony on me( Ooooh!) deep, dark depression, excessive misery. (Oooooh!)  Big grin
Not feeling THAT bad, actually, but the Spurs are playing at an incredibly high level of excellence right now, and they're showing it. If the Cavs can't start playing tougher D, their trademark in the playoffs, this one will be over in 4.

Biggest difference? Shooters. San Antonio can go deep, and go inside with the same effectiveness. And that's what the Cavs still lack-a dependable outside game, that opens up the floor for the big men and LeBron.

Series is going to Cleveland Tuesday. Hoping for better things back at The Q.


User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2143 times:

I went to a party. I left after the first half. It started to get ugly, and as a Bulls fan, I'd of course be the first one dead...

Oh well, still a good game  Smile

piercey in CLE  Sad



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User currently onlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8018 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2138 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 22):
Biggest difference? Shooters. San Antonio can go deep, and go inside with the same effectiveness. And that's what the Cavs still lack-a dependable outside game, that opens up the floor for the big men and LeBron.

The difference comes down to this: besides Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli capable of scoring a lot of points and putting up stifling defense, they can use both Bruce Bowen and Robert Horry to add to that defense, too. Small wonder why the Cavaliers will soon be flattened like a pancake.  no 


25 EA CO AS : It should be Suns/Cavs right now. F*ck the Spurs.
26 LTU932 : The little I saw from the game, all I saw was Cleveland getting crushed by the Spurs. It was a pretty one-sided game, and from what I personally expec
27 Post contains images RayChuang : It'll still be no contest as the Suns' roster of players will still wipe out the Cavaliers. LeBron James can only take the Cavs so far.
28 Scottieprecord : Helluva close game... Spurs up by 3 with 10 seconds GO SPURS GO! -Mike
29 GEEDO : Exciting finish to an otherwise un noteworthy game. Sporting purests will embrace the defensive struggle that it was, but fans and league officials wi
30 LTU932 : San Antonio is leading the series 3-0 already?
31 DeltaGator : Yep. That silence you hear is American not caring nor even knowing who is in the Finals outside of the two cities involved. I miss the 70s and 80s wh
32 Scottieprecord : Agreed. I'm a Spurs fan, but their style of basketball is god-awful BORING... And in addition to the games being boring, this series has the look of
33 Mir : I watched a bit of the game last night, and from the way the Cavs played, I'm not at all surprised. -Mir
34 AirCop : I'm sure the cable channels (ESPN, TNT,) will over pay once again. The owners of the teams must realize the game is not longer attracting casual fans
35 LTU932 : I miss the NBA that had star players who still care about the game. I'm talking about the times of people such as Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Michael
36 Stretch 8 : It is turning into a very humiliating spanking of the Cavs, who appear overmatched against the Spurs. But take heart Cleveland fans. Losing on such a
37 DeltaGator : Nah. How many times did the Cavs lose to Jordan's Bulls in the Eastern Conference playoffs and it never sparked anything in them other than getting o
38 Falcon84 : A very young team losing to one that can legimately be called a "dynasty" now, isn't humiliating at all, if you ask me. It can be seen as a stepping
39 DeltaGator : The same was said about the Orlando Magic after they were swept by the Rockets. They've never recovered from that whipping and only now 10+ years lat
40 RJdxer : insert Indians or Browns here Not quite the Cleveland Cadavers of old, more like the Browns of the 80's and the Indians of the 90's. Same old Clevela
41 Allstarflyer : I'm not asking, and yes it would be humiliating for them to get spanked 4-0. Mavs or Cavs? Orlando coughed up a young Shaq, and I don't see Nowitzki
42 Jj : It's no wonder that the ratings are hitting record lows... Stern needs to do something ASAP. From what I've read on several sites, the smartest idea i
43 EA CO AS : Nice call on suspending Stoudemire and Diaw, Stern and Jackson. If not for that, the Suns would likely be playing right now instead of the Spurs, and
44 Post contains images Falcon84 : Unfortunately, that '92 Cavs team was soon decimated by injury, as Mark Price, Brad Daugherty and Hot Rod Williams all suffered serious injuries. Dau
45 Halls120 : I can't recall a time when so few people at work were talking about the NBA finals. It's almost like the NHL finals (sorry, hockey fans). There just
46 Falcon84 : Two starters. Ilgalskus and Gooden are good enough to help take this team to that place. They need a true point guard, and at least another shooter o
47 RJdxer : As have and continue to be, all CLE sports franchises save one.
48 SCCutler : Again, a Dallas team wins the NBA Championship! Congratulations, Dallas Chaparrals.
49 HPLASOps : Typical - Dallas tries to steal the glory undeservedly from San Antonio. The Cowgirls had a nice little run in the early 90s and that's just not enou
50 GEEDO : There isn't the same buzz in sports these days because there haven't been marketable stars. Shaq was the last great marketable player and his time has
51 EA CO AS : Parker was shut down pretty effectively by Shawn Marion. Ginobili resurrected his game outta nowhere - he had been struggling all season and managed
52 HPLASOps : Why is it boring? Because there isn't some tattooed thug ignoring his teammates going to the basket, coming out popping his jersey and saying "Look a
53 EA CO AS : Beg to differ on that one - you have two; Bowen and Horry. So kicking guys and planting your feet to intentionally attempt to inflict injury is fun t
54 Allstarflyer : All of that is backwards - the Suns can't play at the Spurs' tempo (full-contact style). Even so, Texas itself is still only the 3rd best state (curr
55 EA CO AS : That's not a style of basketball - that's football or hockey. Watch that instead if you want to see people getting injured in the name of defense.
56 DeltaGator : Dear Lord, what was I typing. Yes, I meant the Cavs. Geez, the C and the M key aren't even close to each other to make the mistake. Though the same m
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