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Mendocino County, CA Wants Pot Legalized.  
User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1709 times:

Nothing wrong with this idea. It would eliminate the black market and boost the local economy.
http://www.times-standard.com/local/ci_6164128

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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

The state of California voted to legalize marijuana back in 1996.
See prop 215.
The feds violated and underminded the will of the voters.



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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1702 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
The feds violated and underminded the will of the voters

The feds have completely undermined the way America is supposed to work.

What ever happened to state's rights?


User currently offlineRammstein From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1697 times:

Quoting Copaair737 (Thread starter):
Nothing wrong with this idea.

California Air Pollution Control Laws comes to mind.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
The feds violated and underminded the will of the voters.

Seriously, is there any hope to have a State where the pot is legalized?


User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1696 times:

Quoting Rammstein (Reply 3):

Seriously, is there any hope to have a State where the pot is legalized?

Humboldt County (CA), where I live, won't prosecute a grower with 50 or so plants for private use.


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1691 times:

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 4):
Humboldt County (CA), where I live, won't prosecute a grower with 50 or so plants for private use.

Same here in San Francisco.
Our D.A. will not prosecute for possession of marijuana. A cop would be wasting his time arresting someone for pot. He or she would be laughed at too by fellow officers. There are far more serious things for big city cops to concern themselves with.



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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3068 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1654 times:

Marijuana has been Alabama's #1 cash crop for most of my life, yet we've never collected a dime of state tax from it's sale.  Sad


Able to kill active threads stone dead with a single post!
User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1645 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
The state of California voted to legalize marijuana back in 1996.
See prop 215.
The feds violated and underminded the will of the voters.

 rotfl  We "violated" the "will" of the voters?  rotfl  I guess you haven't bothered to read the federal controlled substances act, under which marijuana remains illegal - California proposition 215 notwithstanding.


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1640 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):
I guess you haven't bothered to read the federal controlled substances act, under which marijuana remains illegal - California proposition 215 notwithstanding.

Screw that law!
Good thing that law isn't being enforced out here.



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):
I guess you haven't bothered to read the federal controlled substances act, under which marijuana remains illegal - California proposition 215 notwithstanding.

Screw that law!
Good thing that law isn't being enforced out here.

Ah, but it is!

One of the common myths perpetrated by the legalizing lobby is that DEA went after small time MJ users and dealers. That just isn't close to reality. DEA - before prop 215 and after - only targets large scale growers and distributors. Cases are being investigated and prosecuted as we speak.


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1596 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
A cop would be wasting his time arresting someone for pot

But yet authorities waste plenty of time with smokers and all the laws on the books about them.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1584 times:

Quoting Copaair737 (Thread starter):
Mendocino County, CA Wants Pot Legalized.

If it does become legal there, then I'm moving to Mendocino County.

Signed,
Sabena332

 stirthepot 


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1567 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 10):
But yet authorities waste plenty of time with smokers and all the laws on the books about them.

Where?
Not here.



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User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1539 times:

Just legalize it and tax it. Lord knows the government could use the cash.

piercey in CLE  Sad



Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

Quoting Piercey (Reply 13):
Just legalize it and tax it. Lord knows the government could use the cash.

 checkmark 



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User currently offlinePelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2531 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 11):

If it does become legal there, then I'm moving to Mendocino County.

Signed,
Sabena332

At least in the winter when the weather is shitty in Pot county, ahm the Netherlands...

Signed,
Sabena332



 Wink


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

Quoting Pelican (Reply 15):
At least in the winter when the weather is shitty in Pot county, ahm the Netherlands...

1. They have greenhouses in Holland where they are making the best stuff, year-around.
2. Why buy in Holland when you get stuff of almost the same quality next door?
3. When the weather is bad (i.e. December) I simply fly to Spain where I get finest stuff from Morocco!
4. Stop making this "Sabena332-weed" jokes! I smoke it (in a responsible way) and I stay to it, big deal?  Confused
5. I have nothing here tonight so all the posts about weed annoy me even more!  Wink

P.


User currently offlinePelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2531 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 16):
4. Stop making this "Sabena332-weed" jokes! I smoke it (in a responsible way) and I stay to it, big deal? Confused
No big deal at all. While haven't consumed it for years I see people doing all the time (being a university student )
Nonetheless it (posting cheap jokes) is too tempting. Also I've to say it was more aimed at the Netherlands were pot is legal for ages - so it's no big deal to legalise it, too - also I'm against it.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 16):
5. I have nothing here tonight so all the posts about weed annoy me even more!
Some beers could comfort you. I drink another red bull and go back to writing my thesis while the first birds already start to sing.

pelican

edit: for clarification

[Edited 2007-06-19 03:44:30]

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 16):

You were expecting less from the Peanut Gallery that also makes sheep jokes towards Gkirk?

