TurkishWings From Turkey, joined May 2006, 1460 posts, RR: 8 Posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4158 times:
As I mentioned in another thread before, I am planning a holiday right now... I would like it to be far and exotic and hassle (visa) free... One option is to go to Malaysia and Singapore... But I need your opinion on this.... I will obviously visit both KUL and SIN (plus Tioman most probably) but I always tend to think that SIN and KUL are very similar...Similar culture, food, architecture etc... Or am I wrong? How long should I ideally spend in each city... I don't need any museums, cultural heritage and such... Just shopping, walking among skyscrapers and a bit of clubbing. Oh and good food
P.S: Bear in mind that I do not have a huge budget
KiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2166 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4152 times:
Quoting TurkishWings (Thread starter): SIN and KUL are very similar...Similar culture, food, architecture etc... Or am I wrong? How long should I ideally spend in each city... I don't need any museums, cultural heritage and such... Just shopping, walking among skyscrapers and a bit of clubbing. Oh and good food
The cultures are similar in that they have similar ethnic mixes, (Chinese/Malay/Indian). Both are oustanding for food. In particular KL has shown a lot of imagination in restaurant design and offering lately. Try the street food in both cities as well. It is truly excellent. Shopping is probably better in KL these days. Clubbing they are both pretty good, although KL is probably a lot cheaper.
IL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2239 posts, RR: 42
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4082 times:
Malaysia is like Singapore was 50 years ago (what Singaporeans tell me ). KL is growing fast and modernising but does not really represent the rest of the country. The country is very beautiful nature-wise, but most of the infrastructure and buildings all look very dodgy. I assume that Malaysians don't really care about what their house looks like.
Driving along the East coast to the (very nice!) resort islands, you'll see very depressing looking towns and shack-like houses. But hey... The food is good, the place is cheap, the people are friendly, what more do you want as a holiday destination?
PA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2083 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4077 times:
KL has to be one of the most under-rated Asian capitals. It is a really beautiful city, that has still managed to retain at least some authenticity of its ethnic neighborhoods. Singapore on the other hand has done such a good job of completely sterilizing itself of any ethnic feel whatsoever. I would completely recommend KL over SIN. Hotel prices in KL are half what they are in SIN.
As far as a resource for youth hostels, I recommend the following site:
FlashFlyGuy From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4041 times:
I'd recommend KL. Lots to see and do cheaply. Stay in the Golden Triangle/Bukit Bintang area, where it's all happening with night clubs, restaurants and shopping malls (Bukit Bintang Plaza, Low Yat, Lot 10 and Starhill Plaza) and hawker stands in the back streets. Petronas Towers for KLCC Suria mall. You can get around on the monorail to other areas like Chinatown.
Remember too, that it is HEAPS cheaper to travel FROM KL to Singapore on the bus or train, which arrives and leaves, in Singapore. If you have to travel from Singapore, only buy a one way ticket and then a one way back when you're in KL.
CaliforniaMate From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3981 times:
2 days in singapore was plenty for me, its not that big of a place, and personally, didn't think there was that much worth seeing (the food was great though). i though KL was more enjoyable and cheaper to boot. plus, lots more to see in the surrounding areas. i would figure 3 days in KL. spend the rest of your time outside of the cities, malaysia is a gorgeous place.
ZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7233 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3964 times:
Quoting IL76 (Reply 6): Malaysia is like Singapore was 50 years ago (what Singaporeans tell me)
But they would wouldn't they KL is pretty up there and KL as a city is certainly no where near 50 years behind. As for
rest of Malaysia however as far as the 50 year thing is concerned,(since I last went there) is debatable.
Singapore is very small and only a few days is needed. Malaysia is where I would spend more of my time.
MAS777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2939 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3839 times:
Quoting Bill142 (Reply 5): Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 4):
Can anyone suggest any cheap places to stay like Hostels, and also...How is the train between SIN and KUL is it expensive?...How long's the ride....
You will probably have to get a bus or something across the causeway into Johor and take the train from there as I don't think there is a direct link.
There is a direct train from Singapore to KL - it travels at a snail's pace though. The last time i took it - it took nearly 7 hours and I don't think that has changed today. KTM (Malaysian Railway) operates the train but is limited by the single track narrow gauge type rails so prepare to spend the day or the night on the train. It is however not an uncomfortable ride and you do get to see some of the best scenery as it snakes through the villages, towns and countryside enroute.
There are buses that also ply the busy Singapore-KL route. Journey time is 5 hrs city to city.
The one I would recommend is the AireBus - they have a website at www.airebus.com.my
If you want to fly but don't want to fork out for the Shuttle (which has two different types of fares - an advance purchase or a standy-shuttle) and then First or Economy for each type... JAL also does a reasonable fare and flies once daily in the evenings. Alternatively - you can catch a coach from Singapore to Johor Bahru airport from where you can board an MAS or AirAsia flight to KUL for a fraction of the SIN-KL fare.
If time is on your side - i'd try the train or the AireBus.
I don't think KL and Singapore are that similar really - they seem to diverge more and more each day although continue to compliment each other... but then again i have been travelling to both for over 34 years!
KL certainly has a more 'Asian' culture (although the new KL Philharmonic Hall and its Orchestra is perhaps one of the best in Asia if not the world) and as a city KL is perhaps more engaging than Singapore.
If you want to see a modern westernised Asian city then Singapore would be your destination.
For food, bars, entertainment - again I think KL has a great feel and friendly ambience. Singapore is more business like and perhaps more sterile by nature.