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F1 2007: Canada  
User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3104 times:

Alright Ladies and Gentleman....

Canada's coming up...and unfortunately, I think this race is going to the Ferraris..assuming no mechanical problems.

I also feel that Alonso will not do well.

Any thoughts, news or surprises?

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User currently offlineLhrstu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3095 times:

Hopefully this track will suit the Ferraris a bit more than Monaco so we can have more of a race. Should be a close one.

User currently offlineGSM763 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3092 times:

Canada has always been a great to watch, never that great of a race to attend, but that is just my opinion. Im thinkin g this will be Hamiltons race, however a Ferrari 2 and 3 would ne be unexpected. I just think its time for Hamilton to snag one.


Everyone come to the USGP for an a.net meet! hahaha


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3080 times:

It's going to be a tough one to call. Ferrari are defintely more suited to this track then Monaco, but it's clear McLaren have closed the gap.

Quoting BlueElephant (Thread starter):
I also feel that Alonso will not do well.

Everytime you say that he wins.


User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

The battle will be closer then Monaco, but Mclaren are really strong so I would not say that Ferrari will have an easy weekend.

Personally I think Kimi will put in a very strong performance, and also outpace Massa.
Drivers really have to watch out and keep it on the raceline as graining is a big issue on this track.

Canada is always fun as the last chicane after the long traight usually offers some nice wallscratching and overtaking.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3072 times:

Make a motion for "New Rules"

All thread starters must contain youtube clips relevant to the race under discussion.
Mika, take us for a lap:


Canadians can drive, too!


Oh, and the newest F1 PS3 game has a pit stop mini game (from Canada)


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3065 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 5):

Oh, and the newest F1 PS3 game has a pit stop mini game (from Canada)

That guy is such a n00b. he only got one green tick! that was a 16 second pit stop that should have been 8


User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3057 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 3):
Everytime you say that he wins.

If that is the case, Then i hope he wins....Maybe that will will make him lose.

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 5):
Make a motion for "New Rules"

Sounds like a good plan.

Quoting Sudden (Reply 4):
The battle will be closer then Monaco, but Mclaren are really strong so I would not say that Ferrari will have an easy weekend.

Ferrari were a lot faster at Paul Ricard when the track was configured for a Canada Layout. I am not saying they will have a really easy weekend...but It looks like this one is theirs...

Although i want Hamilton to win...I won't say anything this time.


User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 7):
Although i want Hamilton to win...I won't say anything this time.

Great, now he's jinxed! LouHam is going to hit the "Champions Wall," and it's all Blue's fault! GAH!!!!!!!!!

Reporters ask really stupid questions
Of course he doesn't give a shit. He's racing!

Renault is looking optimistic; they "appear" to have BMW Sauber in their sights. Kubica better do 2 things this weekend: make the Canadian press STFU about Jacques not being there and make Renault STFU about moving forward. GO BMW!

Supersofts for Canada, Softs and Mediums for USGP
Personally, I like to have all tire sets avail to teams, with teams choosing 2 compounds at the end of Fri testing. Teams could choose whatever sets suited them best, regardless of the other teams. Of course, logistics make that near impossible... too many tires.

Quote:
Similar to Monte Carlo, being more or less a street circuit, Montreal is not used many times so it’s very dusty and very slippery, which is why we’ve opted for the soft and super soft compounds. It will be a bit of a challenge to make the tyres survive on this track, especially at the beginning of the weekend with the high speeds and the expected high temperatures.

Guess they need grip, and the super softs have a bunch of grip...

Rosberg with Williams in 2008
A star in the same league as LouHam? Frank, Nico's good... but come on.

Quote:
Toro Rosso co-owner Gerhard Berger, meanwhile, told Sport Bild that the attention of every team boss in pit lane has been drawn to Rosberg's driving in 2007. "Ferrari included," he quipped.

I think the Ferrari thing is a bit overdrawn. So before this gets too speculative, admiration of a driver is not the same thing as offering him a contract, or even talking to him about a contract. Ferrari probably only admired Nico.

Making Tracks

Quote:
Ecclestone is already applying pressure for a minimally 20-race schedule in the near future, but Williams said the sport risks becoming less attractive for its workers.

