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Scarface -- The Chainsaw Scene  
User currently offlineJycarlisle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8578 times:

OK, A friend invited me to watch Scarface with Al Pacino last night and I must say that the chainsaw scene made me sick to my stomach and I almost spewed chunks. I think the producers and screenwriter(s) for that film need(ed) to be admitted to a mental unit. I really have lost my desire to see more films of this nature less alone in general....

And people wander why flight simulator is my main form of sitdown and watch entertainment. (Besides having a semi-social life.)

Cheers,
Jeremy

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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20785 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8566 times:

You should have seen it on the big screen! LOL

Anyway, to criticize a masterpiece of a film 24 years later, out of the context of the time or the meaning of it, is pretty weak sauce. You might want to read up on the making of the movie. The scene went through a number of cuts (pardon the pun) to avoid the "X" rating.

Quoting http://www.briandepalma.net/scarface/scar2.htm:

Another sequence noted for its cinematic virtuosity would of course be the notorious chainsaw murder in which Tony's friend, Angel (Pepe Serna), is tied to a shower curtain rod while his limbs are systematically removed by ruthless Colombian drug dealers -- an act based on the research Stone had conducted into South Florida crime records. "I wanted to establish a level of violence like nobody had ever seen before," said De Palma, "because this is a whole different level of mob interaction, and I wanted to get it over with early in the movie to say, 'This is what it is -- we're in a whole different world here.... But ultimately it was all done with suggestion. I always sort of get penalized because I do this stuff very well and though people think there's a lot of graphic violence, there really isn't. The fact is that we always panned off the saw as it was about to cut into Angel ... and then you saw the blood hitting Tony's face."



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User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8523 times:

Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):
A friend invited me to watch Scarface with Al Pacino last night

I've just seen this movie last week, for the first time as well. I have to say, the best the chainsaw scene got out of me was a cringe. I did, however, watch it with the expectation of a stylized story depicting some of the realities (more or less) of the 80's drug scene. What were you expecting?

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 1):
You should have seen it on the big screen! LOL

I watched it on my friend's brother's homebuilt HD projector, so I guess that counts for something. Tony's pile of coke was HUGE!  silly 



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7643 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8523 times:

I have the unedited version, but compared to the amount of gore they put in alot of movies these days, Scarface is harmless in my opinion. CSI NY is pretty brutal at times, and that's on prime time TV.


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User currently offlineUAL777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1560 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8506 times:

That scene was awesome!

"I dont trust them f$$king Colombians ma'en"

Seriously though, I love Colombia.



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8506 times:

Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):
I think the producers and screenwriter(s) for that film need(ed) to be admitted to a mental unit.

Why...?? Things like that really happen......



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8502 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5):
Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):I think the producers and screenwriter(s) for that film need(ed) to be admitted to a mental unit.
Why...?? Things like that really happen......

They do indeed. I have photos at work of a former Colombian drug dealer whose bosses had decided he was a liability.

They literally skinned him, and put his torso-less "exterior" in a box and delivered it to his family.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17786 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8488 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 6):
They literally skinned him, and put his torso-less "exterior" in a box and delivered it to his family.

As Nancy Reagan said, "just say no" Silly



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8464 times:

And here it is. What a great movie.



User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8462 times:

Quoting Jycarlisle (Thread starter):
and I must say that the chainsaw scene made me sick to my stomach and I almost spewed chunks. I think the producers and screenwriter(s) for that film need(ed) to be admitted to a mental unit. I really have lost my desire to see more films of this nature less alone in general

Jycarlisle, the producers and screenwriters based that scene on a real drug murder.



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7643 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8454 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 8):
What a great movie.

That it is, that it is!



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User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8415 times:

At least they didn't try to give them Colombian Neck Ties...

User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8401 times:

The chain saw seen never bothered me. Now the piggy seen in Deliverance caused me to avoid going into the woods for a while.  scared 

User currently offlineJycarlisle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8362 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5):
Things like that really happen......

Yeah, it's called Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Another abhorrent based on a true story.

Although, I shouldn't complain. I was discussing with another friend of mine who's father attended the Eichmann trial and execution in Israel. It was pretty inhumane too, but well deserved.


User currently offlineJfkspotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 448 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8359 times:

I guess you never saw any of the Saw movies then...

User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13241 posts, RR: 77
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8325 times:

Great film, overblown-like the time it depicted, great dialogue.
Personally, I have no problem with a scene which based on a real event or not, is clearly the product of make up, acting, special effects. It's not real.

The overblown nature of the film might also in part, be due to Oliver Stone, he was not the director but was heavily involved in the film, being a bona-fide coke head at the time.


User currently offlineJycarlisle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8283 times:

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 11):
At least they didn't try to give them Colombian Neck Ties...

Pray enlighten me what that is.... Maybe I should visit Colombia sometime less alone little Havana.

Quoting Jfkspotter (Reply 14):
I guess you never saw any of the Saw movies then...

I think I am going to have to watch them then


User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1637 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8273 times:

Quoting Jycarlisle (Reply 16):
Quoting Miamiair (Reply 11):
At least they didn't try to give them Colombian Neck Ties...

Pray enlighten me what that is.... Maybe I should visit Colombia sometime less alone little Havana.

You really want to know what that is?

According to Wikipedia, the "Colombian Necktie" is a method of execution whereby the neck is slashed and the tongue is pulled down through the gaping wound--hence the gruesome "necktie" effect.

SmithAir747

[Edited 2007-06-05 02:59:51]


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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8271 times:

It's added [true] afftect. It shows how brutal that entire scene is.

Terrific movie.

Brian de Palma is the man!



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