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):
I guess you haven't bothered to read the federal controlled substances act, under which marijuana remains illegal - California proposition 215 notwithstanding.

Technically, it isn't illegal. You have to buy a stamp from the government in order to grow it legally. The catch is that the government never has issued such a stamp.

A few illegal drugs were made that way for racist reasons.

The downside of these draconian drug laws is that no real research can legally be done regarding these drugs. For all we know, there may be chemicals that are present in some of these drugs that have beneficial effects. One think to remember is that at one point, cocaine and heroin (along with other opiates) were sold over the counter or were prescribed by doctors.

The anti-marijuana propaganda being fed over the years is sorry and at times hysterical. And the "marijuana is a gateway drug" statement is really silly as well. I've only ever done two illegal drugs, weed and on one occasion, ecstasy. Pot didn't make me want to do any other drugs (although it was during my stoner phase that I did ecstasy, but I had been wanted to try it long before I even started to smoke pot.).

Marijuana is the most widely used illegal drug. In a number of states, it is the biggest cash crop. Think about the tax dollars the governments (state, federal, local) are missing out on because of the illegal status of marijuana. You could put a higher tax on it than tobacco and folks probably wouldn't be mad about it.


User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1476 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 18):
A few illegal drugs were made that way for racist reasons.

The downside of these draconian drug laws is that no real research can legally be done regarding these drugs. For all we know, there may be chemicals that are present in some of these drugs that have beneficial effects. One think to remember is that at one point, cocaine and heroin (along with other opiates) were sold over the counter or were prescribed by doctors.

You must have just watched the history of illegal drugs/addiction on History Channel this evening. It was an interesting show.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 19):

You must have just watched the history of illegal drugs/addiction on History Channel this evening. It was an interesting show.

Didn't know it was on again (History Channel seems to run that show about as often as the Travel Channel shows some of those Vegas programs). I've seen it on there several times in the past.


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 18):
I've only ever done two illegal drugs, weed and on one occasion, ecstasy.

Man that would have been a hoot to see you in Vegas high an Ecstasy!  wideeyed 

You are totally spot on with your post.  yes 


Cigarettes and alcohol is legal, yet not everyone drinks or smokes cigarettes. I first smoked pot when I was 14 years old and never ever had any desire to try anything else. My pot smoking days are in the past hadn't smoked since Easter of last year.

Sometimes I feel that 'drug test' (pot test) is a war on free-thinkers. Marijuana shows up in your system the longest, unlike cocaine which is a rich man's drug. Pot smokers (liberal and conservative) are more likely to challenge/question authority. The is bad for 'production' for a business. A cocaine user can follow the script and do there job and really fast, thus not really a threat to a corporate hierarchy.

I hope to live to see the day we can look back at how stupid our anti-marijuana law were.



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User currently offlinePelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2531 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 18):
You were expecting less from the Peanut Gallery that also makes sheep jokes towards Gkirk?

Please, show one post were I made a joke about Gkirk - sure it's tempting but I refrain from lowering myself so far. Yeah sure


pelican


User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1463 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
My pot smoking days are in the past hadn't smoked since Easter of last year.

Why did you quit?


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26499 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):
I guess you haven't bothered to read the federal controlled substances act, under which marijuana remains illegal

Hey, if you keep the marijuana out of interstate commerce, then the feds should have no say it in.