Going back to questions raised in previous threads. Who is going to lose a GP? How much is Bernie playing Chicken with the tracks?

Honda

Quote:
“At the Paul Ricard test, we found a good set-up on the Montreal configured circuit, which we hope will translate well to the race weekend. We are continuing to develop the car, not only in terms of new aero parts but also mechanical improvements. Although we have not had the opportunity to test since Monaco, we will keep pushing as hard as possible for the North American races."

Anyone have the Paul Ricard (North America) numbers handy?


User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

I'm a bit dubious about Mclaren's straight line speed.

The Ferrari is faster on the straights, and there is a big straight here where Ferrari may be able just to waltz away. The question is will the Mclaren be superior around the bendy part of the circuit?

I really wouldn't want to make any estimates now about what may happen this weekend, I want to see some practice times first!

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 8):
Great, now he's jinxed! LouHam is going to hit the "Champions Wall," and it's all Blue's fault! GAH!!!!!!!!!

Bah, if I remember rightly nobody has hit that properly in awhile.


User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3029 times:

Quoting BA757 (Reply 9):

Button did IIRC 2 years ago, damaged rear suspension I think.

Ferrari should do well, i dont want to jinx it though  silly 

Mclaren should do well on the bendy bit of the circuit but like someone said do they have the straight line speed?

Rgds --James--



You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3006 times:

Quoting BA757 (Reply 9):
Bah, if I remember rightly nobody has hit that properly in awhile.

If LouHam's Monaco driving style is any indication, he'll hit the damn wall a few times and brag about how he got away with it. Alonso will fire back that he is the #1 driver and that his superior driving won the day. Kimi will tell both drivers to shut up b/c he drove with a hangover and their bickering is making his headache worse. At that point, Ron Dennis will mention the words "team" and "orders" together, albeit with a 45 second gap between the words, causing Bernie to investigate matters. Oh, and Adrian Sutil also hits the wall, but no one cares, save Ralf Schumacher, who gets sacked for making excuses. I miss anything?


User currently offlineGSM763 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3002 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 11):
If LouHam's Monaco driving style is any indication, he'll hit the damn wall a few times and brag about how he got away with it. Alonso will fire back that he is the #1 driver and that his superior driving won the day. Kimi will tell both drivers to shut up b/c he drove with a hangover and their bickering is making his headache worse. At that point, Ron Dennis will mention the words "team" and "orders" together, albeit with a 45 second gap between the words, causing Bernie to investigate matters. Oh, and Adrian Sutil also hits the wall, but no one cares, save Ralf Schumacher, who gets sacked for making excuses. I miss anything?

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 


User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 11):
I miss anything?

You could have at least mentioned Renault or whinging Button. Other than that, probably spot on!  Smile


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 8):
Anyone have the Paul Ricard (North America) numbers handy?

Those tests were two weeks ago,

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 11):
I miss anything?

Rubens and Jenson will claim Honda have taken a leap forward despite not going anywhere.


User currently offlineDuff44 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1723 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 8):

Going back to questions raised in previous threads. Who is going to lose a GP? How much is Bernie playing Chicken with the tracks?

If you're a classic venue that has been on the schedule forever, you're in jeopardy.

If you're a Hermann Tilke designed cookie-cutter piece of shit track with good amenities, you're in!

 Yeah sure



I'll rassle ya for a bowl of bacon!
User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 11):
I miss anything?

Might have been that Albers will continue wining about Spykers poor performance, but that the team is is working hard.
This team is working damn hard (according to Albers), but they don't get anywhere. hm..........  scratchchin 

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2966 times:

Quoting Sudden (Reply 16):

Might have been that Albers will continue wining about Spykers poor performance, but that the team is is working hard.

Like Albers has been in a better car to compare it against  Yeah sure


User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2950 times:

Check out the poll below who has a major lead in regards to win the Canadian GP.
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/poll.php?a...vote&pollID=1079&pollanswerID=4419

Hamilton is not getting much votes, but on the other hand I am pretty flat on that issue. I mean, so many people thinks it is his time to win. Why not turn that around and say it's his time to make a mistake or a DNF? That will for sure happen as he is just human as the rest of the grid.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2944 times:

Quoting Sudden (Reply 18):
Why not turn that around and say it's his time to make a mistake or a DNF?

