Springbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 13 Posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1209 times:
I will be in Auckland, New Zealand for around 12 days next month, from the 5th to the 17th (its a work trip..sort of). I will be free on most of those days...and was wondering if thats enough to see the whole country. I've been to Christchurch and Dunedin, and transited through Auckland, but never really went out of the airport.
So whats worth visiting in AKL? Is it possible to hire a car from AKL and drive down to Dunedin? I don't really need to stick to a budget...so hit me with some ideas.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8435 posts, RR: 15 Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1199 times:
What a lot of people fail to realise is that New Zealand is stretched out over a long distance North to South and that the roads are generally of a fairly poor standard ( a population of 4 million people in a land area slighter larger than Great Britain does not give a good tax base for infrastructure ) - if you only have 12 days and have to spend some of that working I would not waste time a couple of days of that time driving from AKL to DUD ( although the ferry crossing is apparently stunning ) . Other than that , recommendations on what to see / do depend very much on the sort of things you are interested . If scenery is your thing spend most of your time in the South Island - and even though Queenstown is sort of a cliché you should make sure that you see it - on the other hand if you are interested in finding out about Maori culture you should make sure that you get some time in Rotorua , if you are in to trout fishing Taupo is probably where you want to go . Everyone likes different things out of a holiday , and without knowing what pushes your buttons it is hard to make recommendations - I am sure if you post some ideas of what you like then you will get a lot more responses ( and they will probably be of more use to you )
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Thanks for that! I'm interested in the general touristy sort of things, not interested in fishing or learning about Maori culture (no disrespect). I think you're right, its better to fly down to DUD rather than spend 2 days driving!
But that's the other side of the island isn't it, hours away. It doesn't have to be the cheapest. Are flights fairly regular and what's the flying time, and should we book in advance before we go to SYD or could we just book while in SYD? We will be in SYD for a month.
LAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1182 times:
Quoting EK20 (Reply 7): we go to SYD or could we just book while in SYD? We will be in SYD for a month.
that question should be directed to the Aussies/Kiwis, ive never been to Australia all the information is from Flighstats.com hehe. I can tell you that the flights are regular tho and the expected time should be around 2:30-3 Hrs.
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" Samuel Johnson
KiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2029 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1175 times:
Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5): Just sightseeing....food and wine, exploring, and snow...I hope there is some snow in July.
There will definitely be snow in July. If it's in winter I would not bother at all with the North island. Head straight to Queenstown and base yourself there. Snow, adventure. There is even some wineries not far away.
Jafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1173 times:
Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 2): not interested in fishing or learning about Maori culture (no disrespect). I
Hmmmm, you'll be missing 75% of what NZ is about if you go avoiding the Maori Culture....you should be utterly ashamed to have made that remark...maybe you should just go to Howick and Nth Shore, spend your time with the Safa's and the Poms, wouldn't want anyone to rock your preconcieved notions of what makes New Zealand the wonderful place it is.
hey Bok I did the South Island last month except for Queenstown and the Picton/Nelson Area. I would listen to what KiwiinOz said. Also Flight centre has a sale on for holiday packages to Queenstown
Heres a thread which may help you Things See And Do In NZ South Island. (by VHVXB Mar 22 2007 in Non Aviation)
AerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6325 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1161 times:
Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 10): Hmmmm, you'll be missing 75% of what NZ is about if you go avoiding the Maori Culture
actually the post Colonial history of NZ is also interesting, and the 6 out of every 7 NZers that isn't Maori could feel hard done by in terms of their contribution to what makes up New Zealand. Regardless I think the country is more interesting than a few replica Maori villages and a hangi dinner. Our Geography and Biology is far more interesting than any human factors in New Zealand.
KiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2029 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1106 times:
Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 13): How many people do you really think visit Oz see and learn Aboriginal culture?
Yes but there's a difference. For a range of reasons, (let's not get into that!!) Aboriginal culture has very little influence on Australian culture as a whole. Conversely, in New Zealand, there are many Maori cultural traits that exist among the population as a whole. It is a more important, and more widely embraced cultural influence than that of Aboriginal culture.
WorkFlyer From New Zealand, joined Dec 2006, 203 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1106 times:
If you are in Auckland you have close access to some attractions which are worth some attention.
Even though it is winter, the west coast beaches (Within the city boundaries) are worth checking out. Wild and windswept at that time of year. Black sand too, which is a bit different.
On the Eastern side there are the gulf islands. Tiritirimatangi as mentioned above, Rangitoto, a volcanic island in the middle of the harbour mouth (Though dormant at the moment) Waiheke Island with its vinyards and artists. these islands are readily accessible by ferry.
Down in the Waikato and the King Country 1-2 hours south of Auckland by car there are attractions such as the Waitomo Caves, where you can go blackwater rafting.
Coromandel peninsula is not far away. You can actually dig your own hotpool on hotwater beach if you want, just check the tides before you go. You want low tide.
Rotorua is worth a look, for the Maori culture arts and crafts as well as the adrenalin activities nearby, jetboating, bungy, skydiving etc.
White Island off the Bay of Plenty coast, chance to walk on an active volcano. This is within a few hours drive then a 30 minute helocopter ride of AKL.
A couple of hours further south and you can go skiing on Mt Ruapehu.
There you go, a few attractions of the North Island from teh middle bit up.
S.I. is well worth a look as well, but the others have already covered those bits.
KiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2029 posts, RR: 5 Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1098 times:
Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 20): So...Maori culture is more important than Indigenous Australian culture? Qualify that the statement, if you will.