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25 Srbmod : Did it one time just to say I'd done it. That was over 7 years ago, and it's been about 6 years since the last time I ever smoked pot.
26 Post contains links CannibalZ3 : Hey everybody! I'm an intern at a lobbying organization in DC. I promise you these things are being noticed and people are taking them seriously. I've
27 Post contains links Halls120 : Wow. I guess you missed the Supreme Court decision that rejected the recent lame attempt to challenge the CSA on the grounds that it was an impermiss
28 Post contains images Superfly : Technically I haven't. However, all it does is make me giggle and eat a lot. At 255 lbs, eating a lot is the last thing I need to do. You don't have
29 DeltaAVL : You guys aren't even mentioning the downsides of legalization. First off, do we know for sure that the taxes made off of marijuana sales are going to
30 Copaair737 : Let's just ban everything taht could be considered "dangerous". Sound good? Everybody will be happy then. The Oversized Government can decide our ind
31 N1120A : No, i didn't miss it, I just think it was a bit arbitrary. If you can prove a process completely removed from interstate commerce, then there shouldn
32 Post contains images DeltaAVL : That isn't even relative to the argument. Marijuana is already banned, we're talking about UNbanning it. Also, most things that are "considered dange
33 Post contains images Piercey : umm.. Legalize, then slap on DUI, growing Weed without a permit, selling weed to minors, etc.. blood test? Hair Test? Yup, helping MS patients is a r
34 Copaair737 : Sure...but there are other activities that are "dangerous"...why not ban them too? Let's just make and or keep everthing that is fun illegal. That wa
35 Copaair737 : Is it really the government's duty to tell us what we can and can't do? I thought this was the home of the free.
36 AndesSMF : Good idea! Here are my suggestions: 1. Force people to wear helmets while riding motorcycles 2. Force people to wear seat belts in cars 3. Don't allo
37 Saxdiva : " target=_blank>www.leap.org. Might want to check that link. I'm not sure that Leadership Education for Asian Pacifics is quite on board with the pro-
38 TheCol : That's BS. We have the best weed! Signed, British Columbia After the crash. I doubt the cops could draw blood during a roadblock stop. Yes, because C
39 Post contains images Halls120 : I can see you didn't read the case decision. No surprise there. So, Mr. I don't pay attention to arbitrary Supreme Court decisions, just how is any m
40 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Except it violates Federal Law. Nope, they just didn't allow State Law to over ride Federal Law. Horse Hockey Like much more important things to do,
41 767Lover : Why does an anti-marijuana stance elicit a knee-jerk response that it is religious fanaticism? I don't see anyone saying that it is "puritanical" to
42 Post contains images Superfly : Aw come on man! I'll take you out for drinks and make you forget about our city gov't doing things such as dis the military at every turn, kick recru
43 Post contains links 767Lover : There's plenty of non-U.S. research and position that cannabis is harmful. Since people on A.net LOVE data from the United Nations, consider this: If
44 Post contains images DeltaAVL : ...Which can take hours to identify. Much harder than simply doing the alcohol test at a common roadblock or pullover. Right, but these things are al
45 Post contains images Galapagapop : You make it seem as if Pot is the only potentially legal thing that can be harmful. The sun is harmful long term, but do we all live in caves? Alcoho
46 767Lover : All I'm saying is that the United Nations and member nations are not in favor of legalizing it (including the Netherlands...where pot is not actually
47 767Lover : I do not have the "edit" button even though I just posted the above. I would like to revise the above post to say All I'm saying is that the United Na
48 Sabena332 : The cops in Germany (especialy here in North Rhine-Westphalia) have some quick-test. They simply sweep a test strip over your hand and after approx.
49 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Speaking of listening to the Gov't . . . Marijuana isn't the lame crap it used to be my friend . . . no such thing as a Soft Drug anymore. . . . MJs
50 Copaair737 : How much would the US government save in Jail costs if Maryjane was legalized? Or if many of the softer drugs were legalized (Meth, Crack, etc....shou
51 Halls120 : Technically, it IS illegal. You've bought into the claptrap of the old Marijuana tax act of 1936. While the current definition of marijuana is borrow
52 Galapagapop : Like the Opium dens that the British set up where the Chinese would pay what little they had to get their "final" fix so to speak? A little extreme a
53 MD11Engineer : With the current system, a pot user has to go to an illegal supplier (who is in most cases connected to organised crime) to buy it. This guy also sel
54 767Lover : Manufacture is still illegal, and sale is limited. The coffee shop can only keep 500g on the premises which is not that much in the retail environmen
55 ANCFlyer : Quite probably true. Like any "product" it's been refined over the years. When I was in High School - and I'm not fessing up what year that was - the
56 MD11Engineer : Well, back in my pot smoking days (mid 1980s to mid 1990s) I never got much out of a joint (partially because I'm basically a non smoker. I can not i
57 Superfly : Very smart move on your part and is the usual pattern of most that smoked pot. No the anti-pot laws are a joke and so are those that waste there time
58 ANCFlyer : Pardon the pun, but "Alaskan Dope smokes Humboldt County". See the Humboldt stuff is grown outdoors, too many impurities. Alaska's MAt Thunderfuck .
59 Post contains images Superfly : Back during my heavy pot smoking days, I would have had to look in to this and do some 'research'. So what you are saying is that the Alaskan stuff g
60 Post contains images Galapagapop : That is because it's unregulated(no duh ), my point is if it were legalized, it can be properly regulated in growing policies to the softer variety,
61 Post contains images ANCFlyer : So I've heard . . . . I have, unfortunately, stood a little too close to the 'burn barrel'. Seriously, when burning the stuff it's almost impossible
62 Post contains images Superfly : It's OK Pepper. I wont judge you or narc on you if you do indulge on mother nature. Exactly.
63 Post contains links 767Lover : I think you misunderstood me. I was saying that the Dutch laws force the coffee shop owner to constantly be worried about being busted for getting a
64 Seb146 : So, someplace in the United States wants to legalize marijuana. I say: Let them. Have you ever dealt with (no pun intended) a pot head vs. a meth head
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