I've been saying this all season and I get accused of being a Hamilton hater!


User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2940 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 19):
I've been saying this all season and I get accused of being a Hamilton hater!

And some even compare him with Schumi! Why?

Compare the cars from when Schumi started his career, and todays cars. For sure, to drive a F1 car must be very demanding and require skills that I for sure don't have driving my Subaru to the shop, but come on!

When Hamilton is a 8 time champ then I will say that he is better then Schumi, Fangio etc.

Not to take anything away from Hamilton cause he is a great talent that have showed that he can be fast!
Just to much hype.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

Damn, I did miss a few things. Maybe next time.

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 15):
If you're a classic venue that has been on the schedule forever, you're in jeopardy.

Or if you won't pay the electric bill...

Quoting Sudden (Reply 18):
Why not turn that around and say it's his time to make a mistake or a DNF? That will for sure happen as he is just human as the rest of the grid.

At the moment, he isn't trying to do anything too daring or brash. I say he'll be taken out before he makes a mistake.

Quoting Sudden (Reply 20):

When Hamilton is a 8 time champ then I will say that he is better then Schumi, Fangio etc.

No Senna!? Then again, our resident Ferrari hater from down under may have something to say about Hamilton and Schumie  Wink.

Remember LouHam, you're only as good as your last race, hence why Kimi "sucks."
You know what, I want Kimi to kick the field's ass this weekend. Not just win, but lap at least one of the McLarens... and that coming from a non-Ferrari fan! Hell, even Mario Andretti was chapping Kimi's ass. Go worry about your slow grandson, Mario.


User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2930 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 21):
You know what, I want Kimi to kick the field's ass this weekend. Not just win, but lap at least one of the McLarens...

LOL!

That would be something for the media. Big grin

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2929 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 21):
Remember LouHam, you're only as good as your last race, hence why Kimi "sucks."
You know what, I want Kimi to kick the field's ass this weekend. Not just win, but lap at least one of the McLarens... and that coming from a non-Ferrari fan! Hell, even Mario Andretti was chapping Kimi's ass. Go worry about your slow grandson, Mario.

Hahah....Yes this will happen...It'll be Alonso too, who will end the race, and blame the car.



Btw..Did anyone see this?

Seems our bitter friend Villeneuve has a few words to say about Mr. Hamilton.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6726711.stm


User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2928 times:

Villeneuve takes any chance to snap at Schumi, but he actually has some valid points, such as saying
"And we still haven't seen how he reacts under pressure - that will be interesting to watch."