It's more important in the breadth and depth of it's influence. Aboriginal culture is, unfortunately, not an important influence on mainstream Australian culture. Comparatively, very few Australians possess a great knowledge of Aboriginal culture, and there seems to be very little interest in knowing any more or increasing it's influence, (in fact, on the occasion when I raise the prospect of increasing it's influence in some local government and tourism projects, this was often met with fairly negative reaction)
Bit of a shame really, seeing as the are truly indigenous, a much longer history of living in Australia than the Maoris do in New Zealand.
QANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1092 times:
Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 21): It's more important in the breadth and depth of it's influence.
Oh - you mean influence not importance. Be very very very careful - because if you go around saying one culture is more "important" than another when you actually mean "influential" it can leave you open to suggestions of racism or cultural superiority.
KiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2029 posts, RR: 5 Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1091 times:
Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 22): Oh - you mean influence not importance. Be very very very careful - because if you go around saying one culture is more "important" than another when you actually mean "influential" it can leave you open to suggestions of racism or cultural superiority.
I'm well aware of how these things can be misconstrued by people who are more interested in correcting semantics than talking about issues.
What I am saying, is that the Maori culture is more important to NZ culture than Aboriginal culture is to Australian culture BECAUSE of it's influence. It's not that I think this is a good thing, it's just the reality
AerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6325 posts, RR: 14 Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1077 times:
Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 18): there are many Maori cultural traits that exist among the population as a whole
such as? Apart from some saying 'kia ora' instead of 'gidday/hello' and the Government agencies having their slogans in English & Maori, I don't really think the Maori culture permeates into the culture of the average New Zealander.
25 Jafa39: Be a shame if they deliberatley ignored it though eh? Be like going to the Uk and not seeing any of the white culture (you know....spending 3 weeks i
26 Springbok747: Thanks for those suggestions guys Didn't know that about NZ.
27 WorkFlyer: Brilliantly put Jafa. I was going to include something along these lines in my earlier post on this thread but I could not think of a good way to put
28 ZKSUJ: Visit Queenstown and Milford sound while you are in the SI. The rest of your activies really depends on your purpose of visit (ie scenery or thrill se
29 QANTASFOREVER: How's Wellington for a weekend getaway? Decent sites? I'm a fan of anything political, also museums, theatre etc. Good place for that? No interest in
30 AerorobNZ: About as good as it gets for New Zealand. It has all the political stuff to investigate, a good arts and culture scene(due to the high number of Univ
31 QANTASFOREVER: I really can't comprehend the negativity towards Auckland that almost every single New Zealander perpetuates. It's really quite a lovely city. Yes, i
32 KiwiinOz: Usually, it's the same as what happens in Australia with Sydney. The rest of the country is not huge on Auckland because it tends to dominate the cou
33 QANTASforever: Yes, but surely these people must realise that in order for a third of the national population to live there, it must be a good city in which to live
34 KiwiinOz: As with the Sydney thing, there's a fair bit of truth in that. Probably not so much jealousy for the city itself, but jealousy for not being in the s
35 Jafa39: Its a weather thing as much as anything, the Maori name "Tamaki Makaurau" means "Place of a hundred lovers" and refers to how, even before the Pakeha
36 QANTASforever: True, Sydney lacks a distinct Pacific culture. That is one major difference. However modern Auckland is starting to look an awful awful lot like Sydn
37 Jafa39: The answer to both these lie in the generic structuring of port cities, now that sea trade is not the only means of getting goods to a country and wi
38 Melpax: You're not wrong there, even the traffic & shit roads of Sydney seem to have been replicated in Auckland. And both cities have a very similar layout.
39 QANTASforever: I agree with the point you have made, however I'm not entirely convinced that Auckland has not at all been influenced by Sydney in any way. It's noth
40 Bill142: Is that jealousy because Sydney has the room to be big and brash
41 Springbok747: Me thinks so too Anyways..thanks for all the suggestions guys. We (our group) decided to spend some time in AKL, then fly down to CHC, then drive dow
42 Zkpilot: Well as one of the 85% of New Zealanders that isn't Maori I find your comment rather insulting! Are you saying that the vast majority of us don't hav
43 Jafa39: That is because you are QFF and you are not genetically capable of agreeing with anyone Not saying there is no Pakeha culture but the Pakeha culture
44 QANTASFOREVER: My dear boy, contained within the comment you quoted was... I therefore disagree that I am disagreeable as I agreed with you earlier. QFF
45 Jafa39: Indeed, you have however disagreed as to whether agreement is par tof your genetic vocabulary, which, if i hadn't just driven 5.5 hours non-stop (due
46 QANTASforever: I disagree. I disagreed with the contention that I disagree, however if you agree to agree that disagreement is disagreeable I'm likely to agree. Wer
47 NZ107: For the time of the Americas Cup, yes. Once Alinghi came in 2003 and took it, the place became quite dead.. So many apartments have been put up aroun
48 EK20: Once in Wellington would it be better to hire a car (are they cheap?) or just to get the train?
49 VHVXB: Yes get yourself a car. You can see alot more if you have a rental
50 Jafa39: I worked for a PC-ridden, socialist London Council.......not much difference really DON'T FORGET THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
51 QANTASforever: Those things are legendary. They even scored a mention in an episode of "Yes, Minister"! QFF
52 NZ107: Oh yeah. That too! Where are you planning to travel to? NZ train services are quite poor. I wouldn't trust on them and hiring a car would be much eas
53 Springbok747: What about the Cadbury factory in DUD? Is it worth a visit...or just a waste of $45? No..haven't been there...but will go now
54 NZ107: Haha, never been there.. Can't help you on that one! Hope you enjoy it! Don't freeze
55 Alaskaqantas: As said above a drive to Dunedin would result in a lot of time in the car down some windy roads to arrive in party town. I didn't have time to read a
56 Jafa39: That all depends on how much you like Chocolate...for me DUD is heaven as it has a Beer tour and a Choc tour....bliss. If in DUD don't forget to go a