Jycarlisle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8483 times:
OK, A friend invited me to watch Scarface with Al Pacino last night and I must say that the chainsaw scene made me sick to my stomach and I almost spewed chunks. I think the producers and screenwriter(s) for that film need(ed) to be admitted to a mental unit. I really have lost my desire to see more films of this nature less alone in general....
And people wander why flight simulator is my main form of sitdown and watch entertainment. (Besides having a semi-social life.)
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20732 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8471 times:
You should have seen it on the big screen! LOL
Anyway, to criticize a masterpiece of a film 24 years later, out of the context of the time or the meaning of it, is pretty weak sauce. You might want to read up on the making of the movie. The scene went through a number of cuts (pardon the pun) to avoid the "X" rating.
Another sequence noted for its cinematic virtuosity would of course be the notorious chainsaw murder in which Tony's friend, Angel (Pepe Serna), is tied to a shower curtain rod while his limbs are systematically removed by ruthless Colombian drug dealers -- an act based on the research Stone had conducted into South Florida crime records. "I wanted to establish a level of violence like nobody had ever seen before," said De Palma, "because this is a whole different level of mob interaction, and I wanted to get it over with early in the movie to say, 'This is what it is -- we're in a whole different world here.... But ultimately it was all done with suggestion. I always sort of get penalized because I do this stuff very well and though people think there's a lot of graphic violence, there really isn't. The fact is that we always panned off the saw as it was about to cut into Angel ... and then you saw the blood hitting Tony's face."
I've just seen this movie last week, for the first time as well. I have to say, the best the chainsaw scene got out of me was a cringe. I did, however, watch it with the expectation of a stylized story depicting some of the realities (more or less) of the 80's drug scene. What were you expecting?
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7643 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8428 times:
I have the unedited version, but compared to the amount of gore they put in alot of movies these days, Scarface is harmless in my opinion. CSI NY is pretty brutal at times, and that's on prime time TV.
Halls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8407 times:
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5): Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):I think the producers and screenwriter(s) for that film need(ed) to be admitted to a mental unit.
Why...?? Things like that really happen......
They do indeed. I have photos at work of a former Colombian drug dealer whose bosses had decided he was a liability.
They literally skinned him, and put his torso-less "exterior" in a box and delivered it to his family.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8367 times:
Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter): and I must say that the chainsaw scene made me sick to my stomach and I almost spewed chunks. I think the producers and screenwriter(s) for that film need(ed) to be admitted to a mental unit. I really have lost my desire to see more films of this nature less alone in general
Jycarlisle, the producers and screenwriters based that scene on a real drug murder.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13229 posts, RR: 77
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 8230 times:
Great film, overblown-like the time it depicted, great dialogue.
Personally, I have no problem with a scene which based on a real event or not, is clearly the product of make up, acting, special effects. It's not real.
The overblown nature of the film might also in part, be due to Oliver Stone, he was not the director but was heavily involved in the film, being a bona-fide coke head at the time.