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



When in doubt, flat out!
25 Nosedive : You know, there is just something about making it look easy... that just drives the other drivers nuts. You know, as much as Button is ignored these
26 Post contains images DHHornet : I can see the future... That useless tw*t Ralf will be sacked at last! Trulli will p*ss on him again. Massa will put it in the wall. I still think he
27 MCOflyer : Are the rules different from the US? Hunter
28 Nosedive : Only if Bernie wants them to be. He seems to make things up as the season goes along. Other than that, not sure what you're asking about, man.
29 Post contains images BA757 : Well the marbles aren't the rules are they? They are lumps of rubber from tyre degradation. It is only like in Fussball when they talk about pitch co
30 Nosedive : Yeah, but in Soccer, they usually have something to talk about! "Yep, they're gonna pass in the pits, so we don't have to say anything of value until
31 Post contains links and images BA757 : OT, but for any F1 fans who are not aware of our racing game league and are interested in it, see this thread: A.net Racing League – Season 4 (by BA
32 MCOflyer : Do the rules for racing differ from different countries? Hunter
33 Nosedive : Nope, just the tracks. Or.... that's how it SHOULD go.
34 Post contains images Legoguy : Actually I quite ennoy his commentary! And Martin Brundle's aswell. And remember last year when Kimi went out of line around the hairpin on the very
35 Post contains images Sudden : Darn! Why did you have to give away the result up front! I see a lot of bad comments about ITV and their commentators. Is it that bad? Martin Brundle
36 Post contains images Bill142 : Go and put $50 on the race and the tell me how upset you are
37 Post contains images BlueElephant : Alright...Here's my Guesses. 1. Kimi 2. Hamilton 3. Massa 4. Kubica 5. Alonso.. Other interesting things. Jenson button will Crash out, as will Sutil
38 DHHornet : quote=Sudden,reply=35]I see a lot of bad comments about ITV and their commentators. Is it that bad? Martin Brundle should be able to reflect it pretty
39 Bill142 : Except when he really gets going like at the Nurburgring in 2005 when Kimis suspension failed on the final lap.
40 Post contains images Sudden : Go for it. We always have one commentator in the booth, and the other one is down in the pitlane chatting with drivers, mechs etc. He also interview
41 Post contains links Nosedive : ITV has no control over that. It's the responsibility of the home race to ensure common TV coverage. German TV keeps focus pretty much on the German
42 Post contains images Legoguy : Skip to around the 55 second mark I accidentally posted this in the a.net racing league thread as well.
43 Cornish : Ferrari will be much more suited to Canada and USA. I think they'll win this weekend. raikkonen has to have a good result or he's in real trouble as t
44 Bill142 : It's arguable that Hamilton and Massa are by far and away more consistent then their more illustrious and high paid teammates. Massa hasn't really ha
45 Cornish : They have been. Massa's race in Melbourne was ok - its was his qualifying that was the problem. His race in Malaysia was poor though. since then just
46 Sudden : For some reason I also think Renault will be strong this weekend. They will come creeping up behind as the season progresses. And then we have Honda,
47 Bill142 : They claim to be on par with BMW now so we'll see. I'm a little confused with BMW they were super fast during the pre-season but have so far failed t
48 Post contains links Bill142 : News From Canada Alonso Leads & Toyota have dodgey suspension http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/070608215945.shtml Speed whinges abou
49 Sudden : Alonso on top, but it does not really tell that much, yet. Today we will see who is really fast. I hope SAF1 will qualify in the top 10 again. Aim for
50 Post contains links Nosedive : Webber not guilty Interesting little quote Ron probably told him to tune it down a lot, or he will be relegated to only a #2 driver. As it is now, Mc
51 Bill142 : All the technologies that are 'road-relevant' have been banned. And I can't envisage what else could be developed without being deemed a driver aid. A
52 Sudden : Second practice, 1. Lewis 2. Kimi 3. Alonso 4. Massa 5. Takuma. Now that is something to talk about. Well done and I hope it will reflect their qualif
53 Nosedive : When was this? Missing a memo in my book. Yup, he may help streamline costs for a team, but in the end it's about the $£€¥
54 SandroZRH : qualifying results: 1. Hamilton 2. Alonso 3. Heidfeld 4. Räikkönen 5. Massa 6. Webber 7. Rosberg 8. Kubica 9. Fisichella Impressive performance by H
55 Jamesbuk : 1) Lewis First pole!! 2)Alonso 3)Heidfeld 4)Raikkonen 5)Massa Wow amazing by lewis, but why did Alonso swerve at the end of quali? Ferrari couldve don
56 B747forever : The position for tomorrow will be : 1. Hamilton 2. Alonso 3. Heidfeld 4. Raikkonen 5. Massa 6. Webber 7. Rosberg 8. Kubica 9. Fisichella 10. Trulli 11
57 Sudden : The Mclarens are starting with lowe fuel, so that is the reason why Alonso did this. Both Kimi and Felipe did more laps then the Mclarens. Ralf says
58 Legoguy : That doesn't explain anything? Why would he have even bothered with that last lap then? Did you mean he knew after the mistake he wouldn't improve on
59 Sudden : In Q3, as you know, they all run on the fuel load for tomorrow, and Alonso is to start on low fuel as the crew told him several times to save on his
60 Post contains images Legoguy : Yup we got that as well, but I was under the impression most drivers are told this. I thought it just ment run with igher gearing to save fuel rather
61 Post contains links and images Nosedive : Qualy Info LouHam: 12 Alonso: 11 quick Nick: 12 Kimi: 12 Massa: 12 ONE LAP! It's a 70 lap race: 2 stoppers around 22-27, 44-48. 1 stoppers around 30-
62 Sudden : Toyota can take on Adrian Sutil instead, and then give the drive at Spyker to Verstappen. He would be a good boost to the team, and all Albers is doi
63 Legoguy : Vercrashen to Spyker? I think they would prefer someone younger and new talent.
64 Bill142 : Things like Traction Control, ABS etc. I can't think of anything else that an F1 car could develop, except maybe in the engine and gearbox areas that
65 Post contains images Sudden : Valid point there. For Mclaren it also meant more headlines now when he took pole. I do not think he will win this race. Winner of the race could be
66 Bill142 : Ferraris can probably go longer, but the big question is, do McLaren have enough genuine pace? and will Heidfeld hold up the Ferraris allowing Alonso
67 Sudden : He is most likely starting light, so he might give Kimi a hard time until the last straight where Kimi will be able to pass him. On a side note, What
68 Post contains links and images Nosedive : That is the $64,000 question. I'm gonna say the McLarens are light, but not that much lighter than the Ferraris. 3 laps lighter, max. Memo to Ron sto
69 Bill142 : Uggh Bourdais is the worst driver ever, only beaten by Yuji Ide. If I were Frank Williams I would be giving Ralf a call before Seb.
70 Sudden : Hold the press and alert CNN! LOL! For what I have seen so far, Ralf should be happy if he gets to drive another teams truck to the races. Bill142, G
71 Andz : After today's Spanish Moto GP the F1 can only be... yawn.... sorry but this year's motorcycle grand prix are much more exciting than the 4 wheeled ver
72 Legoguy : Lap 12 Hamilton Heidfeld +8 seconds Alonso +10 seconds (went off track at first corner) Massa +12 seconds Rosberg Kimi Fisichella
73 Legoguy : Alonso have trouble with 1st corner and has gone off 3 times within 19 laps. Has given 3rd place to Masaa. Hamilton looking strong, pulling away one s
74 Nosedive : Pit stops: heidfeld 20 louham 22 safety car 23 .... sutil smacks the wall. Lucky break for Massa? Sucks for the 2nd drivers, as they'll have to wait t
75 Jamesbuk : No, he hasnt pitted, so when he does hes going to come out alot further down the field. more like unlucky break I would say. Rgds --James--
76 Legoguy : Interesting. Did Alonso and Rosberg pit just after the pitlane had been closed? Close call. McLaren are saying that if Alonso had not have pitted he w
77 Legoguy : Huge crash for Kubica. Hope hes ok. Safety car out again.
78 Nosedive : I thought more traffic would pit and he'd get out 3rd and in sequence with LouHam. KUBICA! JESUS!
79 Nosedive : Hmmmm a bunch just went back into the pits. This track is gonna take a while to clean... could you do a one stopper from here....?
80 Jamesbuk : pitland closes during crashes unless they are to lead traffic through incase of emergency on main straight. HOLY SHIT, that was the biggest crash ive
81 Senliture : Looks like Kubica is alright, at least he was waving while the car was still sliding sideway. And they've put a Honda as the safety car!?
82 Andz : Looks like a Mercedes to me.
83 Mika : Holy crap, that was a really nasty crash by Kubica..lets all just hope that he's ok. That looked really bad i must say..
84 Clickhappy : The deacceleration Kubica encountered I fear the worst. I doubt he would be waving as the accident was still unfolding. I hope he is alright.
85 Bapilot2b : Definately one of the worst for a long time, and I do hope he is ok. I dont think that was voluntary waving, he must have been out cold there.
86 Nosedive : Kubica's looked to be able to clutch his left hand after the crash. That's a "good" sign.
87 Post contains images Legoguy : Drive through for Alonso and Rosberg (both have 10 second stop and go penalties) Ferrari's are midfield. I have completely lost track of this race. Sa
88 BAPILOT2B : Finally the excitement and unpredictability of F1 has returned after a long time!
89 Andz : Kubica is described as "stable" which is pretty non-descriptive.
90 BAPILOT2B : HAHAHAHAH oh dear! Davidson pitted and NOBODY was ready for him! What a classic sight, car pitting and the pit crew suddenly running out all unprepare
91 Nosedive : Kubica is stable, RTL is reporting. That's all they had to say. OOOHHHH Syncronized spinning!
92 Senliture : Interesting to see what happened to Davidson and Trulli/Rosberg! What a race!
93 Post contains images BAPILOT2B : With no further comment alsoI get the feeling he has some serious injury . That was great LOL.
94 Nosedive : RTL is stating they've seen a medical helicopter leave the track. Not a good sign.
95 BA757 : Did anyone else see Kubica's feet through the hole in the monocock? If he has hit them he could very easily have two broken legs, if not in a worse co
96 Andz : Kubica is conscious and talking to the doctors, his manager is positive about the prognosis and he is going to hospital now.
97 BA757 : He was talking to his manager apparently, they have moved him to the general hospital.
98 BAPILOT2B : Kubica's manager has just been on the TV and said he is fine and 'almost' normal.But again they didnt give away much as to what is wrong with him, and
99 Nosedive : RTL finally comes back from commercials. They've spoken with the Kubica's manager and the translation was "nicht so schlimm." No so bad. Whatever that
100 BAPILOT2B : Massa and Fisichella black flaggeddue to leaving the pit lane under a red light![Edited 2007-06-10 20:22:43]
101 Legoguy : This race is now a mess. Will be a lot of contravery afterwards. Bottom of Alonso's car slightly damaged. Come on Super Aguri and Honda! This is your
102 BA757 : STR in the final chicane wall!
103 BA757 : ANOTHER SC!
104 Nosedive : Tonio out..new SC .And Ralf is doing what he does best... Hold up traffic
105 BA757 : These new safety car rules are a wee bit confusing. It is perhaps a bit unfair how Rosberg and Alonso were given S&G's for having to pit when the firs
106 Nosedive : WTF JARNO!? filler filler
107 B747forever : What a amazing race. Have not seem the SC so much in a race
108 Legoguy : Yes this is the first time the new rules have come in to play and it's just way to confusing for teams. Eg Massa and Fisichella. If Alonso couldn't d
109 Nosedive : Hehe replays showing that Sato wants a piece of Ralf. GO AGURI! And the Alonso fans go nuts! Sato overtakes![Edited 2007-06-10 20:45:52]
110 Legoguy : Some really lucky people this race. Wurz and Heikki. Heikki crashed into qualifying, started last, and now is up to 4th.
111 Post contains images Legoguy : Sato is a legend!!!!!
112 Andz : Great win for Hamilton in difficult conditions. Listen to him on team radio LOL
113 BA757 : Kubica has broken something. Sounded like ankle...
114 Nosedive : broken leg for robert. all things considering... YEAH LOUHAM, QUICK NICK, WURZ AND SATO!
115 BA757 : As I said not surprising. His feet were hanging out the car. When the DVD recorder has finished I'll grab a screenshot of that.
116 Post contains images Mika : Lucky?? LUCKY?? Up 18 places from 22 to 4th is alot more than luck my friend, even considering the circumstances surrounding this race. Great and act
117 Post contains images SandroZRH : What a race, made up for all the boring races we've seen over the last weeks. I was horrified watching Kubica's crash, and quite frankly feared the wo
118 StealthZ : Nothing to do with safety car or new rules, leaving pit lane with a red light has ALWAYS been a serious breach! Not at all..If Alonso and Rosberg did
119 B747forever : Hope the race in USA next week will be as good as this. Hope Ferrari wins next week.
120 Andz : This race was total garbage, but I expect the Indy race to be more of the same. Concrete walls and safety cars... yawn.
121 Post contains images BA757 :
122 Post contains images Scbriml : Great drive by Hamilton. Kept his head while all around lost theirs. We may just be witnessing something very special.
123 BA757 : Well great to see Hamilton win so soon in his career. A different race to what we would normally expect and I am sure it will be remembered for a long
124 Post contains images BA777 : Superb drive by Hamilton, I'm feeling proud
125 Post contains images Legoguy : So with Kubica out (but stable ) will we see the young BMW test driver at US grandprix next week? Vettel was it?
126 Egmcman : What a great win for Lewis, Alonso will have plenty to think about. Alonso has never been that good at Indy so Lewis must be in with a chance of winin
127 B747forever : Hmmm. Now Hamilton lead the F1, Alonso has very big strain on him self. Wonder if he will make some mistakes at Indianapolis next week.
128 Post contains images Egmcman :
129 Mhodgson : Fantastic race, great to watch. Credit to Fox for timing the commercials well so that most of the real action was shown live! Great to hear the Britis
130 Post contains images BA757 : Nope, there was another safety car that was indeed a Honda. No match for the Mercedes though, in my opinion.
131 Post contains links and images Legoguy : The reason why Anthony Davidson pitted from third place catching his pit crew sitting about was... he had hit a beaver! http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Art
132 Post contains images BlueElephant : I Missed the Race...didn't get to see it. CONGRATS TO HAMILTON!.... I Heard it was a crazy Race... I want to watch it but don't have TIVO...and Vista
133 Post contains links and images Bill142 : I remember a few years back Olivier Panis broke both legs at Canada. He was never the same driver afterwards and lets hope the same fate doesn't befa
134 Legoguy : " target=_blank>http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.a...39543 Interesting! BMW now saying Kubica did not break and leg and is infact fine! Great news.
135 Post contains images LTBEWR : Unfortunatlly, due as I didn't realize today's race was on the FOX network (instead of Speed, which Fox owns) until about 6 laps from the end. Congrat
136 Andz : I don't dislike F1 per se, but the North American circuits are just not right for the sport, if a safety car has to come out every time one of the ca
137 Mhodgson : Button won last year (Hungary), albeit with Honda. Though they are based in the UK.
138 Bill142 : The demand isn't there for a purpose built F1 track in North America. Indianapolis was modified with new facilities built designed to suit F1 but it'
139 Cornish : Fantastic win for Hamilton - he really is showing that he is something special indeed. Aside from hitting the wall in free practice in monaco (as ever
140 Sudden : The highlight of this race, no matter all the other things were going on, was Sato overtaking Alonso! He made a clean overtaking and outbraking Alonso
141 BA777 : But Alonso hardly put up a fight! Satos reputation for being unpredictable played a part I believe, damage limitation from Fernando although all those
142 Sudden : Might be true, but why should he!? Sato was all over him. I think Sato have shown this year that he can actually race without taking everybody out of
143 Post contains links ZakHH : Kubica was released from hospital today, says German Sport1. He has not even broke his ankle, as was supposed first. Seems he indeed left the whole cr
144 Bill142 : On the upside the Canadian Olympic canoe team have a new boat with compliments of BMW Sauber.
145 Post contains images ZakHH : Nah, that thing has a tendency to capsize. See:
146 WrenchBender : If that is the animal he hit it isn't a Beaver it's a Ground Hog. WrenchBender
147 Sudden : This shows how safe an F1 car really is, but the G forces Kubica had to experience must have been tremendous! The first hit looked like a full impact
148 Scbriml : Now you're just spoiling our fun! If he didn't hit a beaver, none of the jokes work any more.
149 Post contains images WrenchBender : Sorry to spoil the jokes, but there is much better 'Real Beaver' to hit in Montreal than this...... and better places to do it than on the Circuit Gil
150 BA757 : It's an LG of some kind - DR170 or something. The race is 3GB on the DVD in LP format, but I could rip it into xvid or something but it would still b
151 Post contains links and images Scbriml : Now for a case of "commentator's curse"? Murray's opinion of Hamilton: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6739951.stm So, let me s
152 Post contains images SandroZRH : They show commercials DURING the race?
153 ZakHH : Kubica says he intends to drive in Indianapolis... unbelievable...
154 DHHornet : No I can't see the future. Just Honda are still crap and Sato's pants were on fire! The Boy Wonder is very scarily good. Schu who? I wonder what MS t
155 Mhodgson : Yep - as do ITV in the UK; though Fox have noticeably more breaks. They managed two commercial breaks between the chequered flag and podium presentat
156 Post contains links Legoguy : Dennis urges safety car rule change http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=39587 It was more than one lap under the safety car before the pit l
157 Waterpolodan : Hello everyone, I haven't looked at any of the posts in this thread but I just got back from Montreal after my 9th straight Canadian GP... this had to
158 Post contains images Sudden : We demand a tripreport! Aim for the sky! Sudden
159 Scbriml : My personal opinion is that things have gone too far "the other way". While I accept the SC is now a fully integral part of F1, the rules should be f
160 Post contains images Nosedive : So......... you'd make pitting under the SC a penalty. No one can pit unless registered with the FIA to pit. Thus, when I pit from 3rd, I come out 10
161 Scbriml : No, that isn't what I'm saying. I was suggesting that if a team has a scheduled pit stop when the SC is in play and the pit lane is closed, they shou
162 Post contains images Cornish : I learned today how much salary Lewis Hamilton is getting from McLaren. 360,000 GBP for the season. But he gets a bonus for each point he scores.He's
163 Post contains images Nosedive : Ok, so they'd get to retake 3rd place. But let's say 4th place was only 3 seconds behind 3rd place on the race track when the SC came out. Not only t
164 Bill142 : Mandate that additional fuel be carried in the event of a safety car. Basically if a safety car is deployed there is enough fuel to do 2-3 laps behin
165 Moo : Simple answer to that is - allow them to pit, but retain the 'no passing' rule. They take the chance with their fuel load getting too low and a safet
166 Scbriml : Exactly. It's difficult to come up with SC rules that treat all drivers fairly. Any deployment of the SC ends up hurting someone in terms of their le
167 Post contains links and images Scbriml : Well, now it seems Mr Alonso is a little unhappy! Mr Hamilton is getting preferential treatment according to the Spaniard http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1
168 Sudden : Fact still remains, Alonso did not loose any points to Hamilton by being slower, but due to his own mistakes. It must be frustrating having a rookie
169 Post contains images Cornish : if he hadn't gone off the road at the first corner he wouldn't have dropped behind Heidfeld early on.
170 Jamesbuk : Agreed, Alonso messed up all over the place at Canada, he went off at turn 1 at least 3 or 4 times losing track position and seemingly tried to hard
171 Sudden : Finally someone from the U.K that agree on this. Sure he's good, but I don't consider him all that. Aim for the sky! Sudden
172 Post contains images Scbriml : Hamilton has finished ahead of Alonso in three of the six races so far this season. He out-qualified Alonso in Canada and lead the race from start to
173 Gman94 : I can sort of see where Alonso is coming from though. It's not only the fact that Hamilton is a Brit driving for a British team you also have to consi
174 Post contains images Legoguy : For sure, I think everyone believes he will make a mistake at some stage. But to go through the first 6 races of his formula one career, finishing on
175 Post contains images Sudden : I think you need to read my post again. Aim for the sky! Sudden
176 Post contains links and images Waterpolodan : Hey everyone, I have a few photos I wanted to share... funny that Davidson hit a beaver/woodchuck/ground hog or whatever those things are, they are al
177 Scbriml : No, you said Alonso hasn't lost any points to Hamilton because he was slower, but becasue of mistakes. In both Bahrain and Canada Hamilton out qualif
178 Legoguy : Great pictures. Looks like you definately got value for money with seats at the hairpin. Poor Beavers/Groundhogs! To be fair, Alonso did make a mista
179 Jamesbuk : I read it as Alonso has lost points becuse he made mistakes, not because Alonso was slower. Yeh but he moans at everything, like when he moaned that
180 Scbriml : Yes, that's what he intended. However, my contention is that at least twice Alonso has lost points precisely because he was slower than Hamilton.
181 Waterpolodan : I can do better than that, here's a video I took with my camera as they come around for either the first or the second lap...
182 Senliture : How can the people not notice his square face!? Good fun, I went to the Melbourne GP last night and the atmosphere was unspeakable!
183 Post contains images Bill142 : Either the stands in Canada are a lot higher or the safety fences are lower then Australia. All my Melb GP pics are interrupted by the safety fence.
184 BA777 : There's nothing like actually being there, in future I'll be getting to a minimum of one race a year!
185 BA757 : They do look quite low, but bear in mind he is taking photos at the other side of the corner, or at an angle on the hairpin, so should be able to dod
186 Waterpolodan : Well, the fences are probably the same height as at other tracks, but I was in the very top row of a tall grandstand so that makes a big difference. T
187 Bill142 : I was on the main straight 2nd row from the top. This probably was part of the issue. Perhaps next time I will get a seat on a corner